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Post#41 » by DusterBuster » Fri May 19, 2023 11:19 pm

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Post#42 » by The Sebastian Express » Fri May 19, 2023 11:23 pm

Not a surprise. But you definitely don't trade the three for any of them.

But even more reason why I think they work with Portland this year to get the NYK pick.
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Post#43 » by Norm2953 » Fri May 19, 2023 11:34 pm

I'm skeptical Ant + 3 would get Portland anywhere close to Bridges.

Paul George like OG has a player option after this season but might be more attainable for
the Clippers have to be thinking about the second tax apron with their payroll.

Bridges will be a good player and he's signed to a solid contract $68 million/3. The potential
of pick 3, likely Scoot is unclear but he'll be playing on rookie contract for the next 5 yrs
and under control as RFA which means he'll be here for the rest of the decade. I would hate
to trade these top 3 guys whom are under control unless its for a guy who with Dame could
reasonably challenge for a conference title. I'm skeptical Bridges, Dame and a Sharpe in 2023
could lead a team to a title. Those guys are Emblid/Giannis, along with Doncic and Jokic who
simply are not available in a trade for Portland.

If Portland could get Bridges for Ant + 3, that would be fine but the price is more likely Sharpe + 3
and more picks and that would be too much
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Post#44 » by zzaj » Fri May 19, 2023 11:35 pm

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The Sebastian Express wrote:I also don't think it's fair in the sense to think of Mikal's means as his potential. This is a guy who was third option for most of his first few years behind Booker and to an extent CP3, I think. Sort of in a crunch with Ayton right there. Or maybe 2A/2B with Ayton and was asked to do a lot of the side work rather than scoring.

I think his time with Brooklyn and showing what he can do has opened up his confidence and his willingness to do more with the ball and at the cup.


Well, fit is everything and Bridges found a good fit, that's for sure. At 26 he's entering his prime, and we can probably assume he's going to continue being roughly a 4.5 rebounds 3.5 assists guy given years past. His scoring will probably fluctuate a bit, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him float back down to 17 PPG depending on his fit...I personally don't see him scoring 26 ppg for the rest of his career, but I guess we'll see.

Again, I think a 17/5/3 guy with good defense is available in this draft--there may be 2 or 3, actually.


I just think 17ppg is pretty low for what he's going to be in the future. I think his Nets numbers are far more indicative for the rest of his career if he's going to be a 1 or 2 option. His 17ppg was when he was a 3rd / 4th option. I just think you're massively underselling what Mikal brings. On top of that, he's one of the healthiest players in the league, he hasn't missed a game in a couple seasons now.


I hope you're right...but context. He'd be coming to a Blazer team with Lillard, Grant, a Sharpe who hopefully will get more touches, and even Nurkic who will still get his 10 shots a game. I just don't see Mikal getting 18 shots a game and 30+% here like he did in BKN...I could very well be wrong. Maybe I'm getting biased by, oh I don't know 20-30 years of the Blazers not having good SFs. Batum is obviously the last decent one, but he's more like a 'before' Bridges. I don't know how far back you'd have to go to find a dominant one...maybe never.

Okay, I'm starting to ramble here :lol:

Edit: I spaced Kiki...he was probably the most "dominant", but that was almost 40 years ago now.
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Post#45 » by m0ng0 » Sat May 20, 2023 12:01 am

My concern is who plays the 4? Grant and Bridges appear to be duplicity. Imo we do not need both. Especially at what Grant is being paid. That's giving up a lot for a younger Grant. Even looking at the stats they are pretty close considering Bridges played 500 more minutes?
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Post#46 » by tester551 » Sat May 20, 2023 12:04 am

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Maybe something like this?

Nurk + Little + 23 -> to Phoenix
Phoenix lowers salary while getting more depth.


Ayton -> to Chicago
Chicago buys into the allure of Ayton. They have time to pair him with Lavine


DDR -> to Portland
Portland takes the best player in the deal, and looks to cover the C position with a FA signing.
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Post#47 » by Pattycakes » Sat May 20, 2023 3:01 am

Blazers should absolutely pickup demar if available. Not with our 3rd pick but other routes.
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Post#48 » by DusterBuster » Sat May 20, 2023 3:36 am

Pattycakes wrote:Blazers should absolutely pickup demar if available. Not with our 3rd pick but other routes.


I’m actually pretty firmly in the camp that DDR and LaVine are pretty underrated here. I chalk it up to the Bulls obviously not being a big national media team or many fans in PNW paying attention to them, but I think both would be pretty massive pickups for Portland.

I wouldn’t give up 3 for DDR either, but if there was a deal to get him for like Simons and the 23, that’s a good deal that would markedly improve the team.
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Post#49 » by DusterBuster » Sat May 20, 2023 3:36 am

The Sebastian Express wrote:Not a surprise. But you definitely don't trade the three for any of them.

But even more reason why I think they work with Portland this year to get the NYK pick.


I get that guy reaction, I have the same. That said, I wonder why that is, especially with LaVine. He’s only 28, he’s averaging almost 25 a game, he’s a good defender and he’s got good size at 6’8”. Why isn’t he higher regarded? Just the injury history?
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Post#50 » by DusterBuster » Sat May 20, 2023 3:39 am

m0ng0 wrote:My concern is who plays the 4? Grant and Bridges appear to be duplicity. Imo we do not need both. Especially at what Grant is being paid. That's giving up a lot for a younger Grant. Even looking at the stats they are pretty close considering Bridges played 500 more minutes?


They most definitely aren’t duplicity. Grant is still the 4 without question and Bridges the 3.

You would have a roster of…

Dame
Sharpe
Bridges
Grant
Nurk

And maybe Portland can get a Nurk deal in to upgrade 5 as well.
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Post#51 » by Dame Lizard » Sat May 20, 2023 3:43 am

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Goldbum wrote:My source doesn't work for either team but said he hadn't heard about 3 going to Pheonix. He heard an Ant + Nurkic package and actually thinks that's an overpay. According to him 3rd has been discussed for Bridges though. Brooklyn is VERY interested in Scoot. Not so much Miller


This would seem to line up with that Goldbum mentioned... seems likely both Nets and Blazers have discussed Bridges for Ant and #3 already. I would imagine this is the first call Dame wanted made.

If it's a go on Brooklyn's side, than I'm guessing the only thing waiting on now is Brooklyn making sure Scoot is still available at 2.
I'd be happy enough if we traded #3 and Simons for Bridges. And then if that idea doesn't work with Brooklyn, then start discussing trade packages for Dame. Get him to a contender while getting some good picks in return.
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Post#52 » by DusterBuster » Sat May 20, 2023 3:46 am

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Goldbum wrote:My source doesn't work for either team but said he hadn't heard about 3 going to Pheonix. He heard an Ant + Nurkic package and actually thinks that's an overpay. According to him 3rd has been discussed for Bridges though. Brooklyn is VERY interested in Scoot. Not so much Miller


This would seem to line up with that Goldbum mentioned... seems likely both Nets and Blazers have discussed Bridges for Ant and #3 already. I would imagine this is the first call Dame wanted made.

If it's a go on Brooklyn's side, than I'm guessing the only thing waiting on now is Brooklyn making sure Scoot is still available at 2.
I'd be happy enough if we traded #3 and Simons for Bridges. And then if that idea doesn't work with Brooklyn, then start discussing trade packages for Dame. Get him to a contender while getting some good picks in return.


It doesn’t have to be that black and white. There could be other deals out there. I’m keeping an open mind about what could be possible, and if multiple plans fail, then plan Z can be trade Dame.
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Post#53 » by m0ng0 » Sat May 20, 2023 3:50 am

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m0ng0 wrote:My concern is who plays the 4? Grant and Bridges appear to be duplicity. Imo we do not need both. Especially at what Grant is being paid. That's giving up a lot for a younger Grant. Even looking at the stats they are pretty close considering Bridges played 500 more minutes?


They most definitely aren’t duplicity. Grant is still the 4 without question and Bridges the 3.

You would have a roster of…

Dame
Sharpe
Bridges
Grant
Nurk

And maybe Portland can get a Nurk deal in to upgrade 5 as well.


we would get crushed on the boards for sure.
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Post#54 » by DusterBuster » Sat May 20, 2023 4:10 am

Is Jaylen Brown back on the table if the Celts flame out in 4 or 5?
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Post#55 » by DusterBuster » Sat May 20, 2023 4:11 am

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m0ng0 wrote:My concern is who plays the 4? Grant and Bridges appear to be duplicity. Imo we do not need both. Especially at what Grant is being paid. That's giving up a lot for a younger Grant. Even looking at the stats they are pretty close considering Bridges played 500 more minutes?


They most definitely aren’t duplicity. Grant is still the 4 without question and Bridges the 3.

You would have a roster of…

Dame
Sharpe
Bridges
Grant
Nurk

And maybe Portland can get a Nurk deal in to upgrade 5 as well.


we would get crushed on the boards for sure.


Only an upgrade at C is fixing that.
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Post#56 » by m0ng0 » Sat May 20, 2023 4:23 am

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They most definitely aren’t duplicity. Grant is still the 4 without question and Bridges the 3.

You would have a roster of…

Dame
Sharpe
Bridges
Grant
Nurk

And maybe Portland can get a Nurk deal in to upgrade 5 as well.


we would get crushed on the boards for sure.


Only an upgrade at C is fixing that.


Or a real power forward :wink:
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Post#57 » by tester551 » Sat May 20, 2023 5:15 am

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They most definitely aren’t duplicity. Grant is still the 4 without question and Bridges the 3.

You would have a roster of…

Dame
Sharpe
Bridges
Grant
Nurk

And maybe Portland can get a Nurk deal in to upgrade 5 as well.


we would get crushed on the boards for sure.


Only an upgrade at C is fixing that.

Nurk is actually above average for a rebounder. The issue is he can't do it alone. We need someone at the PF position who can rebound
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Post#58 » by DusterBuster » Sat May 20, 2023 5:29 am

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we would get crushed on the boards for sure.


Only an upgrade at C is fixing that.

Nurk is actually above average for a rebounder. The issue is he can't do it alone. We need someone at the PF position who can rebound


He is, he’s just too inconsistent health and effort wise.
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Post#59 » by monopoman » Sat May 20, 2023 5:47 am

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This would seem to line up with that Goldbum mentioned... seems likely both Nets and Blazers have discussed Bridges for Ant and #3 already. I would imagine this is the first call Dame wanted made.

If it's a go on Brooklyn's side, than I'm guessing the only thing waiting on now is Brooklyn making sure Scoot is still available at 2.
I'd be happy enough if we traded #3 and Simons for Bridges. And then if that idea doesn't work with Brooklyn, then start discussing trade packages for Dame. Get him to a contender while getting some good picks in return.


It doesn’t have to be that black and white. There could be other deals out there. I’m keeping an open mind about what could be possible, and if multiple plans fail, then plan Z can be trade Dame.


I could see Embiid getting very restless if Harden leaves, the 6ers team has actually progressively gotten worse over the years. We could field a very competitive offer for Embiid if we wanted. Unless this Harden in Houston thing is all smoke screen by Harden to make sure the 6ers give him a huge contract, I seriously doubt Embiid will want to stick around.

There also is a small chance Giannis could be interested in being in Portland, I think this one is far less likely though. I would give Embiid about a 40% chance at potentially looking to leave, I would give Giannis about a 5% or 10% chance at best. I know for a fact though that Giannis and Dame are pretty close, both guys are very loyal to their team though and that was why they never teamed up.
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Post#60 » by GreenRiddler » Sat May 20, 2023 5:49 am

I think we kick the tires with the 3 pick and if we don’t get an all nba talent level (we won’) we draft someone and Dame will accept it and we will just build with him.

Now the question is who is that at 3 if it is Scoot that would hamper his development and we would have to move simons

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