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Re: 2025 Off-Season Strategy - What will Cronin do? 

Post#681 » by zzaj » Mon May 26, 2025 11:44 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:I dont think Da Silva would be on the table in a Simons deal.

The simple play is Simons for KCP + 16. We get a pick slightly higher than Simons is worth (IMO) by taking on the extra year of KCP. And KCP brings on-court value to PDX as we are clearly trying to win games. Bringing KCP and Thybulle off the bench is pretty solid (I do worry that bringing in KCP w/ the extra year would make it foregone that Thybulle isnt resigned - and I dislike that as I would rather have MT than KCP for a few years - maybe we flip KCP at the trade DL).

I also dont think ORL would financially be interested in Simons w/o KCP going out.


Yeah, I’m pretty much in agreement here. I think KCP basically has to be in a Simons trade for it to work, and reaaaally doubt they give up on Da Silva—it was obvious that he was going to need his rookie deal to figure some things out.
I love the framework of Simons for KCP + pick.

MT is interesting, I think there’s zero chance he doesn’t opt in to his last year. And IMO, at that 11M, he could be attractive to the right team. As long as he’s hitting 3s at league avg or above, he’s got a little value.

IMO the blazers are going to let Walker and Banton walk.
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Post#682 » by Norm2953 » Mon May 26, 2025 11:58 pm

Who would Portland take at 11,16 if they did this deal?
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Post#683 » by JRoy » Tue May 27, 2025 12:28 am

11 - K Jaskiounis

16 - C. Bryant (if available)/Coward (if not)
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Re: 2025 Off-Season Strategy - What will Cronin do? 

Post#684 » by DaVoiceMaster » Tue May 27, 2025 1:49 am

Jaskiounis isnt the 6'3" SG is he? I'm thinking Richardson though, but don't know if there is one in the draft. I just don't want any undersized players.
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Post#685 » by Norm2953 » Tue May 27, 2025 1:49 am

If KJ is not there at 11???

I'd take Noa at 11 and a shooter at 16
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Post#686 » by Butter » Tue May 27, 2025 2:33 am

If the Blazers pick up a second 1st, it would be great to work a deal with the Bulls to get the Blazers pick back to free up flexibility for future deals.
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Post#687 » by Village Idiot » Tue May 27, 2025 9:41 am

With Indiana looking really good but always reluctant to pay the luxury tax, they will have to pay Myles Turner to stay competitive. Jarace Walker has never really made inroads into their rotation but has looked solid in limited minutes and really good in the g-league. Personally I still feel he can become a really good player. Solid D, strong BBIQ, good connective piece on O, can hit an open jumper. His salary numbers are $6,362,520 this salary year and $6,665,520 from July. We have a TPE of $6,875,000 which expires on July 6 so, in theory, we can aquire him for nothing but I imagine the Pacers will want an asset for him. Perhaps trading up a few spots would be incentive enough.

If we were able to trade Simons for KCP and 16 I would then trade the 16 for Walker and 23. We can let Jabari Walker and Delano Banton go and let Jarace Walker take those minutes.
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Post#688 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue May 27, 2025 3:07 pm

Village Idiot wrote:With Indiana looking really good but always reluctant to pay the luxury tax, they will have to pay Myles Turner to stay competitive. Jarace Walker has never really made inroads into their rotation but has looked solid in limited minutes and really good in the g-league. Personally I still feel he can become a really good player. Solid D, strong BBIQ, good connective piece on O, can hit an open jumper. His salary numbers are $6,362,520 this salary year and $6,665,520 from July. We have a TPE of $6,875,000 which expires on July 6 so, in theory, we can aquire him for nothing but I imagine the Pacers will want an asset for him. Perhaps trading up a few spots would be incentive enough.

If we were able to trade Simons for KCP and 16 I would then trade the 16 for Walker and 23. We can let Jabari Walker and Delano Banton go and let Jarace Walker take those minutes.


I think it’s much more likely they trade Toppin as it saves more money for resigning Turner, but who knows as Obi has been playing quite well in the playoffs. I love buying low on Jarace though.

Regardless I think it would take 11 rather than 16 at minimum to get Jarace and 23.
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Post#689 » by Black and Blue » Tue May 27, 2025 3:49 pm

DeBlazerRiddem wrote:The Orlando deal I have been noodling around is essentially Simons/Thybulle for KCP/Anthony and a pick. Pretty close on salary, Orlando upgrades their PG spot with some more shooting and Thybulle might be what they were expecting KCP to be. I don't think I would take on KCP's contract for just 25, but will they give 16 to upgrade two positions?

I would rather send them some other filler besides Thybulle but I can see him being a guy Orlando likes and makes them more likely to part with the higher pick.


This is a good deal for both teams. If the Magic can agree on an extension with Simons prior to the deal, this makes too much sense.

The Magic would likely prefer to deal that 25 pick, but this is a fantastic compromise.
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Post#690 » by DusterBuster » Tue May 27, 2025 5:37 pm

New Blazer rumor out in the wild:

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Hard to say the validity here, but Amico has been around for awhile. Could be good sign for those of us still hoping the team believes in Scoot. However, this doesn't align much with the smoke around a Simons extension. Having Simons, Scoot and Paul on the roster is... strange. Not sure Paul thinks of himself yet as a 3rd string mentor yet.
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Post#691 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue May 27, 2025 5:45 pm

DusterBuster wrote:New Blazer rumor out in the wild:

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Hard to say the validity here, but Amico has been around for awhile. Could be good sign for those of us still hoping the team believes in Scoot. However, this doesn't align much with the smoke around a Simons extension. Having Simons, Scoot and Paul on the roster is... strange. Not sure Paul thinks of himself yet as a 3rd string mentor yet.


I love the idea of CP3 as the backup PG / mentor. I would have to think teams with more legit chances of contending would be higher on Paul's list but who knows.
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Post#692 » by Walton1one » Tue May 27, 2025 5:46 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
Village Idiot wrote:With Indiana looking really good but always reluctant to pay the luxury tax, they will have to pay Myles Turner to stay competitive. Jarace Walker has never really made inroads into their rotation but has looked solid in limited minutes and really good in the g-league. Personally I still feel he can become a really good player. Solid D, strong BBIQ, good connective piece on O, can hit an open jumper. His salary numbers are $6,362,520 this salary year and $6,665,520 from July. We have a TPE of $6,875,000 which expires on July 6 so, in theory, we can aquire him for nothing but I imagine the Pacers will want an asset for him. Perhaps trading up a few spots would be incentive enough.

If we were able to trade Simons for KCP and 16 I would then trade the 16 for Walker and 23. We can let Jabari Walker and Delano Banton go and let Jarace Walker take those minutes.


I think it’s much more likely they trade Toppin as it saves more money for resigning Turner, but who knows as Obi has been playing quite well in the playoffs. I love buying low on Jarace though.

Regardless I think it would take 11 rather than 16 at minimum to get Jarace and 23.


Looking at their cap situation, trading Jarace Walker does not make a ton of sense. Trading Mathurin does, given that he is a RFA after next year and that several of their key rotational players are signed for 2+ more years to team-friendly deals, trading them away doesn't really help their cap situation a ton and likely does not benefit them more than what those players give them on the court.

STAR - Halliburton, locked up thru 28/29 @ $45.4\$48.9\$52.3\$55.6
SECONDARY\STAR - Siakam, locked up thru 27/28 @ $45.5\$48.9\$52.3

ROTATIONAL PLAYERS:
Nesmith, locked up thru 26/27 @ $11\$11
Nembhard, locked up thru 27/28 @ $18\$19.5\$21
Toppin, locked up thru 27/28 @ $14\$15\$16
McConnell, locked up thru 28\29 @ $10\$11\$11.8\$11.8

OTHERS:
Mathurin, locked up thru 25/26 (RFA in 26/27 @ $9.2
Sheppard, locked up thru 26/27 (RFA in 27/28) @ $2.8/$5
Walker, locked up thru 26/27 (RFA in 27/28) @ $6.7\$8.5
Furphy, locked up thru 27/28 @ $2\$2.3\$2.5
2025 PICKS: #23, #54

They have to resign Turner this year (he is a UFA, however only BRK has a ton of cap space available). Next year they are at $165, if they sign Turner @ $30mil, that is $195 (11 players, $199 (12 players) if you count their #23 pick ), the tax is $188, 1st apron is $196.

So $11 million over the tax with 12 players (roster minimum is 13), so they probably have to trade away 2 players: Mathurin who is going to be a RFA after next season would seem to make the most sense and then maybe a guy like Obi Toppin. Walker could fill in for Toppin's role and they have Sheppard\Furphy (maybe #23?) to fill in for Mathurin. Of course, any amount Turner signs for under $30 million would be beneficial to IND. It will be interesting to see how they handle his contract.

Again, I would say POR should be looking at the model IND is doing:

(1) Star level player
(1) Secondary\star or near star level player
(4-5) Key rotational pieces locked up on affordable contracts
Other players on rookie scale\vet minimum range deals

This is the important part, especially for a team like POR, it is very hard paying more than (2) guys that type of money ($30+ million) and not expect to be paying the luxury tax\flirting with the 1st apron. It looks really bad if your team is not competing deep into the playoff to make the cost worthwhile, even then, few teams are willing to go there.

So a team like IND, who has generally done a good job locking up role\rotational players, but does not want to pay the luxury tax, is eventually going to face a crunch, and they are competing in the EC finals, which makes it a lot easier to commit to paying tax\incurring 1st apron penalties then.

The hope is that POR would be in a similar position, but paying Deni\Camara\Sharpe AND Simons or Ayton $30+million and expecting a massive amount of internal growth is a foolish strategy.
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Post#693 » by Walton1one » Tue May 27, 2025 5:48 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:New Blazer rumor out in the wild:

Read on Twitter


https://hoopswire.com/nba-rumors-celtics-jrue-holiday-hawks-draft-blazers-chris-paul/?utm_content=buffer97c03&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Hard to say the validity here, but Amico has been around for awhile. Could be good sign for those of us still hoping the team believes in Scoot. However, this doesn't align much with the smoke around a Simons extension. Having Simons, Scoot and Paul on the roster is... strange. Not sure Paul thinks of himself yet as a 3rd string mentor yet.


I love the idea of CP3 as the backup PG / mentor. I would have to think teams with more legit chances of contending would be higher on Paul's list but who knows.



I agree, can't imagine PAul would choose POR over a team like DAL for instance?
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Re: 2025 Off-Season Strategy - What will Cronin do? 

Post#694 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue May 27, 2025 5:59 pm

Walton1one wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:
Village Idiot wrote:With Indiana looking really good but always reluctant to pay the luxury tax, they will have to pay Myles Turner to stay competitive. Jarace Walker has never really made inroads into their rotation but has looked solid in limited minutes and really good in the g-league. Personally I still feel he can become a really good player. Solid D, strong BBIQ, good connective piece on O, can hit an open jumper. His salary numbers are $6,362,520 this salary year and $6,665,520 from July. We have a TPE of $6,875,000 which expires on July 6 so, in theory, we can aquire him for nothing but I imagine the Pacers will want an asset for him. Perhaps trading up a few spots would be incentive enough.

If we were able to trade Simons for KCP and 16 I would then trade the 16 for Walker and 23. We can let Jabari Walker and Delano Banton go and let Jarace Walker take those minutes.


I think it’s much more likely they trade Toppin as it saves more money for resigning Turner, but who knows as Obi has been playing quite well in the playoffs. I love buying low on Jarace though.

Regardless I think it would take 11 rather than 16 at minimum to get Jarace and 23.


Looking at their cap situation, trading Jarace Walker does not make a ton of sense. Trading Mathurin does, given that he is a RFA after next year and that several of their key rotational players are signed for 2+ more years to team-friendly deals, trading them away doesn't really help their cap situation a ton and likely does not benefit them more than what those players give them on the court.

STAR - Halliburton, locked up thru 28/29 @ $45.4\$48.9\$52.3\$55.6
SECONDARY\STAR - Siakam, locked up thru 27/28 @ $45.5\$48.9\$52.3

ROTATIONAL PLAYERS:
Nesmith, locked up thru 26/27 @ $11\$11
Nembhard, locked up thru 27/28 @ $18\$19.5\$21
Toppin, locked up thru 27/28 @ $14\$15\$16
McConnell, locked up thru 28\29 @ $10\$11\$11.8\$11.8

OTHERS:
Mathurin, locked up thru 25/26 (RFA in 26/27 @ $9.2
Sheppard, locked up thru 26/27 (RFA in 27/28) @ $2.8/$5
Walker, locked up thru 26/27 (RFA in 27/28) @ $6.7\$8.5
Furphy, locked up thru 27/28 @ $2\$2.3\$2.5
2025 PICKS: #23, #54

They have to resign Turner this year (he is a UFA, however only BRK has a ton of cap space available). Next year they are at $165, if they sign Turner @ $30mil, that is $195 (11 players, $199 (12 players) if you count their #23 pick ), the tax is $188, 1st apron is $196.

So $11 million over the tax with 12 players (roster minimum is 13), so they probably have to trade away 2 players: Mathurin who is going to be a RFA after next season would seem to make the most sense and then maybe a guy like Obi Toppin. Walker could fill in for Toppin's role and they have Sheppard\Furphy (maybe #23?) to fill in for Mathurin. Of course, any amount Turner signs for under $30 million would be beneficial to IND. It will be interesting to see how they handle his contract.

Again, I would say POR should be looking at the model IND is doing:

(1) Star level player
(1) Secondary\star or near star level player
(4-5) Key rotational pieces locked up on affordable contracts
Other players on rookie scale\vet minimum range deals

This is the important part, especially for a team like POR, it is very hard paying more than (2) guys that type of money ($30+ million) and not expect to be paying the luxury tax\flirting with the 1st apron. It looks really bad if your team is not competing deep into the playoff to make the cost worthwhile, even then, few teams are willing to go there.

So a team like IND, who has generally done a good job locking up role\rotational players, but does not want to pay the luxury tax, is eventually going to face a crunch, and they are competing in the EC finals, which makes it a lot easier to commit to paying tax\incurring 1st apron penalties then.

The hope is that POR would be in a similar position, but paying Deni\Camara\Sharpe AND Simons or Ayton $30+million and expecting a massive amount of internal growth is a foolish strategy.


I think IND likely sees Jackson, Obi and Mathurian as the expendables. Walker can slide into Toppin's role for cheaper and Ben Sheppard just seems to fit the team better than Mathurian. I bet they could flip Mathurian for a decent FRP and reset on a rookie deal guy.
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Post#695 » by Walton1one » Tue May 27, 2025 6:32 pm

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BlazersBroncos wrote:I dont think Da Silva would be on the table in a Simons deal.

The simple play is Simons for KCP + 16. We get a pick slightly higher than Simons is worth (IMO) by taking on the extra year of KCP. And KCP brings on-court value to PDX as we are clearly trying to win games. Bringing KCP and Thybulle off the bench is pretty solid (I do worry that bringing in KCP w/ the extra year would make it foregone that Thybulle isnt resigned - and I dislike that as I would rather have MT than KCP for a few years - maybe we flip KCP at the trade DL).

I also dont think ORL would financially be interested in Simons w/o KCP going out.


Yeah, I’m pretty much in agreement here. I think KCP basically has to be in a Simons trade for it to work, and reaaaally doubt they give up on Da Silva—it was obvious that he was going to need his rookie deal to figure some things out.
I love the framework of Simons for KCP + pick.

MT is interesting, I think there’s zero chance he doesn’t opt in to his last year. And IMO, at that 11M, he could be attractive to the right team. As long as he’s hitting 3s at league avg or above, he’s got a little value.

IMO the blazers are going to let Walker and Banton walk.


I think getting KCP back in an ORL deal is essential for POR, I just cannot see POR trading Simons shooting away w\o netting some type of vet\shooting back. KCP is a player Cronin could sell to Kolde and the type of player Billups would like. Depending how Billups is feeling about Sharpe on any given day KCP could (should) come off the bench, but could also start. He provides shooting, brings better defense and his contract is only for 1 more year (PO @ $21.6 million), and would not mess with POR plans to resign Camara or restructure Deni's contract (if they desired to do so, they should).

KCP had a rough year shooting for ORL LY - 43.9%/34.2% FG/3ptFG, but the 5 years prior he was hovering around 38-42% from 3pt

Plus, salary wise the move from KCP ($21.6) to Simons ($27.7) is likely needed to make a deal work for ORL

Assuming they pick up the CO on Moe Wagner @ $11mil - They will have $165mil or so tied up on 11 players: Isaac, Anthony, Banchero, WCJ, Moe & Franz Wagner, Suggs, Bitadze, Black, Howard & Da Silva

Add Simons (replacing KCP) to that mix, they would be at $192+ for 12 players, and they have #16 ($4.4), #25 ($3), along with (2) 2nd's, #46 & #57

So sending another player back to POR along with KCP would be very likely. I would imagine the preference would be to stay under the tax for one more year before Banchero's extension kicks in, so IMO it would be a player like:

Anthony, owed $13.1\$13.1 (TO)
Bitadze, owed $8.3/$7.6
Isaac, owed $15\$14.5\$14.5\$15
Howard, owed $5.5\$7.3 (TO)

Trading Howard back does not really help their cap\tax situation, but any of the other 3 would help. I think Black would be a non-starter for them (and should be), but he is owed $8\$10.1 (TO).

Adding Anthony takes them down to $179, they could take a minimum contract deal like Reath or Rupert (POR would have to pick up TO) back in the deal, that takes them to $181 or so, enough to keep one of the draft picks and sign (2) players to fill out their (15 man). Isaac would be another player that could work as well.

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Post#696 » by Walton1one » Tue May 27, 2025 6:45 pm

Some vet names out there, probably among the most likely to be moved, something to monitor

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Would POR trade #11 for Cam Johnson & #19 or #26? I have to imagine Cam Johnson would be dangled for a pick higher up than POR pick, but he is the type of player I could see POR having interest in

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PJ Washington would be another interesting fit for POR. Age wise he would fit with POR core, he turns 27 in August. #11 for Washington seems a little rich though?

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Derozan on the move, not a POR candidate IMO, but could be on the move on draf day
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Post#697 » by Village Idiot » Tue May 27, 2025 7:01 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
Walton1one wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:
I think it’s much more likely they trade Toppin as it saves more money for resigning Turner, but who knows as Obi has been playing quite well in the playoffs. I love buying low on Jarace though.

Regardless I think it would take 11 rather than 16 at minimum to get Jarace and 23.


Looking at their cap situation, trading Jarace Walker does not make a ton of sense. Trading Mathurin does, given that he is a RFA after next year and that several of their key rotational players are signed for 2+ more years to team-friendly deals, trading them away doesn't really help their cap situation a ton and likely does not benefit them more than what those players give them on the court.

STAR - Halliburton, locked up thru 28/29 @ $45.4\$48.9\$52.3\$55.6
SECONDARY\STAR - Siakam, locked up thru 27/28 @ $45.5\$48.9\$52.3

ROTATIONAL PLAYERS:
Nesmith, locked up thru 26/27 @ $11\$11
Nembhard, locked up thru 27/28 @ $18\$19.5\$21
Toppin, locked up thru 27/28 @ $14\$15\$16
McConnell, locked up thru 28\29 @ $10\$11\$11.8\$11.8

OTHERS:
Mathurin, locked up thru 25/26 (RFA in 26/27 @ $9.2
Sheppard, locked up thru 26/27 (RFA in 27/28) @ $2.8/$5
Walker, locked up thru 26/27 (RFA in 27/28) @ $6.7\$8.5
Furphy, locked up thru 27/28 @ $2\$2.3\$2.5
2025 PICKS: #23, #54

They have to resign Turner this year (he is a UFA, however only BRK has a ton of cap space available). Next year they are at $165, if they sign Turner @ $30mil, that is $195 (11 players, $199 (12 players) if you count their #23 pick ), the tax is $188, 1st apron is $196.

So $11 million over the tax with 12 players (roster minimum is 13), so they probably have to trade away 2 players: Mathurin who is going to be a RFA after next season would seem to make the most sense and then maybe a guy like Obi Toppin. Walker could fill in for Toppin's role and they have Sheppard\Furphy (maybe #23?) to fill in for Mathurin. Of course, any amount Turner signs for under $30 million would be beneficial to IND. It will be interesting to see how they handle his contract.

Again, I would say POR should be looking at the model IND is doing:

(1) Star level player
(1) Secondary\star or near star level player
(4-5) Key rotational pieces locked up on affordable contracts
Other players on rookie scale\vet minimum range deals

This is the important part, especially for a team like POR, it is very hard paying more than (2) guys that type of money ($30+ million) and not expect to be paying the luxury tax\flirting with the 1st apron. It looks really bad if your team is not competing deep into the playoff to make the cost worthwhile, even then, few teams are willing to go there.

So a team like IND, who has generally done a good job locking up role\rotational players, but does not want to pay the luxury tax, is eventually going to face a crunch, and they are competing in the EC finals, which makes it a lot easier to commit to paying tax\incurring 1st apron penalties then.

The hope is that POR would be in a similar position, but paying Deni\Camara\Sharpe AND Simons or Ayton $30+million and expecting a massive amount of internal growth is a foolish strategy.


I think IND likely sees Jackson, Obi and Mathurian as the expendables. Walker can slide into Toppin's role for cheaper and Ben Sheppard just seems to fit the team better than Mathurian. I bet they could flip Mathurian for a decent FRP and reset on a rookie deal guy.
Great analysis and I agree with the Pacers preferred options but I don't see much of a market for Toppin
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Re: 2025 Off-Season Strategy - What will Cronin do? 

Post#698 » by zzaj » Tue May 27, 2025 7:12 pm

Walton1one wrote:
zzaj wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:I dont think Da Silva would be on the table in a Simons deal.

The simple play is Simons for KCP + 16. We get a pick slightly higher than Simons is worth (IMO) by taking on the extra year of KCP. And KCP brings on-court value to PDX as we are clearly trying to win games. Bringing KCP and Thybulle off the bench is pretty solid (I do worry that bringing in KCP w/ the extra year would make it foregone that Thybulle isnt resigned - and I dislike that as I would rather have MT than KCP for a few years - maybe we flip KCP at the trade DL).

I also dont think ORL would financially be interested in Simons w/o KCP going out.


Yeah, I’m pretty much in agreement here. I think KCP basically has to be in a Simons trade for it to work, and reaaaally doubt they give up on Da Silva—it was obvious that he was going to need his rookie deal to figure some things out.
I love the framework of Simons for KCP + pick.

MT is interesting, I think there’s zero chance he doesn’t opt in to his last year. And IMO, at that 11M, he could be attractive to the right team. As long as he’s hitting 3s at league avg or above, he’s got a little value.

IMO the blazers are going to let Walker and Banton walk.


I think getting KCP back in an ORL deal is essential for POR, I just cannot see POR trading Simons shooting away w\o netting some type of vet\shooting back. KCP is a player Cronin could sell to Kolde and the type of player Billups would like. Depending how Billups is feeling about Sharpe on any given day KCP could (should) come off the bench, but could also start. He provides shooting, brings better defense and his contract is only for 1 more year (PO @ $21.6 million), and would not mess with POR plans to resign Camara or restructure Deni's contract (if they desired to do so, they should).

KCP had a rough year shooting for ORL LY - 43.9%/34.2% FG/3ptFG, but the 5 years prior he was hovering around 38-42% from 3pt

Plus, salary wise the move from KCP ($21.6) to Simons ($27.7) is likely needed to make a deal work for ORL

Assuming they pick up the CO on Moe Wagner @ $11mil - They will have $165mil or so tied up on 11 players: Isaac, Anthony, Banchero, WCJ, Moe & Franz Wagner, Suggs, Bitadze, Black, Howard & Da Silva

Add Simons (replacing KCP) to that mix, they would be at $192+ for 12 players, and they have #16 ($4.4), #25 ($3), along with (2) 2nd's, #46 & #57

So sending another player back to POR along with KCP would be very likely. I would imagine the preference would be to stay under the tax for one more year before Banchero's extension kicks in, so IMO it would be a player like:

Anthony, owed $13.1\$13.1 (TO)
Bitadze, owed $8.3/$7.6
Isaac, owed $15\$14.5\$14.5\$15
Howard, owed $5.5\$7.3 (TO)

Trading Howard back does not really help their cap\tax situation, but any of the other 3 would help. I think Black would be a non-starter for them (and should be), but he is owed $8\$10.1 (TO).

Adding Anthony takes them down to $179, they could take a minimum contract deal like Reath or Rupert (POR would have to pick up TO) back in the deal, that takes them to $181 or so, enough to keep one of the draft picks and sign (2) players to fill out their (15 man). Isaac would be another player that could work as well.

Simons\Reath or Rupert
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KCP\Anthony or Isaac & #16 (maybe a 2nd rounder (#46 or #57 or future 2nd, as well?)


That deal was the exact deal (minus the 2nd) I posted a week or two ago in an Orlando/Por trade thread on the TT board. Didn't seem to get a lot of traction, but I think this is a good deal for both teams. Simons and Reath would help Orlando.
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Re: 2025 Off-Season Strategy - What will Cronin do? 

Post#699 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue May 27, 2025 7:27 pm

Walton1one wrote:Some vet names out there, probably among the most likely to be moved, something to monitor

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Would POR trade #11 for Cam Johnson & #19 or #26? I have to imagine Cam Johnson would be dangled for a pick higher up than POR pick, but he is the type of player I could see POR having interest in

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PJ Washington would be another interesting fit for POR. Age wise he would fit with POR core, he turns 27 in August. #11 for Washington seems a little rich though?

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Derozan on the move, not a POR candidate IMO, but could be on the move on draf day


I wouldnt be a fan of Cam or PJ. Older non-needle movers that we move a near top-10 pick for is a no-go for me.

Going off the CP3 rumor, a simple offseason of signing CP3 and moving Simons for KCP + 16 would be fine w/ me. Try to move Kris to SAC into TPE to open a roster slot.

G - Scoot Henderson / Chris Paul
G - Shadeon Sharpe / Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
F - Toumani Camara / Matisse Thybulle / Rayan Rupert
F - Deni Avdija / Jerami Grant
C - DeAndre Ayton / Donovan Clingan / Duop Reath
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+ 11 and 16 to go full BPA on
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Re: 2025 Off-Season Strategy - What will Cronin do? 

Post#700 » by Walton1one » Tue May 27, 2025 8:05 pm

I wonder if a Thybulle for Washington swap could work?

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