Rumors Surfacing of Houston, Portland, NYK Trade

[Brandon-Clyde]

If Blazers get Love then CJ must be going to Cavs. No way Cleveland trade Irving and Love for Melo and some scraps. Also Knicks must add some real value for Irving/Melo swap. Overall this rumor smells like BS.

CJ value>>Love value

And Love >>> other dross on Blazers roster. Portland would have to get some other incentives to cover value difference between CJ and Love.

And what does Cleveland have that they would be willing to give up that would cover the value difference that Portland would want? I'll give you a hint

NOTHING

[NotPhilJackson]

Melo to HOU
Anderson. Long & 1st to POR
Harkless, Vonleh, Davis, Onuaku & fillers to NYK

[Fitz303]

Melo to HOU
Anderson. Long & 1st to POR
Harkless, Vonleh, Davis, Onuaku & fillers to NYK

I just can't see any way that Anderson is traded to Portland without Turner and Leonard going out. Olshey has made some questionable trades, but he's not about to turn 3 good contracts into 1 bad contract just for a 1st rd pick

[NotPhilJackson]

Melo to HOU
Anderson. Long & 1st to POR
Harkless, Vonleh, Davis, Onuaku & fillers to NYK

I just can't see any way that Anderson is traded to Portland without Turner and Leonard going out. Olshey has made some questionable trades, but he's not about to turn 3 good contracts into 1 bad contract just for a 1st rd pick

Aside from POR being one of the few destinations that could actually USE Anderson - I don't see any other reason for POR being involved in these trade rumors then. The entire reason is because Knicks don't want to take back bad contracts. Maybe we take Crabbe of your hands and WE get the 1st.

[Wizenheimer]

CJ value>>Love value

And Love >>> other dross on Blazers roster. Portland would have to get some other incentives to cover value difference between CJ and Love.

Thankfully that won't matter, as CJ will not be traded anywhere

It's still looking like it's going to be to Houston. My hope is that Portland's hardball stance has made Houston change it's offer of Anderson, to Gordon/Ariza. We'll see...

if it comes to pass that somehow, Olshey sends out Harkless in a trade that sends Melo to Houston, I think the Blazers do need Ariza coming to Portland. I'd be nauseous with Turner being the starting SF all season. I'm almost to the point I'd rather see Turner traded then Leonard, and I really want Leonard gone

[Brandon-Clyde]

Melo to HOU
Anderson. Long & 1st to POR
Harkless, Vonleh, Davis, Onuaku & fillers to NYK

I just can't see any way that Anderson is traded to Portland without Turner and Leonard going out. Olshey has made some questionable trades, but he's not about to turn 3 good contracts into 1 bad contract just for a 1st rd pick

Aside from POR being one of the few destinations that could actually USE Anderson - I don't see any other reason for POR being involved in these trade rumors then. The entire reason is because Knicks don't want to take back bad contracts. Maybe we take Crabbe of your hands and WE get the 1st.

Crabbe has more value than Anderson at this point. NY gets the positive asset of Harkless. If Crabbe(or Turner) goes to NY then Portland still gets the first for taking on Anderson who earns more than Turner or Crabbe if Crabbe were to stay in Portland. Crabbe and Turner are overpaid but are still useful players

[BlazersBroncos]

I am so scared of any deal w/ HOU and NYK based around Ryno. To me, he is on the same tier as Evan Turner. I would deal Turner for Ryno straight up because I am a sucker for 3PT shooting, but that's about it. I literally would keep Crabbe over Ryno. And the idea of Harkless and Myers for Ryno makes me sick.

I don't see how any deal ends up going well for Portland, so lets hope one doesn't go down. The players on the table just don't make sense.

[Pattycakes]

I am so scared of any deal w/ HOU and NYK based around Ryno. To me, he is on the same tier as Evan Turner. I would deal Turner for Ryno straight up because I am a sucker for 3PT shooting, but that's about it. I literally would keep Crabbe over Ryno. And the idea of Harkless and Myers for Ryno makes me sick.

I don't see how any deal ends up going well for Portland, so lets hope one doesn't go down. The players on the table just don't make sense.

I'm sorry, but I don't at all agree with the notion of Turner and Anderson being on the same tier. Based on their nba careers (to date), one of those guys is a clear tier above the other. Evan Turner is mediocre at almost everything. Anderson has a very strong skill he is an absolute gunner at. 6 3's from your power forward every 6-8 games is huge for a team that needs more than ever to take scoring relief off it's backcourt.

[JasonStern]

I don't at all agree with the notion of Turner and Anderson being on the same tier. Based on their nba careers (to date), one of those guys is a clear tier above the other. Evan Turner is mediocre at almost everything. Anderson has a very strong skill he is an absolute gunner at. 6 3's from your power forward every 6-8 games is huge for a team that needs more than ever to take scoring relief off it's backcourt.

you left out half of the game (defense).

[BlazersBroncos]

I'm sorry, but I don't at all agree with the notion of Turner and Anderson being on the same tier. Based on their nba careers (to date), one of those guys is a clear tier above the other. Evan Turner is mediocre at almost everything. Anderson has a very strong skill he is an absolute gunner at. 6 3's from your power forward every 6-8 games is huge for a team that needs more than ever to take scoring relief off it's backcourt.

I mostly meant the same tier in regards to an overpaid glorified 6th man. Ryno as a starter is a flawed starter. He cant play a lick of defense and doesn't do much outside camp and drain 3's, which I admit is an excellent singular trait to have.

I would deal Turner and Vonleh for Ryno, and probably would do Crabbe straight up for Ryno, but I don't even think about Harkless for Ryno unless we get more back.

Melo to HOU
Turner, Vonleh, Davis, Hou R1, Hou R2 to NYK
Ryno to PDX

That's about the only decent scenario I can envision.

[Soulyss]

Melo to HOU
Anderson. Long & 1st to POR
Harkless, Vonleh, Davis, Onuaku & fillers to NYK

I just can't see any way that Anderson is traded to Portland without Turner and Leonard going out. Olshey has made some questionable trades, but he's not about to turn 3 good contracts into 1 bad contract just for a 1st rd pick

Aside from POR being one of the few destinations that could actually USE Anderson - I don't see any other reason for POR being involved in these trade rumors then. The entire reason is because Knicks don't want to take back bad contracts. Maybe we take Crabbe of your hands and WE get the 1st.

Olshey has gone on record saying he will not help bring Melo to Houston... I can't imagine if he changes his mind that he will eat Anderson's contract as well.

[NotPhilJackson]

I just can't see any way that Anderson is traded to Portland without Turner and Leonard going out. Olshey has made some questionable trades, but he's not about to turn 3 good contracts into 1 bad contract just for a 1st rd pick

Aside from POR being one of the few destinations that could actually USE Anderson - I don't see any other reason for POR being involved in these trade rumors then. The entire reason is because Knicks don't want to take back bad contracts. Maybe we take Crabbe of your hands and WE get the 1st.

Olshey has gone on record saying he will not help bring Melo to Houston... I can't imagine if he changes his mind that he will eat Anderson's contract as well.

Yeah but he might swap Turner out for Anderson since Anderson is a better fit and will probably contribute a good amount more. There are a lot of rumors going around today that POR is back in the trade and not getting Melo

[dive135]

I'm sorry, but I don't at all agree with the notion of Turner and Anderson being on the same tier. Based on their nba careers (to date), one of those guys is a clear tier above the other. Evan Turner is mediocre at almost everything. Anderson has a very strong skill he is an absolute gunner at. 6 3's from your power forward every 6-8 games is huge for a team that needs more than ever to take scoring relief off it's backcourt.

I mostly meant the same tier in regards to an overpaid glorified 6th man. Ryno as a starter is a flawed starter. He cant play a lick of defense and doesn't do much outside camp and drain 3's, which I admit is an excellent singular trait to have.

I would deal Turner and Vonleh for Ryno, and probably would do Crabbe straight up for Ryno, but I don't even think about Harkless for Ryno unless we get more back.

Melo to HOU
Turner, Vonleh, Davis, Hou R1, Hou R2 to NYK
Ryno to PDX

That's about the only decent scenario I can envision.

Since I see Anderson as even more negative than Turner since he is more expensive, with Davis/Voneh being neutral/positive value, Portland would need more coming back. There is zero reason to help Houston and New York out, especially since the only real savings is Davis who portland could probably dump for a late 2nd and take nothing back if they wanted to clear that. Drop Anderson from the trade and send Portland Ariza and Gordon, maybe we sit at the table then.

[monopoman]

I can't envision any trade where Portland ends up with more salary after all said and done. Unless that salary is going to be an expiring contract in a year or two.

NY has multiple reasons to take on a guy like Crabbe or even Turner with the Melo trade I am not sure if they are in "win now" mode. Since it seems pretty odd to trade one of their key pieces and then attempt to win now. It would be like Portland trading Lillard and then acting like its championship time.

I think any trade we are involved in only makes sense from a Portland standpoint if we can end up with less salary at the end of it or a solid player on a cheap contract.

[deanwoof]

if we end up with Ryan Anderson, what's the point of trading Crabbe, besides a few inches?

Aren't they pretty much the same player? can't guard anybody on defense, and they both are strictly three point shooters with an occasional great rebounding game, or a few drives to the basket.

[Goldbum]

I really didn't buy into the Mike Rice tweet...but combine that with this deal..."Hold onto your shorts!"

[Wizenheimer]

I really didn't buy into the Mike Rice tweet...but combine that with this deal..."Hold onto your shorts!"

there are two 'signs'...the Crabbe trade and the delay of Connaughton's guarantee date.

they could be mirages and it was just a case of Portland wanting to get this deal done, then having the option of cutting Connaughton to drop under the tax threshold....but then, who plays backup SG?

or it could mean another trade is in the works. I sure hope it ain't for Anderson

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[deanwoof]

I really didn't buy into the Mike Rice tweet...but combine that with this deal..."Hold onto your shorts!"

there are two 'signs'...the Crabbe trade and the delay of Connaughton's guarantee date.

they could be mirages and it was just a case of Portland wanting to get this deal done, then having the option of cutting Connaughton to drop under the tax threshold....but then, who plays backup SG?

or it could mean another trade is in the works. I sure hope it ain't for Anderson

i'd imagine Turner would be the full-time backup SG, occasionally as the SF in the lineup.

now to do something about the glut of front court players .. and they want to add Anderson to the mix?
Nurkic, Davis, Meyers
Vonleh, Biggie, Collins
Harkless, Aminu, Layman, Turnerish