FREE AGENCY 2024

[dckingsfan]

NYK are apparently taking calls on Mitchell Robinson, Maybe Cronin might wake up from his summer slumber and give them a call?

Williams & (1) of Reath, Walker, Banton for Robinson & Dadiet (or Kolek) & 25’ 2nd?

That would be really good for both teams. Then take your time with Robinson and move him at the deadline or next year for additional draft capital. And you are picking up a wing (that can still knock down the 3) and making time for Clingan.

Win, Win. Win for Portland (possibly 2 or 3 SRPs + Dadiet) and time for Clingan. Win for NYK with the instant depth at C.

[Norm2953]

Itd be interesting to see what the Knicks would need after the Towns trade for Robinson makes around $14 million while Williams makes $12

[BlazersBroncos]

Are we 100% sure RWIII is fully healthy? I simply cant see NYK doing a deal like this w/o him proving his health.

That being said - it seems the optimistic timeline for Mitch to be ready is 2025 - so realistically it may be longer. That could help push NYK into considering a deal like this. Additionally - I think RWIII has much more ability to guard PF than Mitch, so he could share the floor better w/ KAT IMO.

I think the simpler deal of RWIII for Robinson + 2-3 SRP is more palatable for NYK. I dont see them including Dadiet and SRP in a deal like this. I would take it personally w/ just SRP.

[dckingsfan]

Are we 100% sure RWIII is fully healthy? I simply cant see NYK doing a deal like this w/o him proving his health.

That being said - it seems the optimistic timeline for Mitch to be ready is 2025 - so realistically it may be longer. That could help push NYK into considering a deal like this. Additionally - I think RWIII has much more ability to guard PF than Mitch, so he could share the floor better w/ KAT IMO.

I think the simpler deal of RWIII for Robinson + 2-3 SRP is more palatable for NYK. I dont see them including Dadiet and SRP in a deal like this. I would take it personally w/ just SRP.

I think that is why you include Reath. And remember, rookies won't see the floor under Thibs. But that would be a choice for NYK that I think they would want.

Robinson + Dadiet + 1 SRP for RWIII + Reath + filler. Since Dadiet is essentially getting a FRP. Actually, even if there isn't a SRP it is fine.

Anyway... I think there is a trade to be had that is good for both teams.

[Walton1one]

Yeah Thibs generally does not play rookies, Dadiet is several? years away. NY is a team going all in to win now, can’t see Dadiet’s inclusion being a barrier to this trade

Williams is the definition of a win now piece, if he is healthy and NY adds him, that would be a major piece to add to their rotation

[dckingsfan]

Yeah Thibs generally does not play rookies, Dadiet is several? years away. NY is a team going all in to win now, can’t see Dadiet’s inclusion being a barrier to this trade

Williams is the definition of a win now piece, if he is healthy and NY adds him, that would be a major piece to add to their rotation

Add to that - I think you just need to sit Robinson for a full season and let him rehab that foot. Also, not the Thibs way.

I think Portland has the time to do both (let Robinson heal and take the time to develop Dadiet (19 years old)).

[Walton1one]

I posted this elsewhere, but NY needs to sign (2) more players to meet the roster minimum and after this deal, they are $3.6 under the 2nd apron, so if they want to fill both of those spots with vets, they will have to find some more salary space somehow.

Trading Williams for Robinson or even Thybulle\Reath for Robinson gets them there.

[dckingsfan]

Sounds like Williams pulled a hammy very recently...

Yeah, wish we could have traded him in the off-season...

[Wizenheimer]

Sounds like Williams pulled a hammy very recently...

Yeah, wish we could have traded him in the off-season...

probably could have for a 2nd rounder or two. The notion the Blazers could have got a 1st for Timelord is loopy

[Walton1one]

Grade 1 sprain, so very minor, nothing to do with the knee.

I agree they should have re-routed him right away and now they are forced to rehabilitate him to get something out of him, not sure if this really affects his trade value or not, other than the optics\narrative about him doesn’t look great

If they can manage to keep him healthy, play/use him sparingly, I still think a team at the deadline could send something back of decent value, but yeah the sooner he is off this team, the better

[BlazersBroncos]

Box score scouting and it looks like this class is off to a decent start - certainly a bit better than most were assuming w/ the talk of how poor the talent pool was.

Matas looks like a freak. Just so big and mobile. I am find w/ Clingan but Buzelis was my top prospect in this draft - that combo of size, mobility and athleticism is just not very common.

[zzaj]

Box score scouting and it looks like this class is off to a decent start - certainly a bit better than most were assuming w/ the talk of how poor the talent pool was.

Matas looks like a freak. Just so big and mobile. I am find w/ Clingan but Buzelis was my top prospect in this draft - that combo of size, mobility and athleticism is just not very common.

I've always liked this last class and think it will go down as a very good class. I just never thought there were those top 3, high-end prospects that were going to come in and be 20/5/5 types right out of the gate. I think actually 2024 is MUCH deeper than 2025, based on what I see in 2025 so far.

I'm still not completely sold on Buzelis (I know you like him). His shooting and just general shot creation feel has always scared me off as a Top 5. CHI getting him at 11 is GREAT though. He certainly has a very high ceiling if the shooting becomes consistent. I love that he went to Chicago, too...

[Norm2953]

Interesting to see what Portland does with Sharpe next summer now that Cade has signed his max
extension.

$224 million/5 for a guy who has played on some really bad teams is a leap of faith to not blame
the player. It' be interesting if Portland can get him on a more team friendly extension if he has
another injury ridden season

[Walton1one]

Box score scouting and it looks like this class is off to a decent start - certainly a bit better than most were assuming w/ the talk of how poor the talent pool was.

Matas looks like a freak. Just so big and mobile. I am find w/ Clingan but Buzelis was my top prospect in this draft - that combo of size, mobility and athleticism is just not very common.

Who has looked good?
Salaun 15-8-3 & 11-1-0
Risacher 18-3-2
Sarr 12-9-3 & 15-3-4
Holland 10-3-4 & 10-6-5
Dillingham 21-1-4
Ware 13-5-1
Knecht 7-1-3 & 16-3-2
Shannon Jr 14-4-5
Dunn 10-4-1 & 9-3-1

2nd rounders POR could have drafted:
Kolek 15-2-5 & 11-1-1
Ajay Mitchell 8-4-3 & 19-2-2
Jaylen Wells 13-2-0
Ighodaro 6-7-4 & 12-4-5

[Walton1one]

Interesting to see what Portland does with Sharpe next summer now that Cade has signed his max
extension.

$224 million/5 for a guy who has played on some really bad teams is a leap of faith to not blame
the player. It' be interesting if Portland can get him on a more team friendly extension if he has
another injury ridden season

Cade Cunningham's career averages are 20-5-6.5, nice steady bump each year
17.4 - 5.5 - 5.6
19.9 - 6.2 -6.0
22.7 - 4.3 - 7.5

Took a good leap in 3pt% (35.5% ) LY as well

Frankly, I am not sure if any player is worth that amount of money, particulary a younger one like Cunningham, but he has shown more than any of our young guys have.

[BlazersBroncos]

Box score scouting and it looks like this class is off to a decent start - certainly a bit better than most were assuming w/ the talk of how poor the talent pool was.

Matas looks like a freak. Just so big and mobile. I am find w/ Clingan but Buzelis was my top prospect in this draft - that combo of size, mobility and athleticism is just not very common.

Who has looked good?
Salaun 15-8-3 & 11-1-0
Risacher 18-3-2
Sarr 12-9-3 & 15-3-4
Holland 10-3-4 & 10-6-5
Dillingham 21-1-4
Ware 13-5-1
Knecht 7-1-3 & 16-3-2
Shannon Jr 14-4-5
Dunn 10-4-1 & 9-3-1

2nd rounders POR could have drafted:
Kolek 15-2-5 & 11-1-1
Ajay Mitchell 8-4-3 & 19-2-2
Jaylen Wells 13-2-0
Ighodaro 6-7-4 & 12-4-5

Salun has been much better than I thought - I was very low on him. Like 8mpg as a rookie low on him - looks skilled enough to be in the CHA rotation this year.
Both PHX rookies have looked like exactly what that team needs - Dunn is hitting his 3's which is insane to me as I was low on him due to a shot I thought would never be there. Oso is showing a well rounded game - like TJD with better shooting range.
Ajay when I watched him looked like a NBA caliber rotation guy on offense - able to pick and get to his spots at a high level. The other OKC rookie Dillon Jones - ANOTHER guy I was low on - looks like a pretty unique player with his size and high offensive feel for the game.
Kolek is showing out and looks like a NBA rotation backup PG from the jump this year. We had a chance to snag him as our backup, or even a hedge on Scoot busting, but opted to basically sell the pick.
Ware continues to produce in a big way whenever given minutes - I didnt think his skill would flash this quickly.

Risacher and Sarr have been decent. You expect the #1 to play at least as well as ZR has. Sarr hasnt really impressed me as he is getting huge minutes to post those stats.

Again - nothing really matters but I wanted to eat some crow on a few guys I was down on that looked good early.

[Norm2953]

Interesting to see what Portland does with Sharpe next summer now that Cade has signed his max
extension.

$224 million/5 for a guy who has played on some really bad teams is a leap of faith to not blame
the player. It' be interesting if Portland can get him on a more team friendly extension if he has
another injury ridden season

Cade Cunningham's career averages are 20-5-6.5, nice steady bump each year
17.4 - 5.5 - 5.6
19.9 - 6.2 -6.0
22.7 - 4.3 - 7.5

Took a good leap in 3pt% (35.5% ) LY as well

Frankly, I am not sure if any player is worth that amount of money, particulary a younger one like Cunningham, but he has shown more than any of our young guys have.

Sharpe will be eligible for a $230 Million/5 extension next summer.

It would be interesting to see what Portland would do if they had a top 5 pick in next year's draft and lost out
on Flagg and Bailey and ended up taking one of the three guards that are assumed to be going in the top 5

[Walton1one]

Yes, Sharpe's contract situation will be interesting, of course injuries last year and now this year make the notion of offering him anywhere in the vicinity of that type of contract extremely risky (I would say foolish).

POR has a club option for next year, which they will undoubtedly pick up and then he is an RFA in 26/27, so they still have at least another year to evaluate, possibly (2) if they let him go to RFA.

The issue comes with next years' draft, strong at the top, where POR should intend to be, and they still have no real clear picture on whether or not Sharpe or Scoot are the long term\franchise pieces that they desperately need, and if they don't have that answer by next years' draft, they better be taking BPA, be it Harper\Edgecome\Traore, or even a guy like Saraf\Gonzalez\Demin).

To make matters worse, given that this is the same type of injury, to the same shoulder, I would not be the least bit surprised if Sharpe misses more time than POR has indicated or worst case scenario he gets shutdown sometime this year for surgery, making POR evaluations even cloudier.

[Walton1one]

UPDATE

Salaun 15-8-3 & 11-1-0 & 13-5-1
Risacher 18-3-2
Sarr 12-9-3 & 15-3-4
Holland 10-3-4 & 10-6-5
Dillingham 21-1-4
Ware 13-5-1
Knecht 7-1-3 & 16-3-2 & 13-8-4
Shannon Jr 14-4-5
Dunn 10-4-1 & 9-3-1
Dillon Jones 23-10-13
J. Tyson 11-6-4

2nd rounders POR could have drafted:
Kolek 15-2-5 & 11-1-1
Ajay Mitchell 8-4-3 & 19-2-2
Jaylen Wells 13-2-0 & 16-6-3
Ighodaro 6-7-4 & 12-4-5

[tblazrdude]

I would not be the least bit surprised if Sharpe misses more time than POR has indicated or worst case scenario he gets shutdown sometime this year for surgery,

I found it a little interesting Sharpe was taking shots at shootaround only a week after the team had him in a sling.

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