Summer League

Walton1one · Post #61 » by **Walton1one** » Mon Jul 15, 2024 1:17 am

So apparently it was POR mgmt who asked Scoot not to play in summer league. If so, why?

As long as Ant is on the team, Scoot will be playing limited minutes \coming off the bench. So no need to hold him out of summer league, I mean Miller\Podz play more\meaningful minutes and they are playing? Just an odd decision, unless something is up with Ant.

I mean why hold out your backup PG, who struggled LY?

Waynearchetype · Post #62 » by **Waynearchetype** » Mon Jul 15, 2024 4:17 pm

Walton1one wrote:So apparently it was POR mgmt who asked Scoot not to play in summer league. If so, why?

As long as Ant is on the team, Scoot will be playing limited minutes \coming off the bench. So no need to hold him out of summer league, I mean Miller\Podz play more\meaningful minutes and they are playing? Just an odd decision, unless something is up with Ant.

I mean why hold out your backup PG, who struggled LY?

Haven't seen this anywhere

PDXKnight · Post #63 » by **PDXKnight** » Mon Jul 15, 2024 9:17 pm

I'm not sure what to make of this but a week ago they were discussing scoot not playing on 750 the game and hinting at he's doing workouts and using his time productively and perhaps either he or the Blazers thought he'd be best served continuing what he was doing rather than head down to the sl. The sl is basically scrimmage anyhow so I'm not too offended by him playing. It's good exposure for rookies no doubt but year 2 and 3 there's not much to gain and potential for injury

Norm2953 · Post #64 » by **Norm2953** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:23 am

Nothing beats live competition, even if its the SL.

Brandon Miller after playing on the select team, elected to play in game 1 of the SL for Charlotte

zzaj · Post #65 » by **zzaj** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:00 am

Nice to see Clingan make his defensive presence felt in the middle, and some nice passing. So far he's shown zero touch offensively, though...

EDIT: As soon as I post, back to back touch buckets by Clingan. Nice.

zzaj · Post #66 » by **zzaj** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:26 am

Overunder on the date that Murray signs in China?

zzaj · Post #67 » by **zzaj** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:27 am

Dude might be dealing with the yips or something. Looks brutal.

cdubbz · Post #68 » by **cdubbz** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:39 am

clingan with the nice euro step then got stuffed by bona!

few trips later he stuffs it down. love it. He does look like he's running on quick sand though.

cdubbz · Post #69 » by **cdubbz** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:45 am

Jared McCain knows how to hoop man. Wasn't sure about him other than shooting but he looks comfortable out there.

cdubbz · Post #70 » by **cdubbz** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:57 am

zzaj wrote:Overunder on the date that Murray signs in China?

Trade him to Sac. their fans werr obsessed with pairing them during the draft.

cdubbz · Post #71 » by **cdubbz** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:20 am

Clingan wasn't a strong rebounder at Uconn and he still is not. I've seen a lot of boards slip off his finger tips & him getting pushed out of position. He needs to strengthen his lower body and bully people.

overreaction: I may have been wrong about Clingan.

cdubbz · Post #72 » by **cdubbz** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:25 am

Clingan gaurding the inbounds and getting a 5second violation was great to see. he was jumping around like a kid would do to stop all angles.

BlazersBroncos · Post #73 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:31 am

cdubbz wrote:Clingan wasn't a strong rebounder at Uconn and he still is not. I've seen a lot of boards slip off his finger tips & him getting pushed out of position. He needs to strengthen his lower body and bully people.

overreaction: I may have been wrong about Clingan.

He has 15 and 11 boards through 2 games. I would say he is rebounding better than expected.

Guy is a monster on defense. Offense has a long way to go. But the kid is one of the tall dudes that plays ball bc he loves ball, not bc he is tall. He wants to win and plays hard. Even if he doesn’t improve at all from this point he should be rotation worthy defensive specialist. And I would be shocked if he doesn’t improve.

zzaj · Post #74 » by **zzaj** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:35 am

Nice to see the high BBIQ from Clingan...doing a bit of everything. Team was much, much better with him on the court. Changed a ton of shots tonight, which is exactly what he should be doing.

I give him a pass on the 3, lol.

Murray is too old to be two years away from being good.

zzaj · Post #75 » by **zzaj** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:36 am

cdubbz wrote:Clingan gaurding the inbounds and getting a 5second violation was great to see. he was jumping around like a kid would do to stop all angles.

He focuses on boxing out, which often means you're not in the best position for a rebound. Not concerned at all about his rebounding long-term...

Post #76 » by **DeBlazerRiddem** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:42 am

He's big and stays in rebounding position and is going against summer leaguers but he doesnt have the magnet hands of a great rebounder. Good rebounders on other teams are going to get ones that he should get because he does kind of bobble contested rebounds.

Oh my god seeing him try to put the ball on the floor was brutal. It seems when the ball swings to him he immediately looks to pass (and makes some good ones) but if it isn't there he doesn't have the patience or the footwork to let something else develop around him and seems to often panic into a poor shot.

Still great at taking up space and staying disciplined and vertical on defense tho. Which will buy him a few years, but come year 3 if he hasn't developed some offensive skills then it won't be enough to justify the high pick.

BlazersBroncos · Post #77 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:42 am

Kris should have been shipped to SAC for some future SRP and we should have used one of our SRP.

After this year I bet it will cost a SRP or at minimum cash to move off him.

He isn’t an NBA player. Full stop. If he develops into a rotation guy I will eat a shoe.

BlazersBroncos · Post #78 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:45 am

I am usually pretty pessimistic but I am shocked on some of the Clingon takes.

I mean we can talk about how his 3 isn’t real but no one has mentioned 5 assist. Or the blocks, or all the shots he altered at the rim.

I think he has looked great. He will be an advanced stats darling and the +/- already shows that.

zzaj · Post #79 » by **zzaj** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:59 am

DeBlazerRiddem wrote:…but come year 3 if he hasn't developed some offensive skills then it won't be enough to justify the high pick.

Yeah, I disagree with this. Maybe in a draft that is stacked at the top-end, but not this year.

He’ll hopefully grow as a rebounder, and likely the majority of his offense is going to be at the rim…but you have to factor in who he’s playing with at the guard spots right now.

IMO in 3 years if he’s averaging 10-12 points a game and a similar number of rebounds, continues has facilitation and smart play, AND continues to build on the level of defense we’ve seen so far, he’s quite easily great value at #7 in this draft.

Post #80 » by **DeBlazerRiddem** » Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:25 am

zzaj wrote:
DeBlazerRiddem wrote:…but come year 3 if he hasn't developed some offensive skills then it won't be enough to justify the high pick.

Yeah, I disagree with this. Maybe in a draft that is stacked at the top-end, but not this year.

He’ll hopefully grow as a rebounder, and likely the majority of his offense is going to be at the rim…but you have to factor in who he’s playing with at the guard spots right now.

IMO in 3 years if he’s averaging 10-12 points a game and a similar number of rebounds, continues has facilitation and smart play, AND continues to build on the level of defense we’ve seen so far, he’s quite easily great value at #7 in this draft.

Maybe I'm a bit harsh, and I'm certainly not betting against him improving, that wasn't my meaning.

I'm more getting at a philosophy that these days either you want an elite center or you want a cheap guy that hustles and just plays defense. Paying the extension on a 7th pick who is mostly a defense and hustle player is not great strategy, as you can get most of that production from a much cheaper role playing veteran.

Of course if Clingan ends up being a Rudy Gobert level elite defender it will all be ok, it's just hard for me to project that kind of development on him. It's possible just not counting that chicken before it hatches.