'Short' time till the Draft

[TBpup]

Macadam Grill aslo has a nice place with a huge big screen and a room that is set off a little bit from everyone else.

[Norm2953]

I'm on record as being satisfied with moving up the six or seven spots in the draft
as being our "big" trade for the summer. I'm always fearful of situations where a
team's GM feels he needs to make a big splash in order to save his job for
remember the bad trades in Blazer's history ( my 3 worst Blazers trades)

1) Maurice Lucas + 2 #1 picks for Calvin Natt
2) 5 players for Kiki Vandeweghe
3) The Jermaine O'Neal deal for Shawn Kemp

Teams do better in deals when they are not aggressively looking for a deal for it can
be assumed KP is on the hot seat for the failures of his cap space plan for we could
really be in bad shape if we had signed Hedo. KP failed to get anything for Raef's
contract and failed to maximize league wide in Rudy Fernandez last summer when his
trade value was as high as it would only be.

I'm over whether KP stays or goes for as a scout and draft guy, he's great but as a big
picture guy we could do better. It could very well be both KP and Nate would need
to go if the team needed to make hard decisions as to being really competitive in the
playoffs. It would be interesting to see if KP would accept a demotion from GM to
director of player personnel for it would remove him from the big picture, business
stuff and allow him to concentrate on evaluating talent which he's on par with the
best guys. Just move up enough spots to get the guy the scouts and KP really think
would help the team most for next season at a reasonable cost.

[The Sebastian Express]

Iggy is not an all-star.

[blazers73]

Iggy might not be an All Star but he is a very good player. I love Iggy as a player.

But Iggy would not work on this team unless we unloaded Miller.
Miller
Roy
Iggy
LA
Oden

Roy is the only decent shooter in the bunch and he isn't a huge threat downtown. That would be a recipe for disaster on the offensive end. One giant clog.

[jeffhardyfan52]

I would be down for a draft party if its at a place where under 21 is allowed

[ROYalty]

If we move up for Eric Bledsoe? That guy seems like crazy...

[cucad8]

Yeah, I just don't see KP trading from 22 to 16 as being a move that saves his job. Hey Paul, got us another rookie! You're Fired.

[JasonStern]

Yeah, I just don't see KP trading from 22 to 16 as being a move that saves his job. Hey Paul, got us another rookie! You're Fired.

even if he's a euro??

[EGame]

Atlanta receives:
LaMarcus Aldridge $10,744,000

Portland trades:
LaMarcus Aldridge - incoming salary value of $5,844,000
Joel Przybilla $ 7,405,000

Village Idiot...I see you made the adjustment for Lamarcus being a BYC1 player after July 1. Thank you! A number of people have just thrown his name out there as a trade piece without consideration of the cap. Until July 1, he has a 'Poison Pill' contract which makes him almost untradeable. After July 1, you can't trade him $$ for $$ because of his status. Good job.

That said, Joel can not be thrown into a trade yet either. While it is a formality, he has a player option and has to excersice that before he is a tradeable piece. No one doubts he will but he can't be included before that declaration. The rumor was that this could potentially be done before the draft but I don't see how unless it is just an 'agreed to in principal' trade.

It's not for lack of effort, but we may have to wait longer than earlier indicated to see if it can be pulled off.

Oh so earlier you were saying it is not the sign and trade deal variety since it should be completed before the draft, but now you are stating that you don't see how which means it could very well be a sign and trade deal. Gotcha loud and clear, Pup! Chris Bosh we wait your arrival.

[b33nine]

3) The Jermaine O'Neal deal for Shawn Kemp

We traded Jermaine for Dale Davis iirc. I'm not sure if Kemp was a free agent signing or if he was a trade but I'm pretty certain we didn't trade Jermaine for him.

[jeffhardyfan52]

3) The Jermaine O'Neal deal for Shawn Kemp

We traded Jermaine for Dale Davis iirc. I'm not sure if Kemp was a free agent signing or if he was a trade but I'm pretty certain we didn't trade Jermaine for him.

Kemp came to use for brain grant in a 3 team deal i belive
and you are right Oneal was traded for dale davis

[BballFanAddict]

I just read another article that rumors CP3 IS available for trade. It was an article on ESPN rumors from a New Jersey Nets perspective about keeping Harris.

You have to at least wonder if there is smoke there could be fire.

I just have this crazy intuituion it's Paul we are chasing but other teams are in the mix too; meanwhile NO could want Pryz and or Aldridge, which would delay a trade until after the 1st.

It would be a total heartbreak to see that kid traded to a team not named Trail Blazers. But, you have to believe IF he is in the market 29 teams will be putting their best offers up.

[EGame]

If so throw everything New Orleans way. Aldridge, Batum, Rudy, Bayless, Miller, Pryz, one million draft picks and $100,000,000 dollars out of Paul Allens' wallet. Roy and Oden stay, however.

[DusterBuster]

I just read another article that rumors CP3 IS available for trade. It was an article on ESPN rumors from a New Jersey Nets perspective about keeping Harris.

You have to at least wonder if there is smoke there could be fire.

I just have this crazy intuituion it's Paul we are chasing but other teams are in the mix too; meanwhile NO could want Pryz and or Aldridge, which would delay a trade until after the 1st.

It would be a total heartbreak to see that kid traded to a team not named Trail Blazers. But, you have to believe IF he is in the market 29 teams will be putting their best offers up.

Not necessarily. When it comes to trading or trading for PG's, you have to consider just how overloaded the NBA is with quality PG's right now. Granted, over half of the NBA would be making a big push for him, but there is a decent amount of teams that wouldn't also. Celtics and Jazz come to mind as 2 teams who wouldn't trade for Paul because of the quality of PG they already have. Then you've got the teams who are absolutely in love with their young PG's; Bulls, Bucks, Warriors, Thunder, (now) Wizards, Kings and maybe Houston. So you got 8 or 9 teams that likely wouldn't be in the hunt for Paul. Then you have to consider salaries and ownership. Because if Paul is available, whatever team trades for him is going to have to take Okafor or Posey with him AND they have to be able to throw a max contract at Paul in the near future. That's going to knock out cheapskates owners/teams like the Sixers, Hawks and maybe Suns. Then the team has to have favorable contracts and young players that the Hornets would be interested in, so that knocks out teams like the; Raptors, Bobcats and Cavs.

I still have such an amazingly hard time imaging the Hornets trading Paul, if they are, the Blazers thankfully won't be competing against the ENTIRE league for his services. Just half the league.

[jeffhardyfan52]

Id happly take okafor with chris paul
I think he could do some good for us
and can at least fill the whole at PF if we do send LMA in the deal

[DusterBuster]

If so throw everything New Orleans way. Aldridge, Batum, Rudy, Bayless, Miller, Pryz, one million draft picks and $100,000,000 dollars out of Paul Allens' wallet. Roy and Oden stay, however.

I disagree. I say throw everything but Roy at them. If we can get Okafor, I say offer up Oden too.

Oden
Batum
Miller
Przybilla
Webster

for

Okafor
Paul

The trade checker says that doesn't work, but I'm not sure why. The contracts are nearly identical. Maybe it's just because of Przybilla's year that he has yet to officially exercise. Anyway, Portland ends up losing all of their SF's, but if they draft a SF and throw the MLE at Mike Miller, their roster comes out looking like this.....

Paul/Bayless
Roy/Rudy
Miller/Rookie
Aldridge/Cunningham
Camby/Okafor/Pendergraph

That's a contender imo.

[LicketyBrindle]

Granger......

[jeffhardyfan52]

random

[EGame]

Anything with a Paul/Roy back court is a contender IMO. Whether it would be Aldridge or Oden we keep, it may not matter, both have pros and cons with Aldridge having a bigger pro in that he has proven relatively healthy compared to Oden, but either way Paul would make look like a super star. With that said, crap, we have to keep Rudy, can't we just ship him regardless?

[d-train]

3) The Jermaine O'Neal deal for Shawn Kemp

We traded Jermaine for Dale Davis iirc. I'm not sure if Kemp was a free agent signing or if he was a trade but I'm pretty certain we didn't trade Jermaine for him.

The Kemp trade is really misrepresented. The Kemp trade happened because the Blazers couldn't come to terms on a contract with Grant. Grant wanted huge money and the Heat was positioning themselves to make a big offer to Grant. Kemp cost the Blazers lots of money but keeping Grant would have cost a lot more. The Blazers traded Grant for Kemp and as bad as Kemp was it would have been worse if Grant accepted the contract offer the Blazers made to him. Hindsight reveals the best thing the Blazers could have done was to let Grant walk and take nothing back, but at the time Shawn Kemp looked pretty good.

And, trading O'Neal was a mistake but that has also been misrepresented. At the time the trade was made it was reported by all media outlets that the Blazers got a steal by scoring Davis for O'Neal. However, Whitsitt said the same day the trade was made he didn't want to trade O'Neal but he knew O'Neal was unhappy with playing time and would be a distraction to the team. The reason O'Neal didn't get playing time was because of Dunleavy. The day O'Neal was traded Dunleavy said he wouldn't play O'Neal because he wasn't any good. When the Blazers had injuries to Sabonis and Grant, Dunleavy still wouldn't play O'Neal.