Hansen Yang

[Wizenheimer]

Ha had hype??? I don't recall anyone referring to him as the Chinese Shaq.

he has been caller, many times, the Chinese Jokic. It's nuts

the out of control hype train about Yang came after the draft:

some of the over-the-top video titles:

* "Chinese Jokic DOMINATES Summer League!"

* "This Chinese NBA Player Has Taken The World BY STORM"

(LOL... he averaged 11 point and 5 rebounds with as many turnovers as assists. That's pretty much the the opposite of dominating)

* "The Chinese Jokic Just Made Them All Look Stupid"

* "Who Let The Blazers Get Away With Yang Hansen?"

* "Two 7-Foot GIANTS Who Will Change the NBA Foreverr" (Wemby & Yang; try not to gag)

* "Yang Hansen, the NEXT BEST Big Passer in the NBA!"

* "Yang Hansen Summer League Debut Was INSANE!"

* "Yang Hansen Did THIS And Shocked The Entire World!"

* "Yang Hansen’s IQ Will Crush Athleticism in the NBA"

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=yang+hansen

130 summer league players averaged more points; 92 averaged more rebounds. 177 had a higher FG%

I liked some of the things I saw Yang do in SL. But he was a weak rebounder and a turnover machine. But you couldn't tell that from the loopy video titles

[BNM]

Ha had hype??? I don't recall anyone referring to him as the Chinese Shaq.

he has been caller, many times, the Chinese Jokic. It's nuts

the out of control hype train about Yang came after the draft:

some of the over-the-top video titles:

* "Chinese Jokic DOMINATES Summer League!"

* "This Chinese NBA Player Has Taken The World BY STORM"

(LOL... he averaged 11 point and 5 rebounds with as many turnovers as assists. That's pretty much the the opposite of dominating)

* "The Chinese Jokic Just Made Them All Look Stupid"

* "Who Let The Blazers Get Away With Yang Hansen?"

* "Two 7-Foot GIANTS Who Will Change the NBA Foreverr" (Wemby & Yang; try not to gag)

* "Yang Hansen, the NEXT BEST Big Passer in the NBA!"

* "Yang Hansen Summer League Debut Was INSANE!"

* "Yang Hansen Did THIS And Shocked The Entire World!"

* "Yang Hansen’s IQ Will Crush Athleticism in the NBA"

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=yang+hansen

130 summer league players averaged more points; 92 averaged more rebounds. 177 had a higher FG%

I liked some of the things I saw Yang do in SL. But he was a weak rebounder and a turnover machine. But you couldn't tell that from the loopy video titles

Slow down and read the post you responded to before launching into a thesis length reply that has nothin to do with the subject of the post: Ha Seung-Jin.

[Wizenheimer]

Ha had hype??? I don't recall anyone referring to him as the Chinese Shaq.

he has been caller, many times, the Chinese Jokic. It's nuts

the out of control hype train about Yang came after the draft:

some of the over-the-top video titles:

* "Chinese Jokic DOMINATES Summer League!"

* "This Chinese NBA Player Has Taken The World BY STORM"

(LOL... he averaged 11 point and 5 rebounds with as many turnovers as assists. That's pretty much the the opposite of dominating)

* "The Chinese Jokic Just Made Them All Look Stupid"

* "Who Let The Blazers Get Away With Yang Hansen?"

* "Two 7-Foot GIANTS Who Will Change the NBA Foreverr" (Wemby & Yang; try not to gag)

* "Yang Hansen, the NEXT BEST Big Passer in the NBA!"

* "Yang Hansen Summer League Debut Was INSANE!"

* "Yang Hansen Did THIS And Shocked The Entire World!"

* "Yang Hansen’s IQ Will Crush Athleticism in the NBA"

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=yang+hansen

130 summer league players averaged more points; 92 averaged more rebounds. 177 had a higher FG%

I liked some of the things I saw Yang do in SL. But he was a weak rebounder and a turnover machine. But you couldn't tell that from the loopy video titles

Slow down and read the post you responded to before launching into a thesis length reply that has nothin to do with the subject of the post: Ha Seung-Jin.

sorry for the tangent....I was thinking that in a thread with the title "Hansen Yang" talking about Yang was on-topic

[BNM]

he has been caller, many times, the Chinese Jokic. It's nuts

the out of control hype train about Yang came after the draft:

some of the over-the-top video titles:

* "Chinese Jokic DOMINATES Summer League!"

* "This Chinese NBA Player Has Taken The World BY STORM"

(LOL... he averaged 11 point and 5 rebounds with as many turnovers as assists. That's pretty much the the opposite of dominating)

* "The Chinese Jokic Just Made Them All Look Stupid"

* "Who Let The Blazers Get Away With Yang Hansen?"

* "Two 7-Foot GIANTS Who Will Change the NBA Foreverr" (Wemby & Yang; try not to gag)

* "Yang Hansen, the NEXT BEST Big Passer in the NBA!"

* "Yang Hansen Summer League Debut Was INSANE!"

* "Yang Hansen Did THIS And Shocked The Entire World!"

* "Yang Hansen’s IQ Will Crush Athleticism in the NBA"

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=yang+hansen

130 summer league players averaged more points; 92 averaged more rebounds. 177 had a higher FG%

I liked some of the things I saw Yang do in SL. But he was a weak rebounder and a turnover machine. But you couldn't tell that from the loopy video titles

Slow down and read the post you responded to before launching into a thesis length reply that has nothin to do with the subject of the post: Ha Seung-Jin.

sorry for the tangent....I was thinking that in a thread with the title "Hansen Yang" talking about Yang was on-topic

On topic for the thread, but 100% off topic for the post you quoted. The poster I replied to calls Yang Ha2 and said like Ha1 he’s received unwarranted hype.

Again, slow down and read the reply before you attempt to flex your vast knowledge. At the very least, someone who has regularly been post novel length replies in this forum would have known that Pape Sow wasn’t drafted after Hansen Yang.

[Norm2953]

Yang apparently had a promise from the Nets to go 19 so he wasn't a total reach and has been on the
radar of scouts for years.

Assuming TL is able to play some this season, Yang is likely going to spend some time in the G league, for
he needs to play. He needs to time to adjust to a new country and to learn the language and it would not
be a surprise if this was a "redshirt" season. Reath could be the backup center if the team decides to go
slow with him

[Wizenheimer]

Spoiler:

Slow down and read the post you responded to before launching into a thesis length reply that has nothin to do with the subject of the post: Ha Seung-Jin.

sorry for the tangent....I was thinking that in a thread with the title "Hansen Yang" talking about Yang was on-topic

On topic for the thread, but 100% off topic for the post you quoted. The poster I replied to calls Yang Ha2 and said like Ha1 he’s received unwarranted hype.

Again, slow down and read the reply before you attempt to flex your vast knowledge. At the very least, someone who has regularly been post novel length replies in this forum would have known that Pape Sow wasn’t drafted after Hansen Yang.

and I was not only on topic for the thread, but on topic for your debate with another poster as I was pointing out the hype that Yang has received

[mojomarc]

Spoiler:

sorry for the tangent....I was thinking that in a thread with the title "Hansen Yang" talking about Yang was on-topic

On topic for the thread, but 100% off topic for the post you quoted. The poster I replied to calls Yang Ha2 and said like Ha1 he’s received unwarranted hype.

Again, slow down and read the reply before you attempt to flex your vast knowledge. At the very least, someone who has regularly been post novel length replies in this forum would have known that Pape Sow wasn’t drafted after Hansen Yang.

and I was not only on topic for the thread, but on topic for your debate with another poster as I was pointing out the hype that Yang has received

Yeah--especially when the hype should be "Wilt Chamberlain 2.0" for crissakes!!! Bring on the 100 point games and a center leading the league in assists!!!!!

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Ha never had much hype. The hype for Yang is on a different level. Ha was never called the Chinese jokic (timeline makes no sense).

So when a poster compared the two they erroneously suggested that Ha had similar hype to what we have seen with Yang and that was the claim being pushed back, because Ha in fact did not get much hype nor ever had any real expectations.

No one is saying Yang doesn't have hype, of course he has a crazy amount of hype. If that is what you thought was being said I suggest going back over the context of the conversation. You two literally are saying the same thing though, that Yang has a ton of hype around him.

To sum up the misunderstanding here, the quote from BNM is about Ha and your response is about Yang. I think this is as simple as misreading "Ha" as "he" and thinking it referred to Yang.

Spoiler:

Ha had hype??? I don't recall anyone referring to him as the Chinese Shaq.

he has been caller, many times, the Chinese Jokic. It's nuts

the out of control hype train about Yang came after the draft:

some of the over-the-top video titles:

* "Chinese Jokic DOMINATES Summer League!"

* "This Chinese NBA Player Has Taken The World BY STORM"

(LOL... he averaged 11 point and 5 rebounds with as many turnovers as assists. That's pretty much the the opposite of dominating)

* "The Chinese Jokic Just Made Them All Look Stupid"

* "Who Let The Blazers Get Away With Yang Hansen?"

* "Two 7-Foot GIANTS Who Will Change the NBA Foreverr" (Wemby & Yang; try not to gag)

* "Yang Hansen, the NEXT BEST Big Passer in the NBA!"

* "Yang Hansen Summer League Debut Was INSANE!"

* "Yang Hansen Did THIS And Shocked The Entire World!"

* "Yang Hansen’s IQ Will Crush Athleticism in the NBA"

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=yang+hansen

130 summer league players averaged more points; 92 averaged more rebounds. 177 had a higher FG%

I liked some of the things I saw Yang do in SL. But he was a weak rebounder and a turnover machine. But you couldn't tell that from the loopy video titles

[zzaj]

My hot take is that we're going to see quite a bit of Yang as the Blazer starting Center this year, not because of skill, but because of injury or time missed by Clingan (knock on wood) and Timelord (that wood cracked a long time ago). I doubt Yang sniffs the Gleague.

"Broke"ic needs to not just team rebound, primary and secondary defend without fouling, and get used to NBA defensive spacing and speed before he has any kind of real meaningful impact on games. That's a tall order.

[BNM]

Spoiler:

sorry for the tangent....I was thinking that in a thread with the title "Hansen Yang" talking about Yang was on-topic

On topic for the thread, but 100% off topic for the post you quoted. The poster I replied to calls Yang Ha2 and said like Ha1 he’s received unwarranted hype.

Again, slow down and read the reply before you attempt to flex your vast knowledge. At the very least, someone who has regularly been post novel length replies in this forum would have known that Pape Sow wasn’t drafted after Hansen Yang.

and I was not only on topic for the thread, but on topic for your debate with another poster as I was pointing out the hype that Yang has received

Yes, we all know Yang has received a ton of unrealistic hype. We also know you know how to use a search engine, or hopefully, AI at this point.

To be truly useful, run your same query on Ha Seung-Jin hype and prove that Ha did, or did not, receive similar unwarranted hype to Yang. Maybe even start a separate thread with a poll (I’m firmly in the did not camp - which was the point of my initial reply).

[Wizenheimer]

Yes, we all know Yang has received a ton of unrealistic hype. We also know you know how to use a search engine, or hopefully, AI at this point.

To be truly useful, run your same query on Ha Seung-Jin hype and prove that Ha did, or did not, receive similar unwarranted hype to Yang. Maybe even start a separate thread with a poll (I’m firmly in the did not camp - which was the point of my initial reply).

you do the search, it's your argument, not mine....I don't give a sht about Ha although the Ha thread was something special. Somebody mentioned unwarranted hype--->Yang in a thread about Yang and I just riffed on that

[Wizenheimer]

Ha never had much hype. The hype for Yang is on a different level. Ha was never called the Chinese jokic (timeline makes no sense).

So when a poster compared the two they erroneously suggested that Ha had similar hype to what we have seen with Yang and that was the claim being pushed back, because Ha in fact did not get much hype nor ever had any real expectations.

No one is saying Yang doesn't have hype, of course he has a crazy amount of hype. If that is what you thought was being said I suggest going back over the context of the conversation. You two literally are saying the same thing though, that Yang has a ton of hype around him.

To sum up the misunderstanding here, the quote from BNM is about Ha and your response is about Yang. I think this is as simple as misreading "Ha" as "he" and thinking it referred to Yang.

if it helps any I could go back and delete the quote(s) that led into my post. Personally, I've NEVER noticed threads being confined to the latest mini-argument inside the thread. Discussions around here are a lot more free-wheeling and bi-polar.

I know that about 18 gagillion times people have replied to posts I've made and immediately charged down tangents and hired straw men while grinding their favorite axes. Ive done it too (I was always looking for an excuse to trash Olshey) I didn't expect BNM to get offended, especially since I didn't take a side in his Ha vs Yang kerfuffle with JS

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Ha never had much hype. The hype for Yang is on a different level. Ha was never called the Chinese jokic (timeline makes no sense).

So when a poster compared the two they erroneously suggested that Ha had similar hype to what we have seen with Yang and that was the claim being pushed back, because Ha in fact did not get much hype nor ever had any real expectations.

No one is saying Yang doesn't have hype, of course he has a crazy amount of hype. If that is what you thought was being said I suggest going back over the context of the conversation. You two literally are saying the same thing though, that Yang has a ton of hype around him.

To sum up the misunderstanding here, the quote from BNM is about Ha and your response is about Yang. I think this is as simple as misreading "Ha" as "he" and thinking it referred to Yang.

if it helps any I could go back and delete the quote(s) that led into my post. Personally, I've NEVER noticed threads being confined to the latest mini-argument inside the thread. Discussions around here are a lot more free-wheeling and bi-polar.

I know that about 18 gagillion times people have replied to posts I've made and immediately charged down tangents and hired straw men while grinding their favorite axes. Ive done it too (I was always looking for an excuse to trash Olshey) I didn't expect BNM to get offended, especially since I didn't take a side in his Ha vs Yang kerfuffle with JS

I think it's a fair point that Yangs hype has far exceeded anything he's shown so far but I think the vast majority of that is content creators wanting to cash in on easy views from a large market rather than a natural and organic process from the fan base. It's like we just cannot look at media these days and think those opinions portrayed are representative of real people's opinions, it's all about making money, not about telling a true story.

Only reason I chimed in is I think we are all on the same page, Yang is receiving a ton of hype, no one is denying that. I think any disagreement is about how much hype Ha received back in the day, to my memory it was very little and thus not comparable to what is happening with Yang.

[Wizenheimer]

Ha never had much hype. The hype for Yang is on a different level. Ha was never called the Chinese jokic (timeline makes no sense).

So when a poster compared the two they erroneously suggested that Ha had similar hype to what we have seen with Yang and that was the claim being pushed back, because Ha in fact did not get much hype nor ever had any real expectations.

No one is saying Yang doesn't have hype, of course he has a crazy amount of hype. If that is what you thought was being said I suggest going back over the context of the conversation. You two literally are saying the same thing though, that Yang has a ton of hype around him.

To sum up the misunderstanding here, the quote from BNM is about Ha and your response is about Yang. I think this is as simple as misreading "Ha" as "he" and thinking it referred to Yang.

if it helps any I could go back and delete the quote(s) that led into my post. Personally, I've NEVER noticed threads being confined to the latest mini-argument inside the thread. Discussions around here are a lot more free-wheeling and bi-polar.

I know that about 18 gagillion times people have replied to posts I've made and immediately charged down tangents and hired straw men while grinding their favorite axes. Ive done it too (I was always looking for an excuse to trash Olshey) I didn't expect BNM to get offended, especially since I didn't take a side in his Ha vs Yang kerfuffle with JS

I think it's a fair point that Yangs hype has far exceeded anything he's shown so far but I think the vast majority of that is content creators wanting to cash in on easy views from a large market rather than a natural and organic process from the fan base. It's like we just cannot look at media these days and think those opinions portrayed are representative of real people's opinions, it's all about making money, not about telling a true story.

Only reason I chimed in is I think we are all on the same page, Yang is receiving a ton of hype, no one is denying that. I think any disagreement is about how much hype Ha received back in the day, to my memory it was very little and thus not comparable to what is happening with Yang.

like I said...I kind of wanted to talk about the hype around Yang, and I just saw an opportunity. I'm kind of sorry I quoted anybody instead of just posting

[BNM]

if it helps any I could go back and delete the quote(s) that led into my post. Personally, I've NEVER noticed threads being confined to the latest mini-argument inside the thread. Discussions around here are a lot more free-wheeling and bi-polar.

I know that about 18 gagillion times people have replied to posts I've made and immediately charged down tangents and hired straw men while grinding their favorite axes. Ive done it too (I was always looking for an excuse to trash Olshey) I didn't expect BNM to get offended, especially since I didn't take a side in his Ha vs Yang kerfuffle with JS

I think it's a fair point that Yangs hype has far exceeded anything he's shown so far but I think the vast majority of that is content creators wanting to cash in on easy views from a large market rather than a natural and organic process from the fan base. It's like we just cannot look at media these days and think those opinions portrayed are representative of real people's opinions, it's all about making money, not about telling a true story.

Only reason I chimed in is I think we are all on the same page, Yang is receiving a ton of hype, no one is denying that. I think any disagreement is about how much hype Ha received back in the day, to my memory it was very little and thus not comparable to what is happening with Yang.

like I said...I kind of wanted to talk about the hype around Yang, and I just saw an opportunity. I'm kind of sorry I quoted anybody instead of just posting

Exactly. Why quote someone if you’re not responding to what they wrote?

[Wizenheimer]

I think it's a fair point that Yangs hype has far exceeded anything he's shown so far but I think the vast majority of that is content creators wanting to cash in on easy views from a large market rather than a natural and organic process from the fan base. It's like we just cannot look at media these days and think those opinions portrayed are representative of real people's opinions, it's all about making money, not about telling a true story.

Only reason I chimed in is I think we are all on the same page, Yang is receiving a ton of hype, no one is denying that. I think any disagreement is about how much hype Ha received back in the day, to my memory it was very little and thus not comparable to what is happening with Yang.

like I said...I kind of wanted to talk about the hype around Yang, and I just saw an opportunity. I'm kind of sorry I quoted anybody instead of just posting

Exactly. Why quote someone if you’re not responding to what they wrote?

I already showed you that I did actually respond to what you wrote. You mentioned Yang, and you mentioned hype, which is exactly what I posted about. I just didn't participate in the argument you were having with another poster

I get it...you were offended....I don't care at this point. I might wait for your next post and do it again

[BNM]

like I said...I kind of wanted to talk about the hype around Yang, and I just saw an opportunity. I'm kind of sorry I quoted anybody instead of just posting

Exactly. Why quote someone if you’re not responding to what they wrote?

I already showed you that I did actually respond to what you wrote. You mentioned Yang, and you mentioned hype, which is exactly what I posted about. I just didn't participate in the argument you were having with another poster

I get it...you were offended....I don't care at this point. I might wait for your next post and do it again

This is the exact passage you quoted:

BNM wrote:
Ha had hype??? I don't recall anyone referring to him as the Chinese Shaq.

Do you see Yang’s name in that quote?

The only name in that quote is Ha. You responded with a 16 paragraph reply and didn’t mention Ha once.

So no, you did not reply to what you quoted.

Not a single person in this thread has claimed Yang hasn’t been excessively hyped. Whatever point you thought you were making was never in dispute. You’re arguing with imaginary adversaries and tilting at windmills.

[Case2012]

It's just content creators cashing in. It's pretty funny actually. But they do it for every team. They all have titles like, "The insane slept on moves the Wizards made that will shock the NBA".

Yang will be fun to watch and root for but he's not gonna be a starting center and I would be shocked if he makes it to a second contract, unless the money he brings in from China is too good to not give him a roster spot.

Yes we got a pick for him but do we really trust these scouts? My hope is we use those picks in a big trade, that's the only thing that makes sense. Yang and a late first round player<Coward who will in my eyes be a starting 2/3 for the next decade, which is a really good player. Not to mention all the players picked after him.

I'm hoping for the best, but let's be real here. He'll have some holy crap passes here and there but get abused on defense and useless on offense against starting centers.

[Wizenheimer]

Spoiler:

Exactly. Why quote someone if you’re not responding to what they wrote?

I already showed you that I did actually respond to what you wrote. You mentioned Yang, and you mentioned hype, which is exactly what I posted about. I just didn't participate in the argument you were having with another poster

I get it...you were offended....I don't care at this point. I might wait for your next post and do it again

This is the exact passage you quoted:

BNM wrote:
Ha had hype??? I don't recall anyone referring to him as the Chinese Shaq.

Do you see Yang’s name in that quote?

The only name in that quote is Ha. You responded with a 16 paragraph reply and didn’t mention Ha once.

So no, you did not reply to what you quoted.

Not a single person in this thread has claimed Yang hasn’t been excessively hyped. Whatever point you thought you were making was never in dispute. You’re arguing with imaginary adversaries and tilting at windmills.

so fcking what? does it matter one bit to anybody but you?...quit trying to Matlock me because I don't give a sht.

so I was lazy and didn't include your entire post where you mentioned Yang and hype. mea culpa....which, by the way, I've said already in different forms. That's as far as I'm going to go. But I had already been talking about Yang and hype with several other posters before you entered the thread

and when you first responded to me you shot some snark my direction, so game on; that's ok, I can appreciate good snark. I've certainly noticed that you have used your own "paragraphs' to whine about my paragraphs. Wut? People have tried to shut me down for the length of my posts since I stated here, 18 years ago, It hasn't worked once, but maybe you'll break thru and make me ashamed.....then again, maybe not. I guess you could sue me for some type of misrepresentation. Or have me whacked.

3 more paragraphs to complain about...wait, does this make a fourth?

[oldfishermen]

I am not worried about Yang developing. He will give 110% effort to become the best player he can be.

My concern is Billups, and how he will fit Yang into the game plan, when Yang is ready. Getting the most out of Yang will be a huge test for Billups, and how much he has developed as a coach.

My guess is, Billups will have a season, or two, before Yang is ready to make a positive impact. Any longer than that, well......something went wrong.