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Post#401 » by monopoman » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:36 am

The Heat might be the best destination for a trade in the entire NBA if Dame wants out, this puts Dame on a team he said he would be willing to go to. He provides some scoring that this Heat team desperately needs and they have the pieces to get a decent trade done, unlike say Brooklyn or Phoenix.


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This plus some picks going to Portland looks very good to me, Herro and Oladipo are solid pieces that we could either keep or move for other picks/players. Miami could easily make this work and this pushes them into top 3 team in the East status without question. Miami is also a master at finding random G-leagues or NBA players no one cares about, and making them work in their system, so even if they lose a key piece they can likely find some lesser players to fill roles.

Blazers also save salary in this trade which I'm sure would make Jody much more thrilled with a potential trade.
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Post#402 » by 52-12-7 » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:42 am

Norm2953 wrote:The thing is though, Scoot does play at a premium position on the court.

I'm not convinced SS should be in the same conversation for he's got to prove himself
in games that really matter. Last year at this time, most of this board was much higher
on Ant and just look at his stock this summer.

There is no mistake however most of the trade talk involving Portland involves SS and 3
and its quite possible Toronto would trade OG + Pascal for SS and 3 (with other guys
going out in filler).

I'd caution about expectations for SS for let's say Portland traded 3 for Bridges. Between
Dame, Grant and Bridges, just how many scoring opportunities would Sharpe get with 3
ball dominant players ahead of him?


Blazers can't afford to pay OG and Siakam, and their contacts both expire next season. There's absolutely no way Blazers can keep both of them, heck both of them might walk. Trading Sharpe and 3 for possible one year rentals is a disaster even if Blazers can afford them.
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Post#403 » by Wizenheimer » Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:08 am

monopoman wrote:The Heat might be the best destination for a trade in the entire NBA if Dame wants out, this puts Dame on a team he said he would be willing to go to. He provides some scoring that this Heat team desperately needs and they have the pieces to get a decent trade done, unlike say Brooklyn or Phoenix.


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This plus some picks going to Portland looks very good to me, Herro and Oladipo are solid pieces that we could either keep or move for other picks/players. Miami could easily make this work and this pushes them into top 3 team in the East status without question. Miami is also a master at finding random G-leagues or NBA players no one cares about, and making them work in their system, so even if they lose a key piece they can likely find some lesser players to fill roles.

Blazers also save salary in this trade which I'm sure would make Jody much more thrilled with a potential trade.


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Post#404 » by DusterBuster » Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:26 am

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DusterBuster wrote:For what it's worth, Marang who's pretty plugged in does not believe the Blazers would have as much interest in BI and this would have to be Zion (with Dame's sign-off) if they make the deal. He doesn't believe BI is a big enough needle mover for Portland, especially with what else they need to give up. Also - if Zion is really available here - it would need to be a multi-team deal since the Pels won't have much interest in Ant w/ Scoot and CJ. Possibly Orlando is a fit here since they've called about getting Ant every year he's been in the league.

The Blazers thinking according to Marang based on people in the league he's talked to, they and many people in the league believe Scoot is a generational talent, so if you trade him, you better get a generational-level All NBA talent back in the deal.


If the Blazers believe Scoot is a generational talent I highly doubt we trade him regardless of what the return is


It’s why I seriously question that they will.
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Post#405 » by Effigy » Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:38 am

monopoman wrote:The Heat might be the best destination for a trade in the entire NBA if Dame wants out, this puts Dame on a team he said he would be willing to go to. He provides some scoring that this Heat team desperately needs and they have the pieces to get a decent trade done, unlike say Brooklyn or Phoenix.


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This plus some picks going to Portland looks very good to me, Herro and Oladipo are solid pieces that we could either keep or move for other picks/players. Miami could easily make this work and this pushes them into top 3 team in the East status without question. Miami is also a master at finding random G-leagues or NBA players no one cares about, and making them work in their system, so even if they lose a key piece they can likely find some lesser players to fill roles.

Blazers also save salary in this trade which I'm sure would make Jody much more thrilled with a potential trade.



My only issues with Miami are 1) they are never bad so the picks we get from them will suck and 2) they are too smart to make the desperate stupid team trade where they trade all their allowed first for Dame. But other than that I’m ok with sending him there. It’s good for him and lets us rebuild. hero and those picks aren’t nothing.
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Post#406 » by The Sebastian Express » Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:18 am

I would not do three for Ingram. I think Ingram has grown, but he hasn't vaulted into consistent All NBA talent, is inconsistent, and also has injury concerns. I think he is a great young player. But I would want more back in that situation. I understand if New Orleans wouldn't want to give up more.

I would honestly take the risk on Zion just because of the insane ceiling. I understand why many here wouldn't.
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Post#407 » by monopoman » Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:00 am

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DusterBuster wrote:For what it's worth, Marang who's pretty plugged in does not believe the Blazers would have as much interest in BI and this would have to be Zion (with Dame's sign-off) if they make the deal. He doesn't believe BI is a big enough needle mover for Portland, especially with what else they need to give up. Also - if Zion is really available here - it would need to be a multi-team deal since the Pels won't have much interest in Ant w/ Scoot and CJ. Possibly Orlando is a fit here since they've called about getting Ant every year he's been in the league.

The Blazers thinking according to Marang based on people in the league he's talked to, they and many people in the league believe Scoot is a generational talent, so if you trade him, you better get a generational-level All NBA talent back in the deal.


If the Blazers believe Scoot is a generational talent I highly doubt we trade him regardless of what the return is


It’s why I seriously question that they will.


They would be dumb to trade Scoot for any non-star talent if they view he is a potential top 15 player in the future. That is why I scoff at any trade like OG, Ayton, or some other rando player for the #3 especially since we have to add more salary on top of that to make the trade.

Siakim is about the best we can do and even that feels like an overpay since again we can't trade #3 for Siakim straight up. All of these moves make us slightly better in the near future and potentially way worse in the next 5 or 10 years. The Blazers look like the dumbest team in the NBA if Scoot comes out and becomes as good or better than a prime Westbrook.
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Post#408 » by monopoman » Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:03 am

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monopoman wrote:The Heat might be the best destination for a trade in the entire NBA if Dame wants out, this puts Dame on a team he said he would be willing to go to. He provides some scoring that this Heat team desperately needs and they have the pieces to get a decent trade done, unlike say Brooklyn or Phoenix.


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This plus some picks going to Portland looks very good to me, Herro and Oladipo are solid pieces that we could either keep or move for other picks/players. Miami could easily make this work and this pushes them into top 3 team in the East status without question. Miami is also a master at finding random G-leagues or NBA players no one cares about, and making them work in their system, so even if they lose a key piece they can likely find some lesser players to fill roles.

Blazers also save salary in this trade which I'm sure would make Jody much more thrilled with a potential trade.



My only issues with Miami are 1) they are never bad so the picks we get from them will suck and 2) they are too smart to make the desperate stupid team trade where they trade all their allowed first for Dame. But other than that I’m ok with sending him there. It’s good for him and lets us rebuild. hero and those picks aren’t nothing.


I view this more as the Drexler situation but I hope Dame takes more time to appreciate Portland in his later years. We made the Drexler trade sending him to his best possible situation to win, I think we owe Dame the same chance. Nothing annoyed me more than when Drexler acted like he was a Rocket his entire career after his retirement **** that guy.

They also need us more than we need them, this is basically a golden opportunity for them to have an extremely good team. We have to keep in mind Miami has come out the loser the last 3 times they went to the NBA Finals, if this continues they start develop a narrative that outside of the LBJ super team years they were never good enough to get it done in the Finals.
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Post#409 » by Napoleon7 » Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:43 am

The Sebastian Express wrote:I would not do three for Ingram. I think Ingram has grown, but he hasn't vaulted into consistent All NBA talent, is inconsistent, and also has injury concerns. I think he is a great young player. But I would want more back in that situation. I understand if New Orleans wouldn't want to give up more.

I would honestly take the risk on Zion just because of the insane ceiling. I understand why many here wouldn't.

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Post#410 » by The Sebastian Express » Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:18 am

Thinking on it more, if we did trade 3 for Ingram - which I am not for - I would not want to trade Simons in that package. I would do Nurk, Little and Knox plus three for Ingram and then that leaves us with Ant to trade for a center.
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Post#411 » by Pattycakes » Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:59 am

Effigy wrote:
monopoman wrote:The Heat might be the best destination for a trade in the entire NBA if Dame wants out, this puts Dame on a team he said he would be willing to go to. He provides some scoring that this Heat team desperately needs and they have the pieces to get a decent trade done, unlike say Brooklyn or Phoenix.


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This plus some picks going to Portland looks very good to me, Herro and Oladipo are solid pieces that we could either keep or move for other picks/players. Miami could easily make this work and this pushes them into top 3 team in the East status without question. Miami is also a master at finding random G-leagues or NBA players no one cares about, and making them work in their system, so even if they lose a key piece they can likely find some lesser players to fill roles.

Blazers also save salary in this trade which I'm sure would make Jody much more thrilled with a potential trade.



My only issues with Miami are 1) they are never bad so the picks we get from them will suck and 2) they are too smart to make the desperate stupid team trade where they trade all their allowed first for Dame. But other than that I’m ok with sending him there. It’s good for him and lets us rebuild. hero and those picks aren’t nothing.


Wait who just called Oladipo a solid piece? These Dame/3 trades are getting laughable
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Post#412 » by monopoman » Tue Jun 13, 2023 11:21 am

Pattycakes wrote:
Effigy wrote:
monopoman wrote:The Heat might be the best destination for a trade in the entire NBA if Dame wants out, this puts Dame on a team he said he would be willing to go to. He provides some scoring that this Heat team desperately needs and they have the pieces to get a decent trade done, unlike say Brooklyn or Phoenix.


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This plus some picks going to Portland looks very good to me, Herro and Oladipo are solid pieces that we could either keep or move for other picks/players. Miami could easily make this work and this pushes them into top 3 team in the East status without question. Miami is also a master at finding random G-leagues or NBA players no one cares about, and making them work in their system, so even if they lose a key piece they can likely find some lesser players to fill roles.

Blazers also save salary in this trade which I'm sure would make Jody much more thrilled with a potential trade.



My only issues with Miami are 1) they are never bad so the picks we get from them will suck and 2) they are too smart to make the desperate stupid team trade where they trade all their allowed first for Dame. But other than that I’m ok with sending him there. It’s good for him and lets us rebuild. hero and those picks aren’t nothing.


Wait who just called Oladipo a solid piece? These Dame/3 trades are getting laughable


Who the **** said we were giving up the 3+Dame? This trade was just for Dame, not sure what you are talking about. Oladipo also was a good player some time ago maybe injuries have taken that away.

There is no way we give up the 3+Dame I can't imagine any trade that ends up with that.
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Post#413 » by DaVoiceMaster » Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:58 pm

monopoman wrote:
Effigy wrote:
monopoman wrote:The Heat might be the best destination for a trade in the entire NBA if Dame wants out, this puts Dame on a team he said he would be willing to go to. He provides some scoring that this Heat team desperately needs and they have the pieces to get a decent trade done, unlike say Brooklyn or Phoenix.


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This plus some picks going to Portland looks very good to me, Herro and Oladipo are solid pieces that we could either keep or move for other picks/players. Miami could easily make this work and this pushes them into top 3 team in the East status without question. Miami is also a master at finding random G-leagues or NBA players no one cares about, and making them work in their system, so even if they lose a key piece they can likely find some lesser players to fill roles.

Blazers also save salary in this trade which I'm sure would make Jody much more thrilled with a potential trade.



My only issues with Miami are 1) they are never bad so the picks we get from them will suck and 2) they are too smart to make the desperate stupid team trade where they trade all their allowed first for Dame. But other than that I’m ok with sending him there. It’s good for him and lets us rebuild. hero and those picks aren’t nothing.


I view this more as the Drexler situation but I hope Dame takes more time to appreciate Portland in his later years. We made the Drexler trade sending him to his best possible situation to win, I think we owe Dame the same chance. Nothing annoyed me more than when Drexler acted like he was a Rocket his entire career after his retirement **** that guy.

They also need us more than we need them, this is basically a golden opportunity for them to have an extremely good team. We have to keep in mind Miami has come out the loser the last 3 times they went to the NBA Finals, if this continues they start develop a narrative that outside of the LBJ super team years they were never good enough to get it done in the Finals.


I have never cared for Drexler since the trade for those very reasons. The Blazers did him a solid. Even Walton wore a Blazers jacket at the 50 Greatest Players ceremony, right here in Portland. Drexler wore a Rockets jacket. If Miami had Lillard and Nurkic, that Finals series looks completely different. Miami is just not a good trade partner.

I'm in the camp with Wiz though. I don't think Lillard is going anywhere, even if the Blazers keep the pick. I think he is here to stay. Now, that doesn't mean I don't like to have a little fun and think of what the Blazers could get in return from trading Lillard.
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Post#414 » by Sinobas » Tue Jun 13, 2023 2:55 pm

#3. Simons/Nurk for Zion and Jonas?

Zion might make us a contender if healthy. Which is the big IF here.
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Post#415 » by DusterBuster » Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:01 pm

Sinobas wrote:#3. Simons/Nurk for Zion and Jonas?

Zion might make us a contender if healthy. Which is the big IF here.


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Post#416 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:11 pm

I am out on Zion. Guys that lazy never get it together. He is averaging 23 games played per year (Or something similar). Its like moving #3 for someone w/ Oden level issues staying on the floor.

At least Oden had no control over his issues (Like, one leg was literally longer than the other - he had no chance). Zion has all the control over this situation and has chosen to sit on his ass and eat Cheetos.
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Post#417 » by JRoy » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:44 pm

Zero interest in Zion.

Haven’t we had enough of that?
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Post#418 » by JasonStern » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:47 pm

Norm2953 wrote:That Miami Heat moderator who keeps arguing the Heat doesn't need Dame might be having
second thoughts after watching game 5 in Denver.

In a last second situation with Dame and Jimmy Butler, those guys would be lethal.


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Post#419 » by Norm2953 » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:51 pm

Best deals for Portland involve trading 3 for guys like Bridges who are signed long term on what's
considered good contracts. Portland would do Simons + 3 for Bridges in a second.

I do think if we end up drafting Scoot, we're going to need a lot of draft assets for the roster
will have to be retooled around Scoot, Sharpe
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Post#420 » by Wizenheimer » Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:32 pm

monopoman wrote:
Pattycakes wrote:
Effigy wrote:

My only issues with Miami are 1) they are never bad so the picks we get from them will suck and 2) they are too smart to make the desperate stupid team trade where they trade all their allowed first for Dame. But other than that I’m ok with sending him there. It’s good for him and lets us rebuild. hero and those picks aren’t nothing.


Wait who just called Oladipo a solid piece? These Dame/3 trades are getting laughable


Who the **** said we were giving up the 3+Dame? This trade was just for Dame, not sure what you are talking about. Oladipo also was a good player some time ago maybe injuries have taken that away.

There is no way we give up the 3+Dame I can't imagine any trade that ends up with that.


pretty sure when he wrote Dame/3 that meant either/or, not both

and he's right that a lot of these trade-Dame and trade-3 ideas are pretty bad

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