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Re: Woj: Hassan Whiteside for Meyers & Mo 

Post#61 » by GreenRiddler » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:18 pm

Sinobas wrote:I wonder how much Meyers playoff performance vs GS helped his trade value?

They gave money to Kelly Olynk. So they like slow moving shooting bigs.
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Re: Woj: Hassan Whiteside for Meyers & Mo 

Post#62 » by DusterBuster » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:22 pm

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BigLurch92 wrote:Is Portland looking at decent cap space next summer? (Not that it will get us tip-tier FAs)


That's a good question, I have no idea what Portland's cap looks like next summer assuming they just keep all their EC's and let them expire.

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I just posted about that in the offseason thread.. Yeah, they should have a good chunk of change to throw around

Fitz303 wrote:Right now the Blazers are going to be looking at substantial salary cap space next year. I know I know, Portland and cap space doesn't work. However, if nothing else, its a great tool for trades (i.e. the AD trade). If Hood and Hezonja both opt out next season, as I would imagine they will, the Blazer will be looking at having a roster of:

Dame
CJ
Nurk
Collins
Simons
Trent Jr
Little
2020 1st rd pick

....and about 21 Million in cap space. Collins, Little, and the 1st rd pick should be able to absorb a max contract type player (assuming one comes available). If nobody becomes available in a blockbuster deal, re-sign Hood, and build up some 2nd unit depth. All in all, things are finally looking up now that 2016 is in the rear view mirror


If this summer has proven anything, it's that fans on RealGM worry way more about cap specifics than actual GM's do. Real GM's go out and negotiate with FA's regardless if their team has the cap space, then they try and find ways to make the room after the player says they want to come there. That's the new NBA FA period.

So yeah, if Portland has the cap space opened, they can basically negotiate with anyone and then once a deal is agreed to, then they can find ways to open up any extra salary space they need.

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Re: Woj: Hassan Whiteside for Meyers & Mo 

Post#63 » by skoharry » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:45 pm

i love it and it's a trade that i already posted in the trades section. but it makes me wonder what we are going to do about the backup PG spot, starting PF, and layman?
I think we should resign layman to backup PF spot, trade a 2nd round pick for nkilitina, and look at jabari parker, marcus morris, kaminsky, marquess chris, jamychael green, or bring back vonleh with how he improved in NY. my top 3 picks would be kaminsky, morris, or parker. I think a lineup of
Dame/Nkilitina/simmons
CJ/hezonja/Trent JR
Hood/Bazemore/Little
Morris/Layman/Colllins
Whiteside/Collins(until nurk comes back)/Skal

I like it
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Re: Woj: Hassan Whiteside for Meyers & Mo 

Post#64 » by Norm2953 » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:51 pm

I've been enthused about Whiteside more about giving the Blazers major options next summer.
They could conceivably have Whiteside, Bazemore, Hood coming off their books and might
have a very desireable expiring contract in CJ to pursue a better second option for Dame.
They certainly have the pieces to get anyone in the league if they chose to.
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Re: Woj: Hassan Whiteside for Meyers & Mo 

Post#66 » by GreenRiddler » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:53 pm

Norm2953 wrote:I've been enthused about Whiteside more about giving the Blazers major options next summer.
They could conceivably have Whiteside, Bazemore, Hood coming off their books and might
have a very desireable expiring contract in CJ to pursue a better second option for Dame.
They certainly have the pieces to get anyone in the league if they chose to.

That's weird do teams often trade away better players for lesser? 0% chance we are trading McCollum. We gonna give him an extension next summer.
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Re: Woj: Hassan Whiteside for Meyers & Mo 

Post#67 » by GreenRiddler » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:54 pm

skoharry wrote:i love it and it's a trade that i already posted in the trades section. but it makes me wonder what we are going to do about the backup PG spot, starting PF, and layman?
I think we should resign layman to backup PF spot, trade a 2nd round pick for nkilitina, and look at jabari parker, marcus morris, kaminsky, marquess chris, jamychael green, or bring back vonleh with how he improved in NY. my top 3 picks would be kaminsky, morris, or parker. I think a lineup of
Dame/Nkilitina/simmons
CJ/hezonja/Trent JR
Hood/Bazemore/Little
Morris/Layman/Colllins
Whiteside/Collins(until nurk comes back)/Skal

I like it

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Re: Woj: Hassan Whiteside for Meyers & Mo 

Post#68 » by BlazersBroncos » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:00 pm

Simons as a Junior in HS was better and more NBA ready than Nkilitina. No way he would have the backup spot over him.

I think we should court Kyle O'Quinn as our backup C and call it a day. Give Zach 26-28mpg at PF and see if he is the answer. He needs to be developed there. Nurkic being out makes it easy to just pencil him in at backup C, but long term his only spot on this team is PF, and that's where we need to see him this upcoming season.

I also hope we start Kent to balance the lineup. Hood is the only shot creator we could have off the bench anyways. I hope we promised him lots of PT rather than a starting spot at SF.
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Post#69 » by plyrically » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:00 pm

Ant is our backup PG and Collins is our starting PF just watch the exit interviews (incl Chief’a) and do the math.
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Post#70 » by Wizenheimer » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:29 pm

Fitz303 wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
BigLurch92 wrote:Is Portland looking at decent cap space next summer? (Not that it will get us tip-tier FAs)


That's a good question, I have no idea what Portland's cap looks like next summer assuming they just keep all their EC's and let them expire.

*Paging Wiz, Cap Help Aisle 7*


I just posted about that in the offseason thread.. Yeah, they should have a good chunk of change to throw around

Fitz303 wrote:Right now the Blazers are going to be looking at substantial salary cap space next year. I know I know, Portland and cap space doesn't work. However, if nothing else, its a great tool for trades (i.e. the AD trade). If Hood and Hezonja both opt out next season, as I would imagine they will, the Blazer will be looking at having a roster of:

Dame
CJ
Nurk
Collins
Simons
Trent Jr
Little
2020 1st rd pick

....and about 21 Million in cap space. Collins, Little, and the 1st rd pick should be able to absorb a max contract type player (assuming one comes available). If nobody becomes available in a blockbuster deal, re-sign Hood, and build up some 2nd unit depth. All in all, things are finally looking up now that 2016 is in the rear view mirror


good job...somewhere in the 20M range assuming they renounce all their players....which I don't think they'd do. Hood's cap-hold would be about 10M. Bazemore's would wipe the rest out.

this will give Portland an opportunity to do a bit of a roster re-set a year before Dame's super-max. If they don't make any trades they can also likely avoid tax that year and punt the threat of repeater tax a year further down the road
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Re: Woj: Hassan Whiteside for Meyers & Mo 

Post#71 » by Masterfully » Mon Jul 1, 2019 10:08 pm

Let’s just say Whiteside is a hit in Portland AND he’s comfortable with splitting minutes with Nurk... will Portland have full bird rights next summer?
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Post#72 » by d-train » Mon Jul 1, 2019 10:15 pm

Masterfully wrote:Let’s just say Whiteside is a hit in Portland AND he’s comfortable with splitting minutes with Nurk... will Portland have full bird rights next summer?

Yes, Blazers have full bird rights
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Post#73 » by d-train » Mon Jul 1, 2019 10:17 pm

The reason we didn't have full bird rights on Hood is he was playing on a QO.
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Post#74 » by Steal by Bird » Mon Jul 1, 2019 11:27 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:Simons as a Junior in HS was better and more NBA ready than Nkilitina. No way he would have the backup spot over him.

I think we should court Kyle O'Quinn as our backup C and call it a day. Give Zach 26-28mpg at PF and see if he is the answer. He needs to be developed there. Nurkic being out makes it easy to just pencil him in at backup C, but long term his only spot on this team is PF, and that's where we need to see him this upcoming season.

I also hope we start Kent to balance the lineup. Hood is the only shot creator we could have off the bench anyways. I hope we promised him lots of PT rather than a starting spot at SF.


Bazemore complements the blazers guards well, good 3 and D guy.

For the life me I cant understand the Celtics not perusing O Quinn. Solid and tuff on D, no drama, still only 29 and not beat up. His career per 36 min numbers are pretty good, very similar to Deandre Jordan and can be had for a good value. Nuts not to grab him.
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Re: Woj: Hassan Whiteside for Meyers & Mo 

Post#75 » by Pattycakes » Mon Jul 1, 2019 11:41 pm

Would have done every thing possible to keep Kanter but this off-season is shaping up pretty nicely... Hood/Little/Bazemore/Whiteside should all be key members of a strong run
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Post#76 » by DusterBuster » Mon Jul 1, 2019 11:47 pm

Pattycakes wrote:Would have done every thing possible to keep Kanter but this off-season is shaping up pretty nicely... Hood/Little/Bazemore/Whiteside should all be key members of a strong run


Quick straight up called Kanter a dramaqueen. As great as he was in that short stint, I have to wonder if his act wouldn't have wore thin for a full season or two.

Hood apparently told the Blazers he wants back even at the MLE and didn't even bother looking for another contract according to Quick. I think Hood was the right pick of the two for a number of on-the-court reasons, but I like it even more now that it looks like Rodney may be the SF starter.
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Post#77 » by DaVoiceMaster » Mon Jul 1, 2019 11:50 pm

Can Nurk and Whiteside play together for say 5-10 minutes per game?
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Post#78 » by Blazinaway » Mon Jul 1, 2019 11:59 pm

Steal by Bird wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:Simons as a Junior in HS was better and more NBA ready than Nkilitina. No way he would have the backup spot over him.

I think we should court Kyle O'Quinn as our backup C and call it a day. Give Zach 26-28mpg at PF and see if he is the answer. He needs to be developed there. Nurkic being out makes it easy to just pencil him in at backup C, but long term his only spot on this team is PF, and that's where we need to see him this upcoming season.

I also hope we start Kent to balance the lineup. Hood is the only shot creator we could have off the bench anyways. I hope we promised him lots of PT rather than a starting spot at SF.


Bazemore complements the blazers guards well, good 3 and D guy.

For the life me I cant understand the Celtics not perusing O Quinn. Solid and tuff on D, no drama, still only 29 and not beat up. His career per 36 min numbers are pretty good, very similar to Deandre Jordan and can be had for a good value. Nuts not to grab him.

yeah, he would seem like a solid add
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Post#80 » by Pattycakes » Tue Jul 2, 2019 12:24 am

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Pattycakes wrote:Would have done every thing possible to keep Kanter but this off-season is shaping up pretty nicely... Hood/Little/Bazemore/Whiteside should all be key members of a strong run


Quick straight up called Kanter a dramaqueen. As great as he was in that short stint, I have to wonder if his act wouldn't have wore thin for a full season or two.

Hood apparently told the Blazers he wants back even at the MLE and didn't even bother looking for another contract according to Quick. I think Hood was the right pick of the two for a number of on-the-court reasons, but I like it even more now that it looks like Rodney may be the SF starter.


I really could care less about a random media personalitys opinion vs the eye test, but regardless our starting center is probably the biggest complainer in the game so that seems manageable. Kanter was our X factor many a time in that short stint, I think his loss is under valued.
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