2024 NBA Draft (euro season, college season, scouting, prospects etc)

[elias808]

Im starting to get on board with Dalton at 7 and Edey at 14. Two players that can in theory help immediately and in the long term. Swing for the fences in next years draft where, as it stands now, there’s a plethora of high impact players.

[Butter]

Im starting to get on board with Dalton at 7 and Edey at 14. Two players that can in theory help immediately and in the long term. Swing for the fences in next years draft where, as it stands now, there’s a plethora of high impact players.

I'll be disappointed if they don't swing for upgrading the PF spot this draft. Admittedly there are no clear cut answers, but between Matas and Salaun, I'd love to see a stretch four who can be a part of their core.

[elias808]

Im starting to get on board with Dalton at 7 and Edey at 14. Two players that can in theory help immediately and in the long term. Swing for the fences in next years draft where, as it stands now, there’s a plethora of high impact players.

I'll be disappointed if they don't swing for upgrading the PF spot this draft. Admittedly there are no clear cut answers, but between Matas and Salaun, I'd love to see a stretch four who can be a part of their core.

Yeah I get that. I just don’t think there is a PF I believe in in this draft. Salaun in theory has a ton of upside and the frame to be legit, but is as raw as it gets. I’m just not a believer in Matas. I know the Ignite was a dumpster fire last year, but he really looked bad. Maybe a PG like Scoot can create open shots for him?

[Butter]

Im starting to get on board with Dalton at 7 and Edey at 14. Two players that can in theory help immediately and in the long term. Swing for the fences in next years draft where, as it stands now, there’s a plethora of high impact players.

I'll be disappointed if they don't swing for upgrading the PF spot this draft. Admittedly there are no clear cut answers, but between Matas and Salaun, I'd love to see a stretch four who can be a part of their core.

Yeah I get that. I just don’t think there is a PF I believe in in this draft. Salaun in theory has a ton of upside and the frame to be legit, but is as raw as it gets. I’m just not a believer in Matas. I know the Ignite was a dumpster fire last year, but he really looked bad. Maybe a PG like Scoot can create open shots for him?

I am really hoping for Salaun. I'm fine if he takes a few years to fill out his frame and mature as a ball player.

[zzaj]

Im starting to get on board with Dalton at 7 and Edey at 14. Two players that can in theory help immediately and in the long term. Swing for the fences in next years draft where, as it stands now, there’s a plethora of high impact players.

I'll be disappointed if they don't swing for upgrading the PF spot this draft. Admittedly there are no clear cut answers, but between Matas and Salaun, I'd love to see a stretch four who can be a part of their core.

Yeah I get that. I just don’t think there is a PF I believe in in this draft. Salaun in theory has a ton of upside and the frame to be legit, but is as raw as it gets. I’m just not a believer in Matas. I know the Ignite was a dumpster fire last year, but he really looked bad. Maybe a PG like Scoot can create open shots for him?

Well, considering he only shot 29% on wide open threes...maybe that's not such a good thing.
He's had 1 mediocre year in the last 4 as a 3pt shooter. The rest have been terrible.

[elias808]

I'll be disappointed if they don't swing for upgrading the PF spot this draft. Admittedly there are no clear cut answers, but between Matas and Salaun, I'd love to see a stretch four who can be a part of their core.

Yeah I get that. I just don’t think there is a PF I believe in in this draft. Salaun in theory has a ton of upside and the frame to be legit, but is as raw as it gets. I’m just not a believer in Matas. I know the Ignite was a dumpster fire last year, but he really looked bad. Maybe a PG like Scoot can create open shots for him?

Well, considering he only shot 29% on wide open threes...maybe that's not such a good thing.
He's had 1 mediocre year in the last 4 as a 3pt shooter. The rest have been terrible.

Who are you referring to exactly?

[zzaj]

Yeah I get that. I just don’t think there is a PF I believe in in this draft. Salaun in theory has a ton of upside and the frame to be legit, but is as raw as it gets. I’m just not a believer in Matas. I know the Ignite was a dumpster fire last year, but he really looked bad. Maybe a PG like Scoot can create open shots for him?

Well, considering he only shot 29% on wide open threes...maybe that's not such a good thing.
He's had 1 mediocre year in the last 4 as a 3pt shooter. The rest have been terrible.

Who are you referring to exactly?

Matas...sorry I was referring to your last 3 sentences--I agree with you. Matas has very high 'bust' potential at #7.

[Walton1one]

Salaun could go top 5, apparently he has impressed in workouts. I would hope POR considers him at #7

Prototypical size with good athleticism and has a great motor, even if he struggles with his shooting to start out, those tools will make him a very useful player out on the floor just doing a lot of the hustle plays, reminds me when Jerome Kersey was drafted by Portland, did not have a great shot, although that came around in later years, but when he was on the floor, he did all of the other little things, defense rebounding, hustle points that Is what I imagine the low end/floor of Salaun could be

[Butter]

Salaun could go top 5, apparently he has impressed in workouts. I would hope POR considers him at #7

Prototypical size with good athleticism and has a great motor, even if he struggles with his shooting to start out, those tools will make him a very useful player out on the floor just doing a lot of the hustle plays, reminds me when Jerome Kersey was drafted by Portland, did not have a great shot, although that came around in later years, but when he was on the floor, he did all of the other little things, defense rebounding, hustle points that Is what I imagine the low end/floor of Salaun could be

Salaun has been my choice from the start.

[zzaj]

Salaun could go top 5, apparently he has impressed in workouts. I would hope POR considers him at #7

Prototypical size with good athleticism and has a great motor, even if he struggles with his shooting to start out, those tools will make him a very useful player out on the floor just doing a lot of the hustle plays, reminds me when Jerome Kersey was drafted by Portland, did not have a great shot, although that came around in later years, but when he was on the floor, he did all of the other little things, defense rebounding, hustle points that Is what I imagine the low end/floor of Salaun could be

Salaun has been my choice from the start.

Yeah, way back in January, once I heard Barlow mention that he could be the best French prospect in the draft I started watching him--didn't disappoint. I could easily see a reality where he is a more complete player than Sarr in 3 years.

[elias808]

Well, considering he only shot 29% on wide open threes...maybe that's not such a good thing.
He's had 1 mediocre year in the last 4 as a 3pt shooter. The rest have been terrible.

Who are you referring to exactly?

Matas...sorry I was referring to your last 3 sentences--I agree with you. Matas has very high 'bust' potential at #7.

Understood and agreed.

[elias808]

Salaun could go top 5, apparently he has impressed in workouts. I would hope POR considers him at #7

Prototypical size with good athleticism and has a great motor, even if he struggles with his shooting to start out, those tools will make him a very useful player out on the floor just doing a lot of the hustle plays, reminds me when Jerome Kersey was drafted by Portland, did not have a great shot, although that came around in later years, but when he was on the floor, he did all of the other little things, defense rebounding, hustle points that Is what I imagine the low end/floor of Salaun could be

Salaun has been my choice from the start.

Yeah, way back in January, once I heard Barlow mention that he could be the best French prospect in the draft I started watching him--didn't disappoint. I could easily see a reality where he is a more complete player than Sarr in 3 years.

“Could”. That’s the definitive word. Should we as a franchise be worrying about “could” in this draft? Seeing how it’s such a clearly awful draft. Or alternatively, take the highest floor players; ie Dalton and Edey?

[elias808]

Salaun could go top 5, apparently he has impressed in workouts. I would hope POR considers him at #7

Prototypical size with good athleticism and has a great motor, even if he struggles with his shooting to start out, those tools will make him a very useful player out on the floor just doing a lot of the hustle plays, reminds me when Jerome Kersey was drafted by Portland, did not have a great shot, although that came around in later years, but when he was on the floor, he did all of the other little things, defense rebounding, hustle points that Is what I imagine the low end/floor of Salaun could be

Salaun has been my choice from the start.

Yeah, way back in January, once I heard Barlow mention that he could be the best French prospect in the draft I started watching him--didn't disappoint. I could easily see a reality where he is a more complete player than Sarr in 3 years.

“Could”. That’s the definitive word. Should we as a franchise be worrying about “could” in this draft? Seeing how it’s such a clearly awful draft. Or alternatively, take the highest floor players; ie Dalton and Edey?

[zzaj]

Salaun has been my choice from the start.

Yeah, way back in January, once I heard Barlow mention that he could be the best French prospect in the draft I started watching him--didn't disappoint. I could easily see a reality where he is a more complete player than Sarr in 3 years.

“Could”. That’s the definitive word. Should we as a franchise be worrying about “could” in this draft? Seeing how it’s such a clearly awful draft. Or alternatively, take the highest floor players; ie Dalton and Edey?

Well, I disagree that it’s an awful draft. I think the overall talent is better than most years, actually. It’s just that there aren’t the typical 2-3 top end players this year. 17-40 this draft has an insane amount of talent.

I’ll go on record as saying 10 years from now this will be a “surprise” draft year.

[Walton1one]

at #7

IF Clingan is there I think you take him happily

otherwise, Salaun, Buzelis, Castle (if he drops), Knecht and Williams\Holland in that order...

Buzelis\Castle\Knecht order is totally fungible IMO...

[kdawg32086]

What I want in the draft:
7) Donovan Clingan
14) Zach Edey
34) Tyler Smith
40) Adem Bona or Nfaly Dante

[Norm2953]

I've never thought Clingan would be there at 7 but its interesting Clingan is refusing to workout with
Houston, who picks third.

Portland can BPA at 7 and pick whoever is their best big at 14, left on their board

[Butter]

I've never thought Clingan would be there at 7 but its interesting Clingan is refusing to workout with
Houston, who picks third.

Portland can BPA at 7 and pick whoever is their best big at 14, left on their board

I get this sentiment, I do, but what do you do if Dillingham or Castle is your top rated player? Set up a situation where they trade Scoot?

In all seriousness, referencing the year they traded down and passed on Chris Paul because they had Bassy Telfair.

What if Castle drops? The Blazers could start Simons and Castle, but then what do they do with Scoot and Sharp?

[DusterBuster]

I've never thought Clingan would be there at 7 but its interesting Clingan is refusing to workout with
Houston, who picks third.

Portland can BPA at 7 and pick whoever is their best big at 14, left on their board

Rumor is the the Hawks are picking between Clingan and the french kid who's name I can never remember. Sarr likely going to Washington at 2. Smokescreen time tho, so take that for what it's worth.

[Walton1one]

A week to go before the draft and a fair amount of rumors concerning and that could effect the Blazers...

POR has had at least 3? players in for private workouts. Clingan, Buzelis & Williams plus the "Super not-so-secret" workout group of Edey, Missi, Salaun, Holland, George & Dunn

Knecht came in (#7) Ware, McCain, DaSilva (all #14) came in...Who else does that leave in the range of #7/#14?

Lots of chatter of POR interest in Clingan, with #7 the floor for him and the possibility that POR could even trade up to secure him. HOU seems to be the likely target, and POR has the assets of interest (Williams, Brogdon, Simons) to HOU, plus #7/#14 to get there if they really want to, just depends on the cost\asking price.

So far the scuttlebutt is that teams are not making huge offers to move up in this draft....yet.

Chicago & Memphis are also rumored to be exploring trading up, presumably for Clingan, but one rumor I read was that CHI real target is Buzelis (local boy). Can either team entice HOU enough to drop down that far or is HOU trying to coerce POR to trade up from #7? It is known Udoka likes Brogdon\Williams, that Simons would be a great fit there & that they would prefer vets to push for playoffs next year instead of another young player.

Ware could be in play for MEM @ #9? If he is the target, they could be a potential team to trade up with for POR.

POR is looking to trade UP from #14, either into the Top 10 (MEM I would guess) or even just up a few spots (CHI, OKC have been mentioned)

POR is apparently, meeting with Topic? Thinking he could be in play if he falls to #14?

If you trust ESPN (and they seem to be most accurate, especially as the draft draws near), it is worth noting that they have pretty consistently listed Clingan @ #7 and now have Jakobe Walter @ #14 (can't remember if they have had Walter mocked to POR before or not, but another mock had Walter @ #7 and there have been several others with Walter @ #14). I don't think he has worked out for POR?

and then I just read that the two players POR likes the most are Holland & Knecht and that is why they are trying to trade up from #14 to secure both. Weird stuff going on with Holland, lots of rumors that he is falling out of lottery, yet several mocks have him in the lottery (including ESPN, hmmm).

Salaun has impressed in workouts but recently sprained an ankle, so other teams may likely meet with him but I doubt he is working out for them?

Little noise on Sheppard\Castle (except for no PG nonsense from Castle's camp) leading ESPN to believe that they are both in play to be drafted Top 5. Always reminds me of old saying, find out who is NOT being talked about and you likely have whom teams are really interested in. Who hasn't been mentioned to POR, Holland? Buzelis?

Will San Antonio trade up, presumably for Risacher or trade down and acquire a veteran PG like Darius Garland, apparently CLE likes Cody Williams.

Is DET still all in on Buzelis, or is their real target, Cody Williams just coming to light? Also heard\read Reed Sheppard here.

ESPN has Knecht likely to go 6/7/8, though I read elsewhere depending on volatility (trades) he could slip into #10-12 range and POR would look to move up to get him.

and what is up with Dillingham, clearly Clutch is trying to steer him somewhere, but is it later in the lotto (SA @ #8 as ESPN has) or just outside the lotto (MIA\PHI have been mentioned)?

Zach Edey possible top 10 promise? DaRon Holmes green room invite.

Sarr has not worked out for ATL? Like, what?