Twitter Trade Rumor Roundup

[HoopsFanAZ]

With Brooklyn, it all depends on how much of their roster is left to realistically challenge for
a playoff spot.

I would still make the trade heavy in picks/swaps and would ask for Dinwiddie and DFS. Claxton
is heading into his contract season and is about to get paid next summer and it might be easier
to complete a deal without Nurk/Claxton in the deal.

While Brooklyn would likely want to keep Claxton out of it, they can kick rocks. They’d get Dame!
CamJohnson is 27 and would help with wins on either team and has had a cup of coffee with the Nets. Claxton is 24.
Grant (29) going elsewhere is highly likely with Nurkic and Dame gone, so replenishing with a young, athletic big and a vet entering his prime is good value with all the picks. The Blazers will lose ANY trade for Dame. Younger value now + the hope the picks have value later is about the best to hope for.

Leaving veterans in Brooklyn at around age 30 (even with only a year on contract) for them to compete is better for them than additional wins for the Blazers. Cam would have to agree to S&T. Simmons has 2 years left, so Portland can wait for him to exit OR maybe he figures it out … biggggg maybe.

[JKiddy]

The Nets prefer Claxton over Nurk so I think Claxton will get paid and stay in BK. They just won't do it in my mind.

Dame for Harris, Dinwiddie, and 2 valuable unprotected (or minor protected) picks and a 1st round swap seems like what both teams would potentially do.

[Norm2953]

As I wrote earlier, I prefer Dinwiddie, DFS and Sharpe + the usual picks/swaps in a Dame
trade to Brooklyn. Make the trade more about the picks/swaps

Leaves Brooklyn reasonably intact to make a playoff run while Portland with Dinwiddie/DFS
would be getting two guys who would be in their playing rotation and might start at the
beginning of the season, if either Scoot or Sharpe aren't ready to play 30+ MP in
November

[Butter]

The Nets prefer Claxton over Nurk so I think Claxton will get paid and stay in BK. They just won't do it in my mind.

Dame for Harris, Dinwiddie, and 2 valuable unprotected (or minor protected) picks and a 1st round swap seems like what both teams would potentially do.

The big equalizer to convince the Nets to include Claxton is Simmons. If the Blazers are dumping their other BIG contracts, they could potentially afford to bring his contract over. They don't even need to bring him into the locker room, they could just cut him and eat his contract.

[GEE]

Think you're thinking it's Beal we're talking about Kiddy and not Dame. Portland can send Dame wherever they want. Sending him to BRK would be a huge courtesy, considering there will be several offers from several different team.

Just like with MIAMI, We don't need to take a crap return for our HOF'er. We could always just keep him. Sellers market, with a potential bidding war my friend. Come strong or don't come at all.

I would ask for BOTH Claxton and Sharpe, while Dame would likely want Nurkic included. In my veiw it's this, or something very close to it:

Nukic / Dame <--> Simmons / Dinwiddie / Claxton / Sharpe / PICKS

[Wizenheimer]

The Nets prefer Claxton over Nurk so I think Claxton will get paid and stay in BK. They just won't do it in my mind.

Dame for Harris, Dinwiddie, and 2 valuable unprotected (or minor protected) picks and a 1st round swap seems like what both teams would potentially do.

* Donovan Mitchell was traded for Lauri Markkanen, Collin Sexton, Ochai Agbaji, three first round picks and two swaps, all unprotected

* Rudy Gobert was traded for Malik Beasely, Pat Beverly, Jared Vanderbilt, the rights to Walter Kessler (2022 1st), Four more first round picks, and a swap, all unprotected

* Kevin Durant was traded for Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Jae Crowder, four first round picks, and a swap, all unprotected

and you have the gall to come to a Blazer forum and say the Blazers would be happy to trade Damian Lillard, after the best year of his career, for the expiring contracts of Dinwiddie and Harris, plus two first round picks, maybe protected, and a swap...and that the Nets would have the leverage to make Claxton untouchable in the trade

my first reaction is kind of like gtfo....

but I'll play and make a counter-proposal:

Lillard + maybe-Nurkic/maybe-Little

for Dinwiddie + Harris + Claxton + Rights to Noah Clowney

PLUS:

* 2025 Phoenix first
* best of 2027 Phoenix and Philly first's
* 2028 Brooklyn first
* best of 2029 Dallas and Brooklyn first's

all unprotected....just like all the recent blockbuster trades. I was going to ask for the 2030 Brooklyn first but I figured that would cross the line from fair to too much

[Jsun947]

The Nets prefer Claxton over Nurk so I think Claxton will get paid and stay in BK. They just won't do it in my mind.

Dame for Harris, Dinwiddie, and 2 valuable unprotected (or minor protected) picks and a 1st round swap seems like what both teams would potentially do.

* Donovan Mitchell was traded for Lauri Markkanen, Collin Sexton, Ochai Agbaji, three first round picks and two swaps, all unprotected

* Rudy Gobert was traded for Malik Beasely, Pat Beverly, Jared Vanderbilt, the rights to Walter Kessler (2022 1st), Four more first round picks, and a swap, all unprotected

* Kevin Durant was traded for Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Jae Crowder, four first round picks, and a swap, all unprotected

and you have the gall to come to a Blazer forum and say the Blazers would be happy to trade Damian Lillard, after the best year of his career, for the expiring contracts of Dinwiddie and Harris, plus two first round picks, maybe protected, and a swap...and that the Nets would have the leverage to make Claxton untouchable in the trade

my first reaction is kind of like gtfo....

but I'll play and make a counter-proposal:

Lillard + maybe-Nurkic/maybe-Little

for Dinwiddie + Harris + Claxton + Rights to Noah Clowney

PLUS:

* 2025 Phoenix first
* best of 2027 Phoenix and Philly first's
* 2028 Brooklyn first
* best of 2029 Dallas and Brooklyn first's

all unprotected....just like all the recent blockbuster trades. I was going to ask for the 2030 Brooklyn first but I figured that would cross the line from fair to too much

This seems more reasonable to me, and the more rotation useful, or young players the Nets want to keep the more picks and swaps it will cost them.

[Wizenheimer]

Spoiler:

The Nets prefer Claxton over Nurk so I think Claxton will get paid and stay in BK. They just won't do it in my mind.

Dame for Harris, Dinwiddie, and 2 valuable unprotected (or minor protected) picks and a 1st round swap seems like what both teams would potentially do.

* Donovan Mitchell was traded for Lauri Markkanen, Collin Sexton, Ochai Agbaji, three first round picks and two swaps, all unprotected

* Rudy Gobert was traded for Malik Beasely, Pat Beverly, Jared Vanderbilt, the rights to Walter Kessler (2022 1st), Four more first round picks, and a swap, all unprotected

* Kevin Durant was traded for Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Jae Crowder, four first round picks, and a swap, all unprotected

and you have the gall to come to a Blazer forum and say the Blazers would be happy to trade Damian Lillard, after the best year of his career, for the expiring contracts of Dinwiddie and Harris, plus two first round picks, maybe protected, and a swap...and that the Nets would have the leverage to make Claxton untouchable in the trade

my first reaction is kind of like gtfo....

but I'll play and make a counter-proposal:

Lillard + maybe-Nurkic/maybe-Little

for Dinwiddie + Harris + Claxton + Rights to Noah Clowney

PLUS:

* 2025 Phoenix first
* best of 2027 Phoenix and Philly first's
* 2028 Brooklyn first
* best of 2029 Dallas and Brooklyn first's

all unprotected....just like all the recent blockbuster trades. I was going to ask for the 2030 Brooklyn first but I figured that would cross the line from fair to too much

This seems more reasonable to me, and the more rotation useful, or young players the Nets want to keep the more picks and swaps it will cost them.

yeah....I don't really care about Claxton. He's be a decent addition but I believe the best path forward for Portland, should they trade Dame, is to get really bad for a few more years, load up on high lottery picks from that badness, and let Cronin/Schmitz do what they seem to do best, and that's the draft

if Dame is traded I want Portland to trade Ant, Nurkic, Grant (if he's resigned) and not add any players good enough to produce wins next season that could drop the Blazers from a 4th pick to an 11th pick

[JustBuzzin]

I still think if Dame is traded it will be to a surprise team. Unlike Beal Dame doesn't have a NTC. Portland will get a much better deal for Dame than Washington got for Beal.

[DusterBuster]

The Nets prefer Claxton over Nurk so I think Claxton will get paid and stay in BK. They just won't do it in my mind.

Dame for Harris, Dinwiddie, and 2 valuable unprotected (or minor protected) picks and a 1st round swap seems like what both teams would potentially do.

and you have the gall to come to a Blazer forum and say the Blazers would be happy to trade Damian Lillard, after the best year of his career, for the expiring contracts of Dinwiddie and Harris, plus two first round picks, maybe protected, and a swap...and that the Nets would have the leverage to make Claxton untouchable in the trade

my first reaction is kind of like gtfo....

Par for the course with JKiddy. I wish he would just keep his bad takes to the Nets forum.

This isn’t the trades and transactions board. Be happy the Nets are even on Lillard’s shortlist and they have the assets to potentially get him, we don’t need you here telling us we should be happy accepting 50 cents on the dollar dude.

[DaVoiceMaster]

I still think if Dame is traded it will be to a surprise team. Unlike Beal Dame doesn't have a NTC. Portland will get a much better deal for Dame than Washington got for Beal.

The Blazers will do Lillard a solid and trade himt to a team he wants to go to. So far, we have heard that is Brooklyn and Miami. Of those two, Brooklyn can offer a far better trade package than Miami can. It's not even close.

[JustBuzzin]

I still think if Dame is traded it will be to a surprise team. Unlike Beal Dame doesn't have a NTC. Portland will get a much better deal for Dame than Washington got for Beal.

The Blazers will do Lillard a solid and trade himt to a team he wants to go to. So far, we have heard that is Brooklyn and Miami. Of those two, Brooklyn can offer a far better trade package than Miami can. It's not even close.

Even if the surprise team offers a better package?

What if Philly offers (exp) Tobias, Maxey, picks?

Denver MPJ, picks

[DaVoiceMaster]

I still think if Dame is traded it will be to a surprise team. Unlike Beal Dame doesn't have a NTC. Portland will get a much better deal for Dame than Washington got for Beal.

The Blazers will do Lillard a solid and trade himt to a team he wants to go to. So far, we have heard that is Brooklyn and Miami. Of those two, Brooklyn can offer a far better trade package than Miami can. It's not even close.

Even if the surprise team offers a better package?

What if Philly offers (exp) Tobias, Maxey, picks?

Denver MPJ, picks

It will happen if Lillard is okay with it.

[Norm2953]

There will be more than two teams that would look into the costs for Lillard.

Milwaukee would almost certainly be interested as would Philly and Boston in the east

What would be interesting is if the Utah Jazz entered the picture for he's always said he
would not be opposed to a return to where he went to school and Utah could offer
Hendricks and what amounts to filler for Dame.

[GEE]

I still think if Dame is traded it will be to a surprise team. Unlike Beal Dame doesn't have a NTC. Portland will get a much better deal for Dame than Washington got for Beal.

The Blazers will do Lillard a solid and trade himt to a team he wants to go to. So far, we have heard that is Brooklyn and Miami. Of those two, Brooklyn can offer a far better trade package than Miami can. It's not even close.

Even if the surprise team offers a better package?

What if Philly offers (exp) Tobias, Maxey, picks?

Denver MPJ, picks

There's also a path for a 3-way trade with Philly and Brooklyn, if Dame wanted Philly instead of BRK. The basic idea would be Harris to Portland which I could potentially get behind as our PF, with Maxey going to BRK for a couple FRPs that would go to us, along with a player from BRK. Variations are plenty.

[Jsun947]

Miami owes OKC a 1-14 protected pick in 2025, and if that doesn't convey it becomes unprotected in 2026. They can agree to simply make it only unprotected in 2026. In that case Miami's best offer they can make Portland is

Herro, Jovic, Lowry, 2024 1st, 2028 1st, 2030 1st, 2025 swap, 2027 swap, 2029 swap for Lillard + Nurkic

no, they can't just do what you're claiming

they can not arbitrarily change the terms of the trade without OKC's approval. They can try to get OKC to accept the 2025 unprotected, freeing up their 2027 first. But OKC can say no, and they very well might if they know Miami's offering to change the terms for adding Dame. The later that pick is unprotected, the better for OKC. The Thunder control those two picks right now and Miami is basically SOL

and because the 2025 is obligated to OKC, the Stepian rule would prevent Miami from trading their 2024 first. That pick is off the table. And they couldn't make it a swap unless Portland owned full rights to their own 1st round pick, which the Blazers don't own, thanks to Olshey's stupid trade for Nance

right now, the best pick package Miami could offer is their 2028 and 2030 first's and a swap in 2029.

people seem to be really contorting their logic and expectations to rationalize a Dame trade to Miami. If Dame is traded to Miami, Portland is going to get a crappy return

The pick Miami owes OKC is top 14 protected in 2025.

Would OKC prefer to risk Miami’s pick in 2025 being 15th-30th and losing Miami’s unprotected in 2026 pick when Butler & Dame are in their age 36 season?

It’s clearly better for OKC to simply have it unprotected in 2026.

OKC would agree to modify that in a heart beat…

[Netaman]

Philly has less picks to trade than Miami so don't see them as a realistic possibility. Maxey is a good asset but is a team that just drafted Scoot and already has Sharpe/Simons going to be desperate for him? he's going to get paid big next year (presumably bigger than Simons).

the ringer had a pretty good overview of the landscape of what net offers and heat offers could look like, plus some other contenders. here's what they said about philly:

Philadelphia 76ers: Highly Unlikely
At this point, it seems like James Harden will return to the Sixers, unless things get louder with the Rockets again or with a surprise team. But Lillard would be an upgrade over Harden. The issue? The Sixers have only two future firsts, four swaps, and Tyrese Maxey to put on the table.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/6/26/23773839/damian-lillard-trade-rumors-miami-heat-brooklyn-nets?utm_campaign=theringer&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

[red_power]

Tbh the only player who is likely to fit the long term Blazers plans is Claxton. Guys like Herro and Maxey, let alone older dudes, are just a bad fit with our young core and will be rerouted to a different team for additional assets in case they ever appear on a Blazers roster.

[Blazers98]

While picks are important in a Dame trade, I think a good youngish player that can grow with the team is important in a trade.

Maxey-love him but we already have Scoot/Sharpe/Ant. Might work IF we traded Ant but I worry that if they all work out, that could be an expensive backcourt.
Herro- Lesser than Maxey IMO and I would only take him if we had a deal to trade him for a young player in a position of need.
Claxton is a young, good, defensive, rebounding center. On a young Blazer team, he would even be able to develop to a competent offensive player. This is a solid piece and a must for any trade with the Nets.
OG is the perfect fit. 3D wing who could grow with the team and develop even more offensively.

Anyone else who should be added to the list?

[DusterBuster]

Another reason JKiddy is so off base thinking Brooklyn can play hardball with Dame is that the Nets are very clearly his second option, not first. Miami is. If Dame has any chance of going to Brooklyn, the Net have to come over the top of whatever the Heat's offer is and probably to a considerable amount in order to convince the Blazers FO to go to have a conversation with Dame to see if they can send him to his Plan B over his Plan A destination.