2023 NBA Draft (tonight's discussion on pg 58)

[GEE]

RIGGED

The Spurs getting #1 feels about right, considering it's been how long since their last dynasty? Plus I had to watch Roy up there, who I doubt gives two **** about this franchise... sitting right next to Mark Williams, who I've been wanting in a Blazer uniform for over a year now. So this stings a little.

But on the bright side, #3 ain't bad pickins. No clue what the trade value would be for the #3 at this point, but I have to believe that Cronin and his team have discussed and planned for every scenario imaginable at this point and have a good idea what player/s this makes available via trade , Vs say the #6. Clueless really about what we will do with it, and feel we will have no reads on Cronin until draft day.

Winning the #1 was plan A for sure, but since we didn't, Cronin will move to plan B or C, whatever that is. Curious to get a comment from Dame at this point, and I wonder how #3 affects HIS plans. Would have much rather seen him, Sharpe or Simons... or even Cronin instead of B.Roy. Guess he can go back to Seattle now... That is where he lives, isn't it?

Gonna be a long, restless off-season for me I'm affraid. The draft is sooooooo far away. When does the trading start, or is it open market now? I forget. The rumors should start to swirl though, now that everyone knows who's picking where, and once the finals are over... Things could get really hot around the league. Love this time of year.

[The Sebastian Express]

He.. he is from the Seattle area.. so naturally.. he would live in his hometown area.. after he's retired..

[DusterBuster]

I feel like Scoot is who’s gonna be at 3. Think Miller is going 2 to Charlotte as nearly a lock. Don’t buy they would do Melo and Scoot. Don’t see the fit, and don’t think the Hornets are creative enough to think outside the box for that. They’ll want to pair Melo and Miller.

That puts the Blazers in a spot of having to work with a team in need of a PG. Which is also rough pairing him with Simons as the salary filler. Kinda duplicate players a bit, but I suppose Scoot probably projects a higher ceiling than Simons.

Refardless, I think the Raptors are back on deck. Siakam for Scoot seems like a reality. I think they’re ready to really reset around Barnes and Scoot is a perfect PG for him. But the salaries Portland have to add along with the pick makes it that I would want other players back too.

[Sinobas]

I think trading it + filler like Simons for Mikal would be ideal Mikal is young and has 3 years left on his contract.

[Blazers98]

If Miller is gone at #3, then OG and Siakam might be the best we can do.
Don't know if TOR goes for that.
What about Siakam and Poeltl?

[Sinobas]

I feel like Scoot is who’s gonna be at 3. Think Miller is going 2 to Charlotte as nearly a lock. Don’t buy they would do Melo and Scoot. Don’t see the fit, and don’t think the Hornets are creative enough to think outside the box for that. They’ll want to pair Melo and Miller.

That puts the Blazers in a spot of having to work with a team in need of a PG. Which is also rough pairing him with Simons as the salary filler. Kinda duplicate players a bit, but I suppose Scoot probably projects a higher ceiling than Simons.

Refardless, I think the Raptors are back on deck. Siakam for Scoot seems like a reality. I think they’re ready to really reset around Barnes and Scoot is a perfect PG for him. But the salaries Portland have to add along with the pick makes it that I would want other players back too.

I wouldn't deal for just Siakam. Siakam and OG yes.

[Blazers98]

Switch picks with Detroit for their pick and Duran.
Then trade #5 for Siakam?

Is KAT available?

[DusterBuster]

I feel like Scoot is who’s gonna be at 3. Think Miller is going 2 to Charlotte as nearly a lock. Don’t buy they would do Melo and Scoot. Don’t see the fit, and don’t think the Hornets are creative enough to think outside the box for that. They’ll want to pair Melo and Miller.

That puts the Blazers in a spot of having to work with a team in need of a PG. Which is also rough pairing him with Simons as the salary filler. Kinda duplicate players a bit, but I suppose Scoot probably projects a higher ceiling than Simons.

Refardless, I think the Raptors are back on deck. Siakam for Scoot seems like a reality. I think they’re ready to really reset around Barnes and Scoot is a perfect PG for him. But the salaries Portland have to add along with the pick makes it that I would want other players back too.

I wouldn't deal for just Siakam. Siakam and OG yes.

Agreed. Getting salaries to match is tough tho.

[The Sebastian Express]

I feel like Scoot is who’s gonna be at 3. Think Miller is going 2 to Charlotte as nearly a lock. Don’t buy they would do Melo and Scoot. Don’t see the fit, and don’t think the Hornets are creative enough to think outside the box for that. They’ll want to pair Melo and Miller.

That puts the Blazers in a spot of having to work with a team in need of a PG. Which is also rough pairing him with Simons as the salary filler. Kinda duplicate players a bit, but I suppose Scoot probably projects a higher ceiling than Simons.

Refardless, I think the Raptors are back on deck. Siakam for Scoot seems like a reality. I think they’re ready to really reset around Barnes and Scoot is a perfect PG for him. But the salaries Portland have to add along with the pick makes it that I would want other players back too.

I wouldn't deal for just Siakam. Siakam and OG yes.

Agreed. Getting salaries to match is tough tho.

Simons, Nurk, Little and Johnson match for Siakam and OG. The more I think about it I don't think I'd do Sharpe plus the three for these two. Which TOronto probably would not do, but I just can't.

Probably does not help that I am getting super excited about the draft now. Damn you, hope! Damn you and your relentless optimism you tempt us with!

[The Sebastian Express]

lolol.

This is actually made so much worse because Scoot or Miller on the side of Sharpe is so tantalizing. God damnit. DAMNIT.

[DusterBuster]

lolol.

This is actually made so much worse because Scoot or Miller on the side of Sharpe is so tantalizing. God damnit. DAMNIT.

I mean… do we discuss dealing Dame now.

[The Sebastian Express]

lolol.

This is actually made so much worse because Scoot or Miller on the side of Sharpe is so tantalizing. God damnit. DAMNIT.

I mean… do we discuss dealing Dame now.

So like I posted in some other threads. I think..

It all depends on the workouts. I'm pretty confident if Miller shows out at his workout, I think Dame would be okay with staying if we picked him. He might be a little disappointed, and he might get a little frustrated, but I think he'd be okay. I think we'd trade simons plus future picks for an upgrade at the center, but if we had a lineup of Dame/Sharpe/Miller/Grant/upgrade.. I think we make the playoffs next year. Not contenders, but we make the playoffs.

I think the real issue here is Scoot Henderson.

If Scoot shows out and has an insane workout and Charlotte takes Miller.. I mean. I love Dame. I don't want to trade Dame. But I do trust Portland's current scouts. And.. Dame isn't going to be okay with taking Scoot, because that's you know - that's not someone that's going to be able to play with him and move us towards a well-balanced team. I think that's maybe when you discuss trading Dame if Scoot just blows everyone away and is there at three. If Portland can't get Embiid for a heavy package or Mikal for a better (for Portland) package.

[Jsun947]

I feel like Scoot is who’s gonna be at 3. Think Miller is going 2 to Charlotte as nearly a lock. Don’t buy they would do Melo and Scoot. Don’t see the fit, and don’t think the Hornets are creative enough to think outside the box for that. They’ll want to pair Melo and Miller.

That puts the Blazers in a spot of having to work with a team in need of a PG. Which is also rough pairing him with Simons as the salary filler. Kinda duplicate players a bit, but I suppose Scoot probably projects a higher ceiling than Simons.

Refardless, I think the Raptors are back on deck. Siakam for Scoot seems like a reality. I think they’re ready to really reset around Barnes and Scoot is a perfect PG for him. But the salaries Portland have to add along with the pick makes it that I would want other players back too.

I wouldn't deal for just Siakam. Siakam and OG yes.

Wtf are you supposed to do with Siakam, OG, and Grant?

[DusterBuster]

lolol.

This is actually made so much worse because Scoot or Miller on the side of Sharpe is so tantalizing. God damnit. DAMNIT.

I mean… do we discuss dealing Dame now.

So like I posted in some other threads. I think..

It all depends on the workouts. I'm pretty confident if Miller shows out at his workout, I think Dame would be okay with staying if we picked him. He might be a little disappointed, and he might get a little frustrated, but I think he'd be okay. I think we'd trade simons plus future picks for an upgrade at the center, but if we had a lineup of Dame/Sharpe/Miller/Grant/upgrade.. I think we make the playoffs next year. Not contenders, but we make the playoffs.

I think the real issue here is Scoot Henderson.

If Scoot shows out and has an insane workout and Charlotte takes Miller.. I mean. I love Dame. I don't want to trade Dame. But I do trust Portland's current scouts. And.. Dame isn't going to be okay with taking Scoot, because that's you know - that's not someone that's going to be able to play with him and move us towards a well-balanced team. I think that's maybe when you discuss trading Dame if Scoot just blows everyone away and is there at three. If Portland can't get Embiid for a heavy package or Mikal for a better (for Portland) package.

I guess where my heads at, I don’t think Miller gets to 3. Workouts will matter, but I think Charlotte goes BPA and takes Miller to pair with Ball. So until I see any reason to believe otherwise, Scoot is #3.

I’m ok with Bridges if that deal is there, but is Dame and Bridges getting much done in the West? Is Bridges a for sure future All Star or just another in a long list of “All Star Caliber” player the Blazers pair with Dame?

I’m definitely getting to the point where maybe it’s just time to turn the page here and rebuild around Scoot and Sharpe. Maybe Dame to Brooklyn for Claxton and picks (don’t need your opinion on this JKidd, not looking for input), then Simons and Nurk for picks and players, then let Grant walk. If you want to go young and reboot, I think something along the lines of…

Scoot
Sharpe
Claxton

Is a nice core to rebuild around.

[DusterBuster]

I feel like Scoot is who’s gonna be at 3. Think Miller is going 2 to Charlotte as nearly a lock. Don’t buy they would do Melo and Scoot. Don’t see the fit, and don’t think the Hornets are creative enough to think outside the box for that. They’ll want to pair Melo and Miller.

That puts the Blazers in a spot of having to work with a team in need of a PG. Which is also rough pairing him with Simons as the salary filler. Kinda duplicate players a bit, but I suppose Scoot probably projects a higher ceiling than Simons.

Refardless, I think the Raptors are back on deck. Siakam for Scoot seems like a reality. I think they’re ready to really reset around Barnes and Scoot is a perfect PG for him. But the salaries Portland have to add along with the pick makes it that I would want other players back too.

I wouldn't deal for just Siakam. Siakam and OG yes.

Wtf are you supposed to do with Siakam, OG, and Grant?

I would think you let Grant walk at that point, but also not sure how the contracts are working out to get both Siakam and OG

[soobias]

I mean… do we discuss dealing Dame now.

So like I posted in some other threads. I think..

It all depends on the workouts. I'm pretty confident if Miller shows out at his workout, I think Dame would be okay with staying if we picked him. He might be a little disappointed, and he might get a little frustrated, but I think he'd be okay. I think we'd trade simons plus future picks for an upgrade at the center, but if we had a lineup of Dame/Sharpe/Miller/Grant/upgrade.. I think we make the playoffs next year. Not contenders, but we make the playoffs.

I think the real issue here is Scoot Henderson.

If Scoot shows out and has an insane workout and Charlotte takes Miller.. I mean. I love Dame. I don't want to trade Dame. But I do trust Portland's current scouts. And.. Dame isn't going to be okay with taking Scoot, because that's you know - that's not someone that's going to be able to play with him and move us towards a well-balanced team. I think that's maybe when you discuss trading Dame if Scoot just blows everyone away and is there at three. If Portland can't get Embiid for a heavy package or Mikal for a better (for Portland) package.

I guess where my heads at, I don’t think Miller gets to 3. Workouts will matter, but I think Charlotte goes BPA and takes Miller to pair with Ball. So until I see any reason to believe otherwise, Scoot is #3.

I’m ok with Bridges if that deal is there, but is Dame and Bridges getting much done in the West? Is Bridges a for sure future All Star or just another in a long list of “All Star Caliber” player the Blazers pair with Dame?

I’m definitely getting to the point where maybe it’s just time to turn the page here and rebuild around Scoot and Sharpe. Maybe Dame to Brooklyn for Claxton and picks (don’t need your opinion on this JKidd, not looking for input), then Simons and Nurk for picks and players, then let Grant walk. If you want to go young and reboot, I think something along the lines of…

Scoot
Sharpe
Claxton

Is a nice core to rebuild around.

this i would do but NETS would have to add cam and other + the picks

then would follow up with trading nurk and maybe simons and try and get woods from MAVS

[Norm2953]

They would have to let Grant walk if they traded for Siakum and OG for but think about them with
Dame, its perhaps $120 million for three players if they let Grant walk.

The smart move would be to do the rebuild for the picked owed to Chicago would not matter if the
team is in a rebuild, since its lottery protected. Scoot and Sharpe is the start of a solid rebuild.
Find a way to add young front court player but be prepared to be in the lottery next season
which appears to be poor but might end up okay if the bigs develop into FRP.

2024 draft will all be about Aday Mara (UCLA), Krivas (Arizona) and perhaps Bradshaw (UK) which are
three guys 7-1

[DusterBuster]

They would have to let Grant walk if they traded for Siakum and OG for but think about them with
Dame, its perhaps $120 million for three players if they let Grant walk.

The smart move would be to do the rebuild for the picked owed to Chicago would not matter if the
team is in a rebuild, since its lottery protected. Scoot and Sharpe is the start of a solid rebuild.
Find a way to add young front court player but be prepared to be in the lottery next season
which appears to be poor but might end up okay if the bigs develop into FRP.

2024 draft will all be about Aday Mara (UCLA), Krivas (Arizona) and perhaps Bradshaw (UK) which are
three guys 7-1

Honestly, if the Blazers full rebuild, it could drive down the value of that in Chicago's eyes to where Portland may be able to pay it off with some 2nd rounders.

[King Ken]

Picking at 3 if it's Scoot or Miller is the obvious choice. Those are great money moves.

Any trade I would be open to would have to be for a legit superstar like Giannis or Embiid. Ya'll gotta think about the contracts as well. If I can get a legit superstar. I'll keep 3 since you got a lot of value there this year. Pretty easy decision. Draft at 3.

As far as Lillard is concerned. He's under contract. If he wants to be traded, it's going to be .25 on a dollar since he will want to join a contender. I don't know what type of deal you would do. CP3 and Ayton for Dame. I don't know if you can do a good deal or even decent deal for Dame. That said, he's under contract, you don't have to trade if you don't want to. It's not like he's Giannis has only has two years left and you don't want to be stuck with nothing

[King Ken]

So like I posted in some other threads. I think..

It all depends on the workouts. I'm pretty confident if Miller shows out at his workout, I think Dame would be okay with staying if we picked him. He might be a little disappointed, and he might get a little frustrated, but I think he'd be okay. I think we'd trade simons plus future picks for an upgrade at the center, but if we had a lineup of Dame/Sharpe/Miller/Grant/upgrade.. I think we make the playoffs next year. Not contenders, but we make the playoffs.

I think the real issue here is Scoot Henderson.

If Scoot shows out and has an insane workout and Charlotte takes Miller.. I mean. I love Dame. I don't want to trade Dame. But I do trust Portland's current scouts. And.. Dame isn't going to be okay with taking Scoot, because that's you know - that's not someone that's going to be able to play with him and move us towards a well-balanced team. I think that's maybe when you discuss trading Dame if Scoot just blows everyone away and is there at three. If Portland can't get Embiid for a heavy package or Mikal for a better (for Portland) package.

I guess where my heads at, I don’t think Miller gets to 3. Workouts will matter, but I think Charlotte goes BPA and takes Miller to pair with Ball. So until I see any reason to believe otherwise, Scoot is #3.

I’m ok with Bridges if that deal is there, but is Dame and Bridges getting much done in the West? Is Bridges a for sure future All Star or just another in a long list of “All Star Caliber” player the Blazers pair with Dame?

I’m definitely getting to the point where maybe it’s just time to turn the page here and rebuild around Scoot and Sharpe. Maybe Dame to Brooklyn for Claxton and picks (don’t need your opinion on this JKidd, not looking for input), then Simons and Nurk for picks and players, then let Grant walk. If you want to go young and reboot, I think something along the lines of…

Scoot
Sharpe
Claxton

Is a nice core to rebuild around.

this i would do but NETS would have to add cam and other + the picks

then would follow up with trading nurk and maybe simons and try and get woods from MAVS

While I don't believe the Nets will trade Mikal, he's not a difference maker. Portland just aren't at that stage. This is a rebuilding team. Dame should have been gone if we keeping it a buck.