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Re: Game 29 Portland vs Utah 7:00pm Chargetv 

Post#41 » by BNM » Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:19 pm

Norm2953 wrote:
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Norm2953 wrote:Oftentimes, just changing the voice in the room helps. That same Blazers team got beat by 42 points
by the 5 win Jazz by December 6 that was missing their best player but won the re-match with their
best players without Chauncey.

Like it or not, Billups is 81-165 in his coaching career in Portland coming into this season and
the team is 8-20 this season with Billups. That's a record that gets a coach fired by most ownerships.


Yes, most teams indeed. In the entire 79 year history of the NBA, there have only been 3 head coaches with worse records make it through four seasons without being fired. Two of the three were expansion teams and only one of the three has been since the 1970 (and he led his team to a .488 record in his 4th season).

Chauncey Billups 2022-2025: 0.332 (includes the 2 recent wins with Bjorkgren coaching, without those two wins, Chauncey is behind Kerr at 0.327)
Red Kerr 1967-1970: .329 (expansion Chicago Bulls)
Eddie Donovan 1962-1965: 0.302
Ron Rothstein 1989-1993: 0.296 (expansion Miami Heat, team improved every season: 0.183, 0.220, 0.293, 0.488)


Naming Bjorkgren the interim coach might simply be him doing what most of us can see is using Deni in his
Point forward role he's most suited for.

Gives him a chance to at least compete for the HC job for next season if the team does well under his leadership.
Team is a lottery team but really should be better


I'd be fine with an interim head coach that prioritizes developing our younger players over playing the overpriced vets.

Still, unless we're waiting for a current head coach to be fired or a college coach's season to end, we'd likely have less competition for "our guy" right now if we're targeting a current assistant coach.

Of course, this assumes ownership actually cares and the front office has a post-Billups plan in the works (other than wait for the off season and see what's available).
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Re: Game 29 Portland vs Utah 7:00pm Chargetv 

Post#42 » by Shem » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:00 am

Norm2953 wrote:Oftentimes, just changing the voice in the room helps. That same Blazers team got beat by 42 points
by the 5 win Jazz by December 6 that was missing their best player but won the re-match with their
best players without Chauncey.

Such a dumb analogy. It's like people don't know that results change via each game played against each other. I recall the Blazers playing New Orleans in back-to-back games during the first week of the season and lost one (by 2 points), and win one (by 18 points). According to your logic you just displayed here, they should have lost (or won) practically the same way.

How come on Oct 30th, the Blazes beat the Clippers in LA by one point, but later on December 3, the same Blazers team went into LA to face the Clippers again and lost by 22?

How come on Nov 22, the Blazes went into Houston and lost by 22 points, but the very next night playing the same Houston team in Houston, they Blazers won by 6.

In each of those examples the Blazers were coached by Billups.

Need I remind you that there's a reason why the playoffs are a best of 7 games because the outcomes don't always happen the same way? Or did that part of how team sports play out go over your head when making that analogy? Just say you were drunk when you posted that.
April 4, 2014:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:I never said Dallas was good as Portland


Earlier on December 8, 2013:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:That's the Whole Point Portland is No better than Dallas
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Re: Game 29 Portland vs Utah 7:00pm Chargetv 

Post#43 » by Shem » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:04 am

BNM wrote:Ah yes, the obligatory Chauncey apologist Shen strawman. I am not saying ANY of the things I bolded in your post. I already said the Bjorkgren post was a joke and I have been calling for Chauncey to be fired going back to that all star break during Dame's last season in Portland - when POR led the league, by a wide margin, in blown double digit 2nd half leads at 15. This, when they were a veteran team, with the goal of making the playoffs and keeping Dame in Portland. Chauncey didn't just suddenly become a bad coach - he's always been one, whether the goal is winning now with a veteran team or developing young talent. He is not, and never was, the right guy for either scenario and the (lack of)results speak for themselves.

How do you not know that the last two seasons Dame was here that the Blazers tanked their season? How do you not remember that in year one with Billups, Dame played 29 games and he was injured all 29 of those games?

How did you not know that the Blazers pulled the rug out and tanked the rest of the 2nd season of Billups career with Dame and Dame only play 58 games even though the team was in the playoff hunt at the all star break? And how you don't remember that Dame sat out the end of the season to tank for the 3rd pick in the draft? Again, how do you not know that?

Now go after Gregg Popovich. His Spurs team hasn't made the playoffs since 2019. What happened? I mean the Spurs franchise since the NBA/ABA merger when they came over from the ABA to join the NBA, the Spurs only missed the playoffs 4 times in its first 43 seasons. Now they have missed it 5 times in a row. This is the worst time in Spurs franchise history in terms of losing and guess who the coach is? Why isn't he fired for being a horrible coach?

Phil Jackson would even struggled with this roster. It's not as talented/experienced be a contending team as people think it is. People tend to overvalue the talent on their team and think something is holding them back when that's not the case.
April 4, 2014:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:I never said Dallas was good as Portland


Earlier on December 8, 2013:
HotrodBeaubois wrote:That's the Whole Point Portland is No better than Dallas

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