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[Walton1one]

Yeah I saw that, wouldn’t put too much stock into it though, seen this before. Who knows though? Maybe POR gets lucky for once and he comes back early m\on schedule.

[BlazersBroncos]

Ayton has shot and made 3 3PT shots this preseason in under 19mpg. It looks like he really has developed into a 3PT shooter.

If this is true, his trade value increases drastically. Notably, I could see NO - lacking any real C, being interested as a 3PT shooting, floor spacing Ayton is a much better fit next to Zion than the Ayton of the past.

Something like Ayton to NO, BI to team X, assets to PDX.

[Wizenheimer]

Ayton has shot and made 3 3PT shots this preseason in under 19mpg. It looks like he really has developed into a 3PT shooter.

If this is true, his trade value increases drastically. Notably, I could see NO - lacking any real C, being interested as a 3PT shooting, floor spacing Ayton is a much better fit next to Zion than the Ayton of the past.

Something like Ayton to NO, BI to team X, assets to PDX.

Nurkic shot 36% from three 2 seasons ago, and the sample size was 119 shots. I don't believe it increased his trade value at all. It was more gimmick than tactical utilization.

Brook Lopez turned into a 3 point shooter, but it was tactical. He needed to clear out of the paint so Giannis could operate. And on the other end of the floor, Lopez was an all-NBA defender and an excellent rim protector. Ayton is not a rim protector or notable defender. Jokic shoots three's but he's also the best high post passer in NBA history and is excellent at setting screens in the high post. Ayton is a poor passer and mediocre screener

I'm unconvinced Ayton has any significant positive value. If it is it's as a rebounder, including on offense, and him camping more often outside the 3 point line diminishes his rebounding opportunities.

IMO, it was a huge mistake to trade for Ayton. He's the opposite of what a C needs to be in the modern NBA. Empty calories on offense and low impact on defense. I think the Blazers are stuck with him and then the big worry is Cronin doubling down on the mistake and giving Ayton another outlandish contract

[dckingsfan]

Ayton has shot and made 3 3PT shots this preseason in under 19mpg. It looks like he really has developed into a 3PT shooter.

If this is true, his trade value increases drastically. Notably, I could see NO - lacking any real C, being interested as a 3PT shooting, floor spacing Ayton is a much better fit next to Zion than the Ayton of the past.

Something like Ayton to NO, BI to team X, assets to PDX.

Nurkic shot 36% from three 2 seasons ago, and the sample size was 119 shots. I don't believe it increased his trade value at all. It was more gimmick than tactical utilization.

Brook Lopez turned into a 3 point shooter, but it was tactical. He needed to clear out of the paint so Giannis could operate. And on the other end of the floor, Lopez was an all-NBA defender and an excellent rim protector. Ayton is not a rim protector or notable defender. Jokic shoots three's but he's also the best high post passer in NBA history and is excellent at setting screens in the high post. Ayton is a poor passer and mediocre screener

I'm unconvinced Ayton has any significant positive value. If it is it's as a rebounder, including on offense, and him camping more often outside the 3 point line diminishes his rebounding opportunities.

IMO, it was a huge mistake to trade for Ayton. He's the opposite of what a C needs to be in the modern NBA. Empty calories on offense and low impact on defense. I think the Blazers are stuck with him and then the big worry is Cronin doubling down on the mistake and giving Ayton another outlandish contract

One thing. Ayton is a good defensive rebounder but not exactly a great defender or rim protector. So... he would need to be much better on offense if he is going to have value.

He did shoot .823 from the FT line last year. So, he could adjust like Lopez. But do we see his ego allowing him to be a corner 3 specialist?

So, violent agreement.

[BlazersBroncos]

Something slightly out of the box regarding moving Thybulle and RWIII - trade exceptions.

For example - if CHI is playing well w/ Ball and Zach back they might be interested in RWIII. They have a 17M trade exception from the DDR trade. I wonder if they would throw 2-3 SRP for RWIII into their trade exception.

Another idea would be Thybulle to MEM or SAC - MEM has a TPE from the Adams trade and SAC has their non-taxpayer MLE (Which can be used as a TPE) - we could get 1-2 SRP and have them absorb Thybulle.

These types of smaller moves would do a ton to open minutes for the kids and save ownership some $$$.

[Wizenheimer]

Something slightly out of the box regarding moving Thybulle and RWIII - trade exceptions.

For example - if CHI is playing well w/ Ball and Zach back they might be interested in RWIII. They have a 17M trade exception from the DDR trade. I wonder if they would throw 2-3 SRP for RWIII into their trade exception.

Another idea would be Thybulle to MEM or SAC - MEM has a TPE from the Adams trade and SAC has their non-taxpayer MLE (Which can be used as a TPE) - we could get 1-2 SRP and have them absorb Thybulle.

These types of smaller moves would do a ton to open minutes for the kids and save ownership some $$$.

I wonder what the actual use rate is for substantial TPE's

Portland used one to land Grant, but the Blazers were obviously building that TPE in the CJ trade. It was specific for Grant, not speculative

but since then, Portland has allowed 3 substantial TPE's to expire because of their mismanaged cap/tax situation. They were all in the 8.5-8.8M range; TPE's for the Payton, Hart, and Dame trades. They currently have a 6.9M TPE for the Brogdon/Avdija trade, but considering they are 3.6M below the tax-line odds are Portland will let that TPE expire as well

[BlazersBroncos]

Something slightly out of the box regarding moving Thybulle and RWIII - trade exceptions.

For example - if CHI is playing well w/ Ball and Zach back they might be interested in RWIII. They have a 17M trade exception from the DDR trade. I wonder if they would throw 2-3 SRP for RWIII into their trade exception.

Another idea would be Thybulle to MEM or SAC - MEM has a TPE from the Adams trade and SAC has their non-taxpayer MLE (Which can be used as a TPE) - we could get 1-2 SRP and have them absorb Thybulle.

These types of smaller moves would do a ton to open minutes for the kids and save ownership some $$$.

I wonder what the actual use rate is for substantial TPE's

Portland used one to land Grant, but the Blazers were obviously building that TPE in the CJ trade. It was specific for Grant, not speculative

but since then, Portland has allowed 3 substantial TPE's to expire because of their mismanaged cap/tax situation. They were all in the 8.5-8.8M range; TPE's for the Payton, Hart, and Dame trades. They currently have a 6.9M TPE for the Brogdon/Avdija trade, but considering they are 3.6M below the tax-line odds are Portland will let that TPE expire as well

Ya a rebuild team with a good GM (Presit for example) would have avoided paying guys like RWIII and MT and instead used those TPE to help another teams cap burden in return for assets. I bet DEN would have paid a good amount of SRP to turn Nnaji into a TPE for example.