Portland - 2016 Offseason

[tester551]

I'd say it's more likely that if Portland traded that Cleveland pick, to Boston for instance, they might be able to get the 31st pick this year and a future 2nd. Or maybe they could get the 23rd pick if they traded the Cleveland 1st + a future 2nd + cash

I think they could get #31 + #45 for this year.

If Portland does Cleveland pick + cash, they could get #23 + #45.

[Wizenheimer]

I'd say it's more likely that if Portland traded that Cleveland pick, to Boston for instance, they might be able to get the 31st pick this year and a future 2nd. Or maybe they could get the 23rd pick if they traded the Cleveland 1st + a future 2nd + cash

I think they could get #31 + #45 for this year.

If Portland does Cleveland pick + cash, they could get #23 + #45.

I'm not sure why the Blazers would want 2 draft picks this year, but if they could get that for the Cle pick that would be great. I'm skeptical, but we'll see.

I think for the purpose of possible future trades, the Blazers would be better off having a future 1st instead of the 45th this year

[Norm2953]

If I were Portland, I would approach Denver to see what it would take to allow Portland
to keep their pick (19) and wait until next season for what do they need first round
picks for?

[Downtown]

I'm not impressed with Mozgov. IMO, he's not that good, and that's taking into account he could have a bad role for him in Cleveland

if that's the route Portland takes at C, I'd much rather they go after Cole Aldrich then Mozgov. Aldrich looks like a true big-man-C. Here's a comparison between Aldridh, Mozgov, & Plumlee:

Like I said, not Mozgov specifically, but someone like him. Aldrich fits the same bill and if the stats bear out that he's better then that's great. Keep Plumlee and have a physical big body behind him.

I'm just trying to be realistic about the centre position. In my mind the likes Of Howard, Whiteside, and Horford aren't realistic. And from everything I read Biyombo is going to stay in Toronto unless there's a huge overpay, which I don't see Olshey doing for Plumlee's backup.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Ryan Anderson to fill the PF position. He fits the team concept of 3 point shooting and not good defense. Ramon Sessions to be the 3rd guard and defensive guard. Resign Harkless and maybe Henderson. I'd rather have Crabbe's shooting, but he was so friggin inconsistent as the year went on. If you can't get Henderson, then sign Crabbe.

Lillard/Sessions/Montero
McCollum/Henderson or Crabbe/Connaughton
Harkless/Aminu/
Anderson/Vonleh
Plumlee/Davis

Kinda need another big man unless you play Aminu at he backup PF position. Would still like a defensive center though.

[Jsun947]

If we don't renounce any free agents and miss out on the Horfords, Whitesides, etc I would be ok with signing Aldrich to a reasonable contract. I was super impressed with him in the playoffs.

Collecting young players on tradable long term contracts that can become enourmous values is what Olshey has been going for.

[Dame Lizard]

I agree on the Cole Aldrich front, I'd be extremely happy if we signed him. He'd be a pretty classic Olshey signing was well imo.

I always thought that the 2018 CLE 1st would be good value for us to trade for a late 2016 first, if a team wanted to get out of one of their picks, so hopefully we can put it to use to get a 2016 first rounder.

[JasonStern]

If I were Portland, I would approach Denver to see what it would take to allow Portland
to keep their pick (19) and wait until next season for what do they need first round
picks for?

that's a terrible idea. Portland has few assets to trade, this draft is projected to be mediocre, and there's a reasonable chance that the Blazers will do worse next season than this season.

[Case2012]

You never know what can happen in 2 years. I'd rather hang on to the pick unless we used it to acquire someone in a trade that helped put us in contention this year. Otherwise, depending on the protections, it could be a lottery pick 2 years from now. Crazier things have happened.

[Jsun947]

This is just my thought and opinion

I think a lot of good teams are going to handicap themselves with 3 max players, whether it's signing a free agent, or resigning a RFA, or retaining an existing player, then find out they are so hamstrung that they can't add enough depth or versatility to their roster to continue being competitive.

Just as some examples, Jordan+Paul+Griffin, Westbrook+Durant+Ibaka, Love+Lebron+Irving... Once they are over the cap they have to over pay to retain their surrounding players such as Reddick, Jeff Green, Crawford, Tristan Thompson, JR Smith, Delevadova, Adams, Waiters, Kanter etc. etc.

guys on rookie deals are valuable because their salary is so low vs the salary cap and because you can retain them during RFA. The problem with rookie players is that most of them ant contribute at a high level and they take time to develop.

The next most valuable contracts will be solid, young rotation players on long term deals. Would you rather have Aldrich+Aminu+Crowder or a guy like Kanter?

When a team like OKC finds themselves having to trade a player like Ibaka because of luxury taxes a deal like that may be just what they are looking for.

[Brandon-Clyde]

You never know what can happen in 2 years. I'd rather hang on to the pick unless we used it to acquire someone in a trade that helped put us in contention this year. Otherwise, depending on the protections, it could be a lottery pick 2 years from now. Crazier things have happened.

The pick is top 10 protected

[Butter]

This is just my thought and opinion

I think a lot of good teams are going to handicap themselves with 3 max players, whether it's signing a free agent, or resigning a RFA, or retaining an existing player, then find out they are so hamstrung that they can't add enough depth or versatility to their roster to continue being competitive.

Just as some examples, Jordan+Paul+Griffin, Westbrook+Durant+Ibaka, Love+Lebron+Irving... Once they are over the cap they have to over pay to retain their surrounding players such as Reddick, Jeff Green, Crawford, Tristan Thompson, JR Smith, Delevadova, Adams, Waiters, Kanter etc. etc.

guys on rookie deals are valuable because their salary is so low vs the salary cap and because you can retain them during RFA. The problem with rookie players is that most of them ant contribute at a high level and they take time to develop.

The next most valuable contracts will be solid, young rotation players on long term deals. Would you rather have Aldrich+Aminu+Crowder or a guy like Kanter?

When a team like OKC finds themselves having to trade a player like Ibaka because of luxury taxes a deal like that may be just what they are looking for.

Man, how great would that be to get Ibaka?

[Soulyss]

Ibaka would be a perfect fit, and would being in Portland would give him what he wants which is a bigger role in the offense. He's slowly being marginalised by Adams and Kanter.

I wonder if Portland could give up something like Cleveland 1st + Vonleh for him?

[Norm2953]

A team like OKC is not going to do anything if they lose Durant but they do face a future of
perhaps losing Durant this year and Westbrook next season. Their future might all depend
on beating the GSW and going on to beat Cleveland for a championship.

[Case2012]

You never know what can happen in 2 years. I'd rather hang on to the pick unless we used it to acquire someone in a trade that helped put us in contention this year. Otherwise, depending on the protections, it could be a lottery pick 2 years from now. Crazier things have happened.

The pick is top 10 protected

Aren't there 14 picks in the lottery?

[Case2012]

Ibaka would be a perfect fit, and would being in Portland would give him what he wants which is a bigger role in the offense. He's slowly being marginalised by Adams and Kanter.

I wonder if Portland could give up something like Cleveland 1st + Vonleh for him?

Ibaka has more value than that, we'd need to add another future first at least.

[Brandon-Clyde]

You never know what can happen in 2 years. I'd rather hang on to the pick unless we used it to acquire someone in a trade that helped put us in contention this year. Otherwise, depending on the protections, it could be a lottery pick 2 years from now. Crazier things have happened.

The pick is top 10 protected

Aren't there 14 picks in the lottery?

Yes but I was merely telling you the protection. Now what would you say the odds of Cleveland being in the lottery 2 years from now? Not strong unless Lebron leaves again and if that happens that pick is likely top 10 IMO

[DusterBuster]

You never know what can happen in 2 years. I'd rather hang on to the pick unless we used it to acquire someone in a trade that helped put us in contention this year. Otherwise, depending on the protections, it could be a lottery pick 2 years from now. Crazier things have happened.

The pick is top 10 protected

Aren't there 14 picks in the lottery?

The Cleveland pick isn't full lottery protected. Only Top 10 protected. That's actually a relatively decent trade chip as the likelihood of it being conveyed to whatever team holds it is pretty high.

[Case2012]

No one caught my joke.

[B0naf1d3]

Is a sign-and-trade involving Crabbe to OKC for Ibaka in the realm of possibilities? Might be the only way for them to add the starting SG they've been looking for. I think it's close in value and helps both teams out. Just a thought.