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lol, thats like assuming a guy who is doing some commentating after his team is knocked out of the playoffs is aiming to retire and join Barkley on TNT.
Players watch the games and commentate all the time.
Players watch the games and commentate all the time.
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I wouldn't read too much of Dame doing commentary but all this Dame talk reminds me of the
last days of Clyde in Portland.
Fortunately Portland has Dame signed for the next three seasons with a PO in 2026 so they are
not under the gun like they were with Clyde. Hopefully they will get something worthwhile out
of a Dame trade
last days of Clyde in Portland.
Fortunately Portland has Dame signed for the next three seasons with a PO in 2026 so they are
not under the gun like they were with Clyde. Hopefully they will get something worthwhile out
of a Dame trade
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Agreed. I have to believe there's a mutual understanding and as far as I know good relationship between Cronin and Dame. Only they know, but I think Cronin is operating a with or without approach when it comes to building this roster for next year. The understanding being between the two that Dame is loved and can stay as long as he likes, or he can at any time decide to explore greener pastures (potentially).
In a nutshell, it's Dame's choice, when and if ever. But I think Cronin will continue to build around Simons and Sharpe, creating a new core for the future, regardless of what Dame decides.
May 16th: Sweepstakes
Not much after that until the Finals are over, then the trade talk will really heat up. It's going to be slightly stressful I'm afraid (9 more days), cause it should be an exciting summer for us Blazer fans. Potentially, BANANAS. I'm confident though, we'll see (sizable) improvement with the roster, I just have no idea how he'll do it.
In a nutshell, it's Dame's choice, when and if ever. But I think Cronin will continue to build around Simons and Sharpe, creating a new core for the future, regardless of what Dame decides.
May 16th: Sweepstakes
Not much after that until the Finals are over, then the trade talk will really heat up. It's going to be slightly stressful I'm afraid (9 more days), cause it should be an exciting summer for us Blazer fans. Potentially, BANANAS. I'm confident though, we'll see (sizable) improvement with the roster, I just have no idea how he'll do it.Re: Lillard: I don't want to be a part of a rebuild.
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Norm2953 wrote:I wouldn't read too much of Dame doing commentary but all this Dame talk reminds me of the
last days of Clyde in Portland.
No. Dame is forcing their hand, but it's either trade him or do something. He's earned that. It's understandable that bringing in Jerami Grant being the biggest non-draft move in what? 7+ years? Isn't acceptable. But the Blazers have a high lotto pick, #23, Sharpe, Simons, and some other young talent that they can trade.
Think of it more as a girl hitting 30 that you've been dating for a decade. At some point, you either propose or move on. It isn't fair to either of you to have one foot out the door.
Because love can burn like a cigarette.
And leave you left with nothing.
Leave you left with nothing.
And leave you left with nothing.
Leave you left with nothing.
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GTR11 wrote:BlazersBroncos wrote:That deal could be nice for BRK if they owned their own future FRPs. I dont see a reason to move off Bridges to go young and quasi-tank when your future is controlled by another team.
I would be shocked if Mikal is traded for anything less than #2 (IE Scoot) - not saying #1 b/c no team is moving Vic for Mikal.
That's the only way you guys can get Bridges, and on the low I cheer for it to happen. We will get some more assets along and will trade with Magic/Mavs to get Hendricks too.
Marks collecting assets and looking for select players who in their mid 20's. He did it from day one once he got hired, he was doing it past summer during KD trade request. Brown, Ingram and Barnes were constent talk. We ended up with Bridges and CamJ. See the pattern, that's how Marks roll.
Marks has blank check and couple years to work with. He pretty much said there will be no rush decisions made. So it's more up to you guys how Dame situation going to end up. Me, you can see on our board what I think about Dame and his contract. With this new CBA kicking in, I'm not willing to give y'all jack sh** but couple expirings in Din and Joe. More interested getting 2nd overall ( Scoot ) than sending anything out for 33 year old.
This is a dumb conversation. Dame makes zero sense on the current iteration of the Nets. Maybe when they had Durant/Harden, but not now. And the Nets wouldn't pay what better fitting teams would. Coming into a thread to say that your team would take Dame, but not if you had to give up anything of value is... come on. 28 other teams would take on Dame if they didn't have to give up anything of value. It's a waste of time, and borderline non-productive troll bait.
Because love can burn like a cigarette.
And leave you left with nothing.
Leave you left with nothing.
And leave you left with nothing.
Leave you left with nothing.
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JasonStern wrote:GTR11 wrote:BlazersBroncos wrote:That deal could be nice for BRK if they owned their own future FRPs. I dont see a reason to move off Bridges to go young and quasi-tank when your future is controlled by another team.
I would be shocked if Mikal is traded for anything less than #2 (IE Scoot) - not saying #1 b/c no team is moving Vic for Mikal.
That's the only way you guys can get Bridges, and on the low I cheer for it to happen. We will get some more assets along and will trade with Magic/Mavs to get Hendricks too.
Marks collecting assets and looking for select players who in their mid 20's. He did it from day one once he got hired, he was doing it past summer during KD trade request. Brown, Ingram and Barnes were constent talk. We ended up with Bridges and CamJ. See the pattern, that's how Marks roll.
Marks has blank check and couple years to work with. He pretty much said there will be no rush decisions made. So it's more up to you guys how Dame situation going to end up. Me, you can see on our board what I think about Dame and his contract. With this new CBA kicking in, I'm not willing to give y'all jack sh** but couple expirings in Din and Joe. More interested getting 2nd overall ( Scoot ) than sending anything out for 33 year old.
This is a dumb conversation. Dame makes zero sense on the current iteration of the Nets. Maybe when they had Durant/Harden, but not now. And the Nets wouldn't pay what better fitting teams would. Coming into a thread to say that your team would take Dame, but not if you had to give up anything of value is... come on. 28 other teams would take on Dame if they didn't have to give up anything of value. It's a waste of time, and borderline non-productive troll bait.
I disagree. They still want a star to compete with the Knicks. Dame will bring fans to the arena and make them competitive, that’s more than enough. Also rights a wrong of the past… Nets trading the pick that became Dame. I don’t think the nets are a in a ring or bust mode, they just want to be relevant… it’s also a new era of NBA with a lot more to parity.
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DusterBuster wrote:JasonStern wrote:28 other teams would take on Dame if they didn't have to give up anything of value.
I disagree.
Okay. Then let's keep Dame. Problem solved.
Because love can burn like a cigarette.
And leave you left with nothing.
Leave you left with nothing.
And leave you left with nothing.
Leave you left with nothing.
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A trade sending Dame to Brooklyn to pair with Bridges defies common sense.
I get that there’s no reason for them to tank as they don’t have their own pick in 24 and 26 and get the worse of 2 pick swaps with Houston in 25 and 27. So I’m doing a “thought exercise” on the Nets (having to take a day off waiting on a delivery!).
BUT in 25, they have the PHX pick.
In 27, they have the worse of the Houston swap to go with 2 picks — the 76ers and the Suns
In 28, they have the best of theirs and PHX in a pick swap
In 29, they have 3 picks — their own, PHX, DAL
After this summer — 2024 to 2029 1st rounders — 6 drafts — 0, 2, 0, 3, 1, 3
In 2 years, Simmons and his $37.9 and $40.3 million is gone.
Curry is UFA this year (goner again) and Cam Johnson is RFA … pay up.
In 2024, 6 rotation players are UFA — Dinwiddie (30), Joe Harris (will be 32), Claxton (24), Patty Mills (will be 35), Royce O’Neale (will be 30)($9.5 million this year or $2.5 buy-out)(for just over $66 million).
I get it. The Nets went for it! All in. If they’re patient with Bridges (will be 27), Johnson (27), Finney-Smith (30), Claxton (24) … well, they’ll be okay depending on what they do with caproom in the summers of 2024 and 2025. Bridges is UFA at age 30 in the summer of 2026 when they have 3 first rounders … where they COULD already have their forwards and center with Cam and Nic.
A Brooklyn trade I could talk myself into???
Dame + Nurkic = Simmons (filler) + Nic Claxton + Cameron Johnson (sign and trade) + the best pick of what they’ll have in 2025, 2027, and 2029.
NEXT SEASON: Ant (24), Shaedon (20), Cam (27), Jerami (29), Nic (24) PLUS the HIGH lottery pick, pay off Chicago (with 23 or the 2nd rounders), and extra picks in 3 of the next 6 years (maybe get another in 2028).
SORRY, best I could do on this idea. Brooklyn would have 4 one year contracts for trades this summer to go with Dame, Bridges, Finney-Smith, Nurkic. (Dinwiddie, Harris, O’Neale, Mills as tradeable)
I get that there’s no reason for them to tank as they don’t have their own pick in 24 and 26 and get the worse of 2 pick swaps with Houston in 25 and 27. So I’m doing a “thought exercise” on the Nets (having to take a day off waiting on a delivery!).
BUT in 25, they have the PHX pick.
In 27, they have the worse of the Houston swap to go with 2 picks — the 76ers and the Suns
In 28, they have the best of theirs and PHX in a pick swap
In 29, they have 3 picks — their own, PHX, DAL
After this summer — 2024 to 2029 1st rounders — 6 drafts — 0, 2, 0, 3, 1, 3
In 2 years, Simmons and his $37.9 and $40.3 million is gone.
Curry is UFA this year (goner again) and Cam Johnson is RFA … pay up.
In 2024, 6 rotation players are UFA — Dinwiddie (30), Joe Harris (will be 32), Claxton (24), Patty Mills (will be 35), Royce O’Neale (will be 30)($9.5 million this year or $2.5 buy-out)(for just over $66 million).
I get it. The Nets went for it! All in. If they’re patient with Bridges (will be 27), Johnson (27), Finney-Smith (30), Claxton (24) … well, they’ll be okay depending on what they do with caproom in the summers of 2024 and 2025. Bridges is UFA at age 30 in the summer of 2026 when they have 3 first rounders … where they COULD already have their forwards and center with Cam and Nic.
A Brooklyn trade I could talk myself into???
Dame + Nurkic = Simmons (filler) + Nic Claxton + Cameron Johnson (sign and trade) + the best pick of what they’ll have in 2025, 2027, and 2029.
NEXT SEASON: Ant (24), Shaedon (20), Cam (27), Jerami (29), Nic (24) PLUS the HIGH lottery pick, pay off Chicago (with 23 or the 2nd rounders), and extra picks in 3 of the next 6 years (maybe get another in 2028).
SORRY, best I could do on this idea. Brooklyn would have 4 one year contracts for trades this summer to go with Dame, Bridges, Finney-Smith, Nurkic. (Dinwiddie, Harris, O’Neale, Mills as tradeable)
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HoopsFanAZ wrote:A trade sending Dame to Brooklyn to pair with Bridges defies common sense.
I get that there’s no reason for them to tank as they don’t have their own pick in 24 and 26 and get the worse of 2 pick swaps with Houston in 25 and 27. So I’m doing a “thought exercise” on the Nets (having to take a day off waiting on a delivery!).
BUT in 25, they have the PHX pick.
In 27, they have the worse of the Houston swap to go with 2 picks — the 76ers and the Suns
In 28, they have the best of theirs and PHX in a pick swap
In 29, they have 3 picks — their own, PHX, DAL
After this summer — 2024 to 2029 1st rounders — 6 drafts — 0, 2, 0, 3, 1, 3
In 2 years, Simmons and his $37.9 and $40.3 million is gone.
Curry is UFA this year (goner again) and Cam Johnson is RFA … pay up.
In 2024, 6 rotation players are UFA — Dinwiddie (30), Joe Harris (will be 32), Claxton (24), Patty Mills (will be 35), Royce O’Neale (will be 30)($9.5 million this year or $2.5 buy-out)(for just over $66 million).
I get it. The Nets went for it! All in. If they’re patient with Bridges (will be 27), Johnson (27), Finney-Smith (30), Claxton (24) … well, they’ll be okay depending on what they do with caproom in the summers of 2024 and 2025. Bridges is UFA at age 30 in the summer of 2026 when they have 3 first rounders … where they COULD already have their forwards and center with Cam and Nic.
A Brooklyn trade I could talk myself into???
Dame + Nurkic = Simmons (filler) + Nic Claxton + Cameron Johnson (sign and trade) + the best pick of what they’ll have in 2025, 2027, and 2029.
NEXT SEASON: Ant (24), Shaedon (20), Cam (27), Jerami (29), Nic (24) PLUS the HIGH lottery pick, pay off Chicago (with 23 or the 2nd rounders), and extra picks in 3 of the next 6 years (maybe get another in 2028).
SORRY, best I could do on this idea. Brooklyn would have 4 one year contracts for trades this summer to go with Dame, Bridges, Finney-Smith, Nurkic. (Dinwiddie, Harris, O’Neale, Mills as tradeable)
maybe switch jerami with simmons ?
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JasonStern wrote:DusterBuster wrote:JasonStern wrote:28 other teams would take on Dame if they didn't have to give up anything of value.
I disagree.
Okay. Then let's keep Dame. Problem solved.
Done and done.
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I like what I see in the future potential of this team when I look at possible BKN moves, and my thinking has always taken BKN's future into account, and trying to see things from all perspectives. With that said, I also get excited about a resulting roster from the trade above, a similar idea to mine.
What doesn't excite me, is the idea of mortgaging any assetts like Simons, Sharpe or Draft capital, to build around Dame. I'm really just hoping that it's finally that time... when Dame and Cronin decide to mutually part ways, in a way that ends up being great for all parties involved. Those are the best trades afterall.
I don't think we really need Cam in the deal and would rather have an additional FRP, but I'll take him with the thinking that Cronin really likes him(hypothetical). I would love if we could also bring Pritchard home, which shouldn't be too difficult. Then all we need to do is win the Lottery Sweepstakes and we'll have this as next year's roster with draft capital for the future (It could happen):
Simons / Pritchard / Keon
Sharpe / Thybulle
Grant / Little / Knox
Simmons / Cam / Watford
Wemby / Claxton / Eubanks / Walker
Holy Crap, that would be amazing and soo fun to watch
What doesn't excite me, is the idea of mortgaging any assetts like Simons, Sharpe or Draft capital, to build around Dame. I'm really just hoping that it's finally that time... when Dame and Cronin decide to mutually part ways, in a way that ends up being great for all parties involved. Those are the best trades afterall.
I don't think we really need Cam in the deal and would rather have an additional FRP, but I'll take him with the thinking that Cronin really likes him(hypothetical). I would love if we could also bring Pritchard home, which shouldn't be too difficult. Then all we need to do is win the Lottery Sweepstakes and we'll have this as next year's roster with draft capital for the future (It could happen):
Simons / Pritchard / Keon
Sharpe / Thybulle
Grant / Little / Knox
Simmons / Cam / Watford
Wemby / Claxton / Eubanks / Walker
Holy Crap, that would be amazing and soo fun to watch

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Dame + Nurkic = Simmons (filler) + Nic Claxton + Cameron Johnson (sign and trade) + the best pick of what they’ll have in 2025, 2027, and 2029.
I think working Cam into it would be pretty difficult.
I like the idea of getting DAL involved - something like -
PDX OUT - Lillard, Nurkic
PDX IN - Simmons, Bertans, McGee, #10, #21, 2025 PHX FRP UNP, 2027 PHX FRP UNP, 2029 PHX FRP UNP, 2029 DAL FRP UNP, maybe some swaps
BRK OUT - Simmons, DFS, #21, #22, 2025 PHX FRP UNP, 2027 PHX FRP UNP, 2029 PHX FRP UNP, 2029 DAL FRP UNP, maybe some swaps
BRK IN - Lillard
DAL OUT - Bertans, McGee, #10
DAL IN - Nurkic, DFS, #22
I think that is close to Dame's value. And honestly, I would prefer to get as many unprotected FRP's over Claxton - who is nice and young but really only useful on a team with talent. If we trade Dame, I really hope we bottom out for like 2 years (Similar to what OKC just did).
See if we can get a big TPE and a few SRP in a Jerami S&T - move #23 to CHI for our FRP back - give Simons a year to see if his poor playmaking is offset by Ben (If Ben even plays) - this should be a nice tank squad albeit with legit worries re leadership short and long term (Dont see Simons ever getting that role, Sharpe so low key, Amen a kid, Ben a baby and who knows w/ Hendricks) -
G - Anfernee Simons / Amen Thompson (#5) / Keon Johnson
G - Shadeon Sharpe / Anfernee Simons
F - Ben Simmons / Nas Little
F - Taylor Hendricks (#10) / Jabari Walker JR
C - Drew Eubanks / Derek Lively (#21)
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2025 PHX FRP UNP
2027 PHX FRP UNP
2029 PHX FRP UNP
2029 DAL FRP UNP
Swaps?
Would be down to move Simons as well though for more future picks.
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No more tiny one way chuckers that can’t play pg.
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JRoy wrote:No more tiny one way chuckers that can’t play pg.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
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JRoy wrote:No more tiny one way chuckers that can’t play pg.
You and me both, kid.
If Simons is running the offense full time next season, the Blazers are in for a world of hurt…I don’t care who they add to the roster.
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What would happen if Portland ended up at 2, the obvious BPA is Scoot?
What if they found out Scoot is another Suggs and not really the answer at PG?
Interesting question that I just posted to Vege on the trade board for I just wonder if the
NBA will send Victor to the HOF coach in SA (Pop). All the teams remaining would have to
decide where Scoot, Thompson twins, Miller, Black and in Portland's case Walker, fits on
their draft boards.
This is a draft with one great prospect in Victor and a lot of guys who will not be star players
in the league, but will be solid nevertheless. I still would be happy if we can get another
Jeremy Sochan out of this draft. If I had my way, I'd offer Portland's lottery pick (if its not in
top 3) to SA for Sochan.
What if they found out Scoot is another Suggs and not really the answer at PG?
Interesting question that I just posted to Vege on the trade board for I just wonder if the
NBA will send Victor to the HOF coach in SA (Pop). All the teams remaining would have to
decide where Scoot, Thompson twins, Miller, Black and in Portland's case Walker, fits on
their draft boards.
This is a draft with one great prospect in Victor and a lot of guys who will not be star players
in the league, but will be solid nevertheless. I still would be happy if we can get another
Jeremy Sochan out of this draft. If I had my way, I'd offer Portland's lottery pick (if its not in
top 3) to SA for Sochan.
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JasonStern wrote:GTR11 wrote:BlazersBroncos wrote:That deal could be nice for BRK if they owned their own future FRPs. I dont see a reason to move off Bridges to go young and quasi-tank when your future is controlled by another team.
I would be shocked if Mikal is traded for anything less than #2 (IE Scoot) - not saying #1 b/c no team is moving Vic for Mikal.
That's the only way you guys can get Bridges, and on the low I cheer for it to happen. We will get some more assets along and will trade with Magic/Mavs to get Hendricks too.
Marks collecting assets and looking for select players who in their mid 20's. He did it from day one once he got hired, he was doing it past summer during KD trade request. Brown, Ingram and Barnes were constent talk. We ended up with Bridges and CamJ. See the pattern, that's how Marks roll.
Marks has blank check and couple years to work with. He pretty much said there will be no rush decisions made. So it's more up to you guys how Dame situation going to end up. Me, you can see on our board what I think about Dame and his contract. With this new CBA kicking in, I'm not willing to give y'all jack sh** but couple expirings in Din and Joe. More interested getting 2nd overall ( Scoot ) than sending anything out for 33 year old.
This is a dumb conversation. Dame makes zero sense on the current iteration of the Nets. Maybe when they had Durant/Harden, but not now. And the Nets wouldn't pay what better fitting teams would. Coming into a thread to say that your team would take Dame, but not if you had to give up anything of value is... come on. 28 other teams would take on Dame if they didn't have to give up anything of value. It's a waste of time, and borderline non-productive troll bait.
1. Exactly what I said on a Nets board. Also let me refresh memory or inform some who don't know. After KD and Harden went on video chat with Tsai to force Marks make a trade for Harden and than Harden going directly to Tsai to force his way out ( as been reported and confirmed ), Joe Tsai took a step back since. Why you ask, because we ended up with Ben Simmons.
2. Good, let's see what they'll give up for Dame knowing how new CBA looks like. We in NYC, we will get players Marks want. We also got 4th most assets around the league, come see us if you get to have 2nd overall pick. Until than, bye
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No one wants to trade Dame to Brooklyn, *********** outta here.

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Case2012 wrote:No one wants to trade Dame to Brooklyn, *********** outta here.
I question any superstar wanting to play in Brooklyn. This is a team that has had three different star players demand to be traded from there in the last 18 months.
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JasonStern wrote:DusterBuster wrote:JasonStern wrote:28 other teams would take on Dame if they didn't have to give up anything of value.
I disagree.
Okay. Then let's keep Dame. Problem solved.
How so? Another treadmill season?
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