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Re: Bubble game 2: Portland vs Boston 12:30pmKATU/SNW 

Post#81 » by Epicurus » Mon Aug 3, 2020 5:01 pm

To me the problem with the 6 seconds down 3 play was that McCollummccullu didn't move from above the break wing area, leaving no where for the inbounder Melo to go on the left three point line. Thus it was congested enough that one guy could cover McC and Melo, allowing Melo's man to triple team Dame and leave no risky pass but to Nurk. MCC needed to either dash to the corner or to cross to the other side, both leaving room for Melo to receive a pass from Dame and get off a three himself. It would have also meant no three guys on Dame,messing up his vision for a shot or even a pass. Move somewhere, CJ!
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Re: Bubble game 2: Portland vs Boston 12:30pmKATU/SNW 

Post#82 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Mon Aug 3, 2020 5:09 pm

Whiteside was far from the reason we lost this game, but I do not want him back. He always gets himself out of position committing too strongly to block everything, like dude most of the time just use your length to bother them and stay in position to grab the rebound. It just happens so often and he always looks so sheepish like "how did that happen again".

He also pretty much refuses to take the ball out of bounds which is totally minor but like, watching Dame or Carmelo have to chase down the ball and in-bounds it because Hassan was closest and couldn't be bothered to pick it up is just little moves showing his arrogance and selfishness. Dude is just a stat chaser that doesn't do the little things required to win so he just coasts on his impressive natural gifts. Yeah he can be a difference maker but I would much rather a hungry young player.


But this game wasn't Whiteside's fault, its Stotts. This happens every time we face Boston, they use their long defenders to smother Damian and CJ. Nurkic was doing a good job breaking down their defense but our guards didn't get going until way too late in the game. I mean Boston is kind of built to stop our type of offense but Stotts should know this by now. And then yeah that timeout at the end and Lillard passing up the 3 hurt but they were hail mary attempts to save the game, which was really lost when we got in a big hole early.
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Re: Bubble game 2: Portland vs Boston 12:30pmKATU/SNW 

Post#83 » by DaVoiceMaster » Mon Aug 3, 2020 6:39 pm

Can we get Kanter back?
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Re: Bubble game 2: Portland vs Boston 12:30pmKATU/SNW 

Post#84 » by Brandon-Clyde » Mon Aug 3, 2020 7:11 pm

DaVoiceMaster wrote:Can we get Kanter back?

On the trade board there has been the suggestion of Portland sending the 44th pick for Kanter and the 30th pick ( allows Boston to save money for a small drop in later in the draft. I would be interested as Portland could maybe use that pick, their own first and either Little or Simons to trade up for Okuro or Avidja
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Re: Bubble game 2: Portland vs Boston 12:30pmKATU/SNW 

Post#85 » by Epicurus » Mon Aug 3, 2020 7:18 pm

DeBlazerRiddem wrote:Whiteside was far from the reason we lost this game, but I do not want him back. He always gets himself out of position committing too strongly to block everything, like dude most of the time just use your length to bother them and stay in position to grab the rebound. It just happens so often and he always looks so sheepish like "how did that happen again".

He also pretty much refuses to take the ball out of bounds which is totally minor but like, watching Dame or Carmelo have to chase down the ball and in-bounds it because Hassan was closest and couldn't be bothered to pick it up is just little moves showing his arrogance and selfishness. Dude is just a stat chaser that doesn't do the little things required to win so he just coasts on his impressive natural gifts. Yeah he can be a difference maker but I would much rather a hungry young player.


But this game wasn't Whiteside's fault, its Stotts. This happens every time we face Boston, they use their long defenders to smother Damian and CJ. Nurkic was doing a good job breaking down their defense but our guards didn't get going until way too late in the game. I mean Boston is kind of built to stop our type of offense but Stotts should know this by now. And then yeah that timeout at the end and Lillard passing up the 3 hurt but they were hail mary attempts to save the game, which was really lost when we got in a big hole early.
You realize that the Blazers scored 124 pts., right? Does that sound like they are " built to stop our type of offense? LOLs! I am at a loss to know what coach would not call a time out immediately with 6 seconds are left and down by 3? Challenge by Boston, which came first and does a challenge mean enough time to set a play on the sidelines? No, in most cases, and definitely in this one. Seriously, complain perhaps that the Blazers weren't ready offensively at the biggining. Don't know if that is true, but it makes more sense than your complaints.
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Re: Bubble game 2: Portland vs Boston 12:30pmKATU/SNW 

Post#86 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Tue Aug 4, 2020 1:57 am

Epicurus wrote:
DeBlazerRiddem wrote:Whiteside was far from the reason we lost this game, but I do not want him back. He always gets himself out of position committing too strongly to block everything, like dude most of the time just use your length to bother them and stay in position to grab the rebound. It just happens so often and he always looks so sheepish like "how did that happen again".

He also pretty much refuses to take the ball out of bounds which is totally minor but like, watching Dame or Carmelo have to chase down the ball and in-bounds it because Hassan was closest and couldn't be bothered to pick it up is just little moves showing his arrogance and selfishness. Dude is just a stat chaser that doesn't do the little things required to win so he just coasts on his impressive natural gifts. Yeah he can be a difference maker but I would much rather a hungry young player.


But this game wasn't Whiteside's fault, its Stotts. This happens every time we face Boston, they use their long defenders to smother Damian and CJ. Nurkic was doing a good job breaking down their defense but our guards didn't get going until way too late in the game. I mean Boston is kind of built to stop our type of offense but Stotts should know this by now. And then yeah that timeout at the end and Lillard passing up the 3 hurt but they were hail mary attempts to save the game, which was really lost when we got in a big hole early.
You realize that the Blazers scored 124 pts., right? Does that sound like they are " built to stop our type of offense? LOLs! I am at a loss to know what coach would not call a time out immediately with 6 seconds are left and down by 3? Challenge by Boston, which came first and does a challenge mean enough time to set a play on the sidelines? No, in most cases, and definitely in this one. Seriously, complain perhaps that the Blazers weren't ready offensively at the biggining. Don't know if that is true, but it makes more sense than your complaints.


Lol, clearly you did not read my complaints and are looking for someone to rant against.

Let me recap and simplify my final sentence, so hopefully you read that again and understand what I was actually saying: "that timeout and lillard passing up the 3 hurt but.. the game.. was really lost when we got in a big hole early"
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Re: Bubble game 2: Portland vs Boston 12:30pmKATU/SNW 

Post#87 » by zzaj » Tue Aug 4, 2020 2:05 am

For those who are asking for it...

Why would the Blazers want Kanter back after he made “the decision” just a little while ago?

I get how he’d help the team, and I really liked him... but he obviously isn’t that interested in playing for this iteration of the Blazers for whatever reasons. Last thing I would want as a GM is to bring in a player who doesn’t want to be here...
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Re: Bubble game 2: Portland vs Boston 12:30pmKATU/SNW 

Post#88 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Aug 4, 2020 6:16 pm

For those who are asking for it...

Why would the Blazers want Kanter back after he made “the decision” just a little while ago?

I get how he’d help the team, and I really liked him... but he obviously isn’t that interested in playing for this iteration of the Blazers for whatever reasons. Last thing I would want as a GM is to bring in a player who doesn’t want to be here...


From what I remember we prioritized Kanter over Hood but he took too long to decide on the contract. I dont necessarily think there was bad blood there. He was beloved in his short stint by his teammates and seems a much better culture fit than Hassan.

Whiteside has shown in 2 games what I was fearing, sulking on the bench and showing little emotion when he isnt directly impacting a good play. Enes will be emotionally involved even if he is limited in minutes. I also think his screening is much more important to this team than Whiteside's block party. Since Nurkic got back we have been infinitely better at getting switches off screens for Dame and CJ. Its absolutely crazy the difference.
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Re: Bubble game 2: Portland vs Boston 12:30pmKATU/SNW 

Post#89 » by Epicurus » Tue Aug 4, 2020 9:00 pm

3 point defense
Blazers allowed 13 3s wide open (no Blazer within 6 ft of shooter). The Celts made 7 of them for a 53.8% rate.
Celts allowed 21 wide open 3s. The Blazers made 9 of them for a 42.9% rate.

Both teams allowed 12 open threes ( no defender between 4 to 6 ft of shooter). The Celts made 8 and the Blazers made 7.

The Blazers somewhat contested ( 2-4 ft of shooter) 3 attempts and the Celts made 1 of them.
The Celts somewhat contested 8 and Blazers made 3.

The Blazers tightly contested 2 attempts and the Celts made both.
The Celts tightly contested 1 and the Blazers missed it.

Hard to say one team defended better the 3s. Not hard to say that one team shot the three better, especially wide open ones.
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Re: Bubble game 2: Portland vs Boston 12:30pmKATU/SNW 

Post#90 » by DaVoiceMaster » Wed Aug 5, 2020 1:08 am

Brown couldn't miss the other night, but he missed tonight. (sigh)
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