Trading Dame?

[Sinobas]

The blazers only chance of becoming a contender under Dame, is if he lures another star like Durant, or if one or more of our young players blossoms into a star. But I don't want a 35 year old Dame leading a mediocre team making 50 million per year. I'd prefer to cash out early and get something for him, and start building the next iteration of the team.

I wouldn't trade him now, but if this squad is not looking good by the trade deadline this year I'd start exploring.

The great Bill Walsh said it's better to get rid of a player 1 year too soon that 1 year too late.

[soobias]

i guess DAME just posted in ig that loyalty has an experation date per hoopshype.
maybe he's not satisfied with this offseson ?

thoughts ?

[Norm2953]

If Utah can get 4 FRP (three unprotected) for Gobert, how many can Portland get for Dame?

[Dame Lizard]

i guess DAME just posted in ig that loyalty has an experation date per hoopshype.
maybe he's not satisfied with this offseson ?

thoughts ?

I really don't want us to extend him when he already has 2 years left + a player option for a third, given the roster is in flux. I don't expect this roster to work out, so think the best course of action is to blow it up.

If he's wanting a 2 year $100m extension, it's crystal clear that money is his #1 priority.

I can already see it happening. We trade away Shaedon, Simons and all our future picks, only to remain no better than at present. Only we have no assets other than a 35 year old Dame getting paid $55m per season.

[soobias]

i guess DAME just posted in ig that loyalty has an experation date per hoopshype.
maybe he's not satisfied with this offseson ?

thoughts ?

I really don't want us to extend him when he already has 2 years left + a player option for a third, given the roster is in flux. I don't expect this roster to work out, so think the best course of action is to blow it up.

If he's wanting a 2 year $100m extension, it's crystal clear that money is his #1 priority.

I can already see it happening. We trade away Shaedon, Simons and all our future picks, only to remain no better than at present. Only we have no assets other than a 35 year old Dame getting paid $55m per season.

i agree

[Blazinaway]

i guess DAME just posted in ig that loyalty has an experation date per hoopshype.
maybe he's not satisfied with this offseson ?

thoughts ?

I really don't want us to extend him when he already has 2 years left + a player option for a third, given the roster is in flux. I don't expect this roster to work out, so think the best course of action is to blow it up.

If he's wanting a 2 year $100m extension, it's crystal clear that money is his #1 priority.

I can already see it happening. We trade away Shaedon, Simons and all our future picks, only to remain no better than at present. Only we have no assets other than a 35 year old Dame getting paid $55m per season.

i agree

me too

[The Sebastian Express]

i guess DAME just posted in ig that loyalty has an experation date per hoopshype.
maybe he's not satisfied with this offseson ?

thoughts ?

My thoughts are you guys need to stop overreacting to people being people and posting random stuff. If he wanted a trade request he'd just go make it himself, with his words, or through Chris Haynes. Just let people live without overanalyzing everything.

[soobias]

i didnt know i was overreacting .
i always check in on hoopshype and others and i thought it was note worthy that they posted what he put up

[Myth]

I heard the loyalty quote is a lyric from one of his songs. Could he be hinting at something? Maybe. Could he be **** with people to gain some traction on that song? Maybe.

[m0ng0]

So since this draft is burned NOW we need to convince Dame we are trying to win otherwise he won't sign his extension? This could be rumor of course but really? Cronin KNEW he could not build a winner 3 months ago. Jesus I'm sick of this and again NONE of this may be true but where there is smoke there is fire.

https://theathletic.com/3395908/2022/07/01/durant-suns-nba-free-agency-notes/

did you read the article?

there's nothing in it suggesting Dame is using the potential extension to leverage the Blazers. What it did say is that the addition of Grant and Payton essentially made Dame happier. The question mark is Sharpe and Dame is smart enough to know that a rookie could take a couple of seasons to bear fruit

not only that, you have been btching and moaning about Portland giving Dame that extension...now you're btching and moaning that Dame might not accept it? That should actually make you happy...unless of course you're completely invested in the idea that Dame is just bad for Portland all the way around

I don't know what your deal with me is, but it seems Cronin has been commiting to and catering to Dames wishes and now he is playing hard to get? If Dame was all in like it appears Cronin is trying to be he would sign his god DAMN extension and this would all be over. I don't like what I'm seeing from Dame and the biggest crutch to this team getting better IS Dame. It seems a little disingenuous. Please feel free to correct me Wiz...

[Wizenheimer]

So since this draft is burned NOW we need to convince Dame we are trying to win otherwise he won't sign his extension? This could be rumor of course but really? Cronin KNEW he could not build a winner 3 months ago. Jesus I'm sick of this and again NONE of this may be true but where there is smoke there is fire.

https://theathletic.com/3395908/2022/07/01/durant-suns-nba-free-agency-notes/

did you read the article?

there's nothing in it suggesting Dame is using the potential extension to leverage the Blazers. What it did say is that the addition of Grant and Payton essentially made Dame happier. The question mark is Sharpe and Dame is smart enough to know that a rookie could take a couple of seasons to bear fruit

not only that, you have been btching and moaning about Portland giving Dame that extension...now you're btching and moaning that Dame might not accept it? That should actually make you happy...unless of course you're completely invested in the idea that Dame is just bad for Portland all the way around

I don't know what your deal with me is, but it seems Cronin has been commiting to and catering to Dames wishes and now he is playing hard to get? If Dame was all in like it appears Cronin is trying to be he would sign his god DAMN extension and this would all be over. I don't like what I'm seeing from Dame and the biggest crutch to this team getting better IS Dame. It seems a little disingenuous. Please feel free to correct me Wiz...

my correction would be this: 2-3 months ago Dame came out and made a point to call BS on the 'rumor' that he was trying to squeeze an extension out of Portland. He said he wasn't focused on the extension and wasn't worrying about it. It is absolutely no coincidence that rumor came out within 24 hours after Olshey was fired. It was Olshey was trying to poison the water on his way out of the door. And it's not hard to believe Dame was sincere when he said he wasn't worrying or pressing for an extension. Believing that is a simple matter of reviewing the 10 years of Dame being straight-forward with his statements and follow-thru.

I'm convinced Dame's issues were with Olshey. I don't think he trusted Olshey or respected him; and with plenty of good reason. I don't think Olshey gave a **** about putting a contender around Dame, trying to do it would be higher risk and that was the opposite of olshey's risk-averse-ego-driven style...and Dame knew that. That's why 4 years ago Dame went over Olshey's head and talked to Paul Allen about the direction of the team and what the plan was.

the media is who it was that focused the attention on the extension; and the media focused on it because olshey put it out there in a snake-oil sour-grapes fashion. Blaming Dame for not signing an extension that very well may have not been offered yet is crazy

there may even be a mutual agreement between Dame and the Blazers to wait on the extension; from Dame's POV to see what the team looks like and from the Blazer POV to see how Dame recovers from his surgery. That actually makes sense for both sides. Obviously, Dame might sign an extension next week. But he's sure as hell not being an ahole and not squeezing the team by not signing it yet

[Wizenheimer]

If Utah can get 4 FRP (three unprotected) for Gobert, how many can Portland get for Dame?

Portland traded 2 firsts for RoCo...how many did they get when they traded RoCo?

[m0ng0]

To me the extensions is not negotiable, either you want it or you don't, if Dame was not squeezing the team intentionally or subliminally he would have have signed already. They drafted Sharpe whom it was said Dame wanted, they traded for Grant whom again it was said Dame wanted, he made no opinion on Nurk (whom seems to be a friend) or Simon's. I have no idea about Payton. So I'm theory it seems Cronin is doing his best to appease him and now Dame won't sign.

Spin it however you want but it seems the team has been acting in good faith and now Dame is playing games. Maybe the Durant news has got him thinking about other options but it seems pretty **** at this point in the game to pull this crap. Mind you this is all gut feeling.

[m0ng0]

Quite honestly if I was Cronin I would pull the offer, we don't have time for this hokey pokey bull, your in or out and if your out than how does Orlando sound? Really disappointed in good old Dame Dolla...

This hokey pokey bull has cost us a year of development already. If he as out we trade him, we don't trade for Grant and we probably draft again in the top 10 this year and have a plan developed for the future.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

I think one can drive themselves crazy believing certain things are inevitable before they happen. Dame has years left on his contract so I don't think we need to be worried about the breakup just yet.

[Butter]

I think one can drive themselves crazy believing certain things are inevitable before they happen. Dame has years left on his contract so I don't think we need to be worried about the breakup just yet.

Dame has been through the "reload, but not rebuild" several times. I bet he's waiting to see how This current "reload" gels before he signs the extension.

[Blazinaway]

Quite honestly if I was Cronin I would pull the offer, we don't have time for this hokey pokey bull, your in or out and if your out than how does Orlando sound? Really disappointed in good old Dame Dolla...

This hokey pokey bull has cost us a year of development already. If he as out we trade him, we don't trade for Grant and we probably draft again in the top 10 this year and have a plan developed for the future.

I have no problem pulling or not making the offer, frankly I do not want a 35/36 yr old Dame making 55 mil per yr, yeah let's hamstring the team even more. I would trade him if a good deal came along now or more likely at the deadline or next summer - my opinion is this team will not do anything as far as the playoffs go as currently constructed. Also, wouldn't it make it harder to trade him with that extension? Nothing against Dame as he has been a great player to watch and a good guy, but at day's end it is a business. I'd also like to see him have a better chance to win a title and as I said I don't see it happening here, so a trade for me is a win/win for Dame and the Blazers

[Goldbum]

I can't say 100% but Dame has some roots here. He may have just been making a sideways comment on Gobert...

[Wizenheimer]

Spin it however you want but it seems the team has been acting in good faith and now Dame is playing games.

what are the "games" Dame is playing?

[soobias]

Quite honestly if I was Cronin I would pull the offer, we don't have time for this hokey pokey bull, your in or out and if your out than how does Orlando sound? Really disappointed in good old Dame Dolla...

This hokey pokey bull has cost us a year of development already. If he as out we trade him, we don't trade for Grant and we probably draft again in the top 10 this year and have a plan developed for the future.

I have no problem pulling or not making the offer, frankly I do not want a 35/36 yr old Dame making 55 mil per yr, yeah let's hamstring the team even more. I would trade him if a good deal came along now or more likely at the deadline or next summer - my opinion is this team will not do anything as far as the playoffs go as currently constructed. Also, wouldn't it make it harder to trade him with that extension? Nothing against Dame as he has been a great player to watch and a good guy, but at day's end it is a business. I'd also like to see him have a better chance to win a title and as I said I don't see it happening here, so a trade for me is a win/win for Dame and the Blazers

my thoughts exactly.