Trade back for Lillard?

[DusterBuster]

What if Lillard can't play due to the blood clot issue? Does a team that has his contract get some relief get some relief from apron consequences? I'm thinking of the old Darius Miles exception (I'm aware that Miles backstabbed Portland by coming back to play; just wondering what the current rule is).

It was Brandon Roy I believe that you're thinking of here, not Miles. Unless Miles did that too... my memory is a little fuzzy.

I also am confused why people keep talking about this blood clot issue like it's a career ender or potential career ended. The only one where this really was a problem was Bosh, but it was also due to where his clot was located (near heart) which made it more dangerous. Dame's is nowhere near that and once its gone, it's basically just something you manage and your fine.

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[dunlop212]

Apparently academic now, but the contract I was thinking of was with Miles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darius_Miles
But now that you mention it, I think that Roy had a similar situation.

[DusterBuster]

Apparently academic now, but the contract I was thinking of was with Miles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darius_Miles
But now that you mention it, I think that Roy had a similar situation.

We may have both been right, amnesty rules were a thing in two CBAs. Roy had the bigger contract and signed with Minny, which is why his deal went back on the books for a bit iirc? I could be wrong tho... I'm old lol.

[DaVoiceMaster]

You're not wrong.

[Case2012]

Dame and Haliburton got into it, game 2 is gonna be vintage Lillard. I miss him so much, **** Allen and Kolde.I still can't believe did that crap.

[DusterBuster]

Dame and Haliburton got into it, game 2 is gonna be vintage Lillard. I miss him so much, **** Allen and Kolde.I still can't believe did that crap.

Yeah

[m0ng0]

Dame and Haliburton got into it, game 2 is gonna be vintage Lillard. I miss him so much, **** Allen and Kolde.I still can't believe did that crap.

Hmmm.... does not appear to be the gunfight you thought it would be. 0-2 great one
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[Sinobas]

The Bucks are in a tight spot. If the Bucks get bounced in the 1st round again, do you really think they are going to run it back a 3rd time without substantial changes?

85% of their cap space will be taken by Lillard, Giannis and Kuzma alone.

Yet Giannis is a bit old to be going through a complete rebuild. Would the be willing to take on Jerami Grant for expirings in an effort to get better? Or will they trade both Dame and Giannis and try and get a haul?

[DusterBuster]

The Bucks are in a tight spot. If the Bucks get bounced in the 1st round again, do you really think they are going to run it back a 3rd time without substantial changes?

85% of their cap space will be taken by Lillard, Giannis and Kuzma alone.

Yet Giannis is a bit old to be going through a complete rebuild. Would the be willing to take on Jerami Grant for expirings in an effort to get better? Or will they trade both Dame and Giannis and try and get a haul?

I don’t think Giannis is gonna give the Bucks a choice this summer if they get swept or lose in 5 jn the first round.

[Case2012]

Dame and Haliburton got into it, game 2 is gonna be vintage Lillard. I miss him so much, **** Allen and Kolde.I still can't believe did that crap.

Hmmm.... does not appear to be the gunfight you thought it would be. 0-2 great one
.

Keep it in your pants homie, I know how excited you get when you find an opportunity to make a little passive jab at Lillard but it was his First game back in a month.


He's gonna go off one of these games, my guess would be Friday.

[Case2012]

Watching Lillard in Bucks games is so weird because Rivers has no clue how to use Dame, I honestly think either Rivers is fired or Dame asks for a trade because he does not play his style of ball there and his body language doesn't read like he's happy there. I'm guessing he ends up in Miami unless there's a coaching change.

I would offer them Ant, Grant and Ayton plus their picks back for Dame and Portis but I doubt he would come back willingly with Jody, Bert and 2 faced Joe still here especially after not sending him to Miami.

Dame/Scoot
Thybulle/Sharpe
Camara/Clifford
Deni/Portis
Clingan/RW

IFFFF RW stay healthy, that team looks very nice. Dame has 2 years left and we give it one more shot with the best roster he's had.

I think Grant and Ant would work very well there, since Ant can play off ball better than Dame and Grant gives them scoring and defense from the 3 that they miss from Middleton. Kuzma was a bad choice. Losing Beasley was tough too but they get that shooting back from Ant.

Ant/Connaughton
Trent/Green
Grant/Prince
Giannis/Kuzma
Ayton/Lopez

I think this works pretty nicely for Giannis. They break Lillard up into 3 players and gives them the depth they need. That's an additional 40-50 points a game easily and they need scoring. They need to ditch Rivers though regardless.


Alternatively, I would give them every pick possible (we'd have to get our picks back) and every player we have outside Camara, and Deni for Both Dame and Giannis. I still wonder if Giannis is not a good pairing with Dame though.

Dame
Camara
Deni
Giannis
Ayton?

That's better than Mil currently.

[m0ng0]

Yeah that's brilliant!!! Give up everything for 2 players that can't seem to coexist in Milwaukee. Keep playing 2k. Maybe we could get Luka for Grant and maybe Ant for Tatum? Sweet Jesus your on fire bro!!!

[DaVoiceMaster]

I'd love to see Giannis and Lillard here.

[Tim Lehrbach]

I remain a big Lillard fan, am grateful for his years in Portland, and never wanted to see him go. But it's over. The team can't re-acquire him without giving up substantial assets, and he's no longer the right investment for the direction of this team. Even if Dame regrets asking out and/or the team regrets moving him, there's no deal Milwaukee would accept that makes sense for Portland.

Could I see a day where he returns to finish off his career? Maybe, but even that's a challenge because I don't see him continuing his career once the Brinks truck is down to its last few stacks.

[Sinobas]

I would offer them Ant, Grant and Ayton plus their picks back for Dame and Portis but I doubt he would come back willingly with Jody, Bert and 2 faced Joe still here especially after not sending him to Miami.

Based on what? I've only heard him say he would like to return to Portland, and comments that he regrets asking for a trade. He even stated that he'd love to have been able to play with the current roster. It's a different situation now. Portland has already used his value and his absence to acquire Avdija, Camara and Clingan. Year 1 of 2 would be a total financial wash.

Damian would be a massive upgrade at PG, and we're going to be losing our 1st anyway. It would also give Scoot a couple more years to develop.

[Sinobas]

I remain a big Lillard fan, am grateful for his years in Portland, and never wanted to see him go. But it's over. The team can't re-acquire him without giving up substantial assets, and he's no longer the right investment for the direction of this team. Even if Dame regrets asking out and/or the team regrets moving him, there's no deal Milwaukee would accept that makes sense for Portland.

Could I see a day where he returns to finish off his career? Maybe, but even that's a challenge because I don't see him continuing his career once the Brinks truck is down to its last few stacks.

What is his value right now, at his age/salary? It's less than it was 2 years ago certainly. The expiring contracts Portland could offer, would actually be useful to the Bucks as well.

We'd have to throw in some draft capital, perhaps cancelling the 2028 swap, when they will likely be in the midst of a rebuild.

[PDXKnight]

I remain a big Lillard fan, am grateful for his years in Portland, and never wanted to see him go. But it's over. The team can't re-acquire him without giving up substantial assets, and he's no longer the right investment for the direction of this team. Even if Dame regrets asking out and/or the team regrets moving him, there's no deal Milwaukee would accept that makes sense for Portland.

Could I see a day where he returns to finish off his career? Maybe, but even that's a challenge because I don't see him continuing his career once the Brinks truck is down to its last few stacks.

What is his value right now, at his age/salary? It's less than it was 2 years ago certainly. The expiring contracts Portland could offer, would actually be useful to the Bucks as well.

We'd have to throw in some draft capital, perhaps cancelling the 2028 swap, when they will likely be in the midst of a rebuild.

That could be a top 5 pick if things turn south out in bucks land. Additionally its taking on another year of max salary when shaedon might well be getting an extension which with other signings could put us close to the tax. Why not just wait 2 years till he's a fa if he really wants to return here?

[BlazersBroncos]

No way in hell do I give MIL their picks back for Dame. Those are going to be lotto slots once Giannis asks out and with Dame declining.

I would see if they want to swap Kuzma + Pat for Grant so we can escape a year of Jerami - even if Kuz is a bum.