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The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2nds.

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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#961 » by fishnc » Thu May 31, 2012 5:48 pm

Fitz303 wrote:BPA @ 6.. Likely either Drummond, Beal, or Barnes

Marshall or Lillard @ 11

If both PGs are gone at 11 (likely only if NOH and Toronto take them at 8 and 10), then take a chance on Perry Jones, Austin Rivers, or Tyler Zeller


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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#962 » by JasonVincent » Thu May 31, 2012 6:07 pm

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Fitz303 wrote:BPA @ 6.. Likely either Drummond, Beal, or Barnes

Marshall or Lillard @ 11

If both PGs are gone at 11 (likely only if NOH and Toronto take them at 8 and 10), then take a chance on Perry Jones, Austin Rivers, or Tyler Zeller


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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#963 » by britblazerdude » Thu May 31, 2012 6:18 pm

Is it just me, or is Zeller soft as anything? From watching his stuff on youtube, he never leans into a shot or over powers his opponents. I would never want to take a chance on him. I like Jones a lot and I like Drummond a lot. That would be a killer front court if it worked out.
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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#964 » by Fitz303 » Thu May 31, 2012 6:31 pm

For those killing Drummond for his 29% from the FT line, it could be more of an anomoly than anything else. While he's clearly not a good FT shooter, the 2 years of stats that I could get from his high school years, he shot a combined 51% from the FT line in high school. Thats on over 200 FT attempts as well.

So while he's a bad FT shooter, he might not be quite as bad as his 1 season at UConn suggests. From the video that I saw of him shooting his FTs, he has pretty decent form
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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#965 » by PDXKnight » Thu May 31, 2012 6:44 pm

If Houston is planning on resigning Dragic and they really value someone at 11, I wonder how viable this trade would be:

Portland gets
Kyle Lowry + # 13

Chicago gets
Wesley Matthews

Houston gets
# 11 + our Second rounders + Chicago 1st + Kyle Korver + Nolan Smith

Chicago gets their 2, Portland gets their PG, and Houston gets a good amount of picks (note, I'd expect them to use the second rounders on overseas prospects.).
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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#966 » by kumquat » Thu May 31, 2012 7:43 pm

To be honset I'd rather Lowrey/Dragic over anyone in this draft. The guy we pick at 11 will be lucky to reach those levels.
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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#967 » by Neon1 » Thu May 31, 2012 7:53 pm

If i were Portland, I would go Drummond at #6 if there and Lillard/Marshall/Rivers at #11 in that order.
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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#968 » by Neon1 » Thu May 31, 2012 7:55 pm

Oden2 wrote:If Houston is planning on resigning Dragic and they really value someone at 11, I wonder how viable this trade would be:

Portland gets
Kyle Lowry + # 13

Chicago gets
Wesley Matthews

Houston gets
# 11 + our Second rounders + Chicago 1st + Kyle Korver + Nolan Smith

Chicago gets their 2, Portland gets their PG, and Houston gets a good amount of picks (note, I'd expect them to use the second rounders on overseas prospects.).



All 3 teams would approve that deal IMO.

Actually Houston might try to make you give up #6 instead of #11.
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Post#969 » by GreenRiddler » Thu May 31, 2012 7:58 pm

Jsun947 wrote:Drummond only converted on 32% of his shots from the post this year.

He only made 2 jump shots the entire season.

He shot 18% from the FT line his last 10 games.

Thabeet averaged 10/8 his sophomore year in college. Similar to Drummond's freshman year.

How is their offensive skills much different?

Com-on man if you really think we will pass on Drummond at 6 your living LA LA land, I remember people said the same thing about Hibbertt when he came out of Georgetown..Centers like that need time to develop they aren't guards ok.
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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#970 » by GreenRiddler » Thu May 31, 2012 8:02 pm

Neon1 wrote:
Oden2 wrote:If Houston is planning on resigning Dragic and they really value someone at 11, I wonder how viable this trade would be:

Portland gets
Kyle Lowry + # 13

Chicago gets
Wesley Matthews

Houston gets
# 11 + our Second rounders + Chicago 1st + Kyle Korver + Nolan Smith

Chicago gets their 2, Portland gets their PG, and Houston gets a good amount of picks (note, I'd expect them to use the second rounders on overseas prospects.).



All 3 teams would approve that deal IMO.

Actually Houston might try to make you give up #6 instead of #11.

they can try but it won't happen
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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#971 » by a_sensei » Thu May 31, 2012 8:18 pm

GreenRiddler wrote:
Jsun947 wrote:Drummond only converted on 32% of his shots from the post this year.

He only made 2 jump shots the entire season.

He shot 18% from the FT line his last 10 games.

Thabeet averaged 10/8 his sophomore year in college. Similar to Drummond's freshman year.

How is their offensive skills much different?

Com-on man if you really think we will pass on Drummond at 6 your living LA LA land, I remember people said the same thing about Hibbertt when he came out of Georgetown..Centers like that need time to develop they aren't guards ok.


The same Roy Hibbert that shot 60% from the field and 68% from the FT line in college? He did not come into college with nearly the hype that Drummond did, but had a much better offensive game. Drummond scares me. I feel like there is more than a 50/50 chance that he'll be a total bust, but maybe a 10% chance that he'll be one of the two best players in this draft as well.
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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#972 » by GreenRiddler » Thu May 31, 2012 8:22 pm

a_sensei wrote:
GreenRiddler wrote:
Jsun947 wrote:Drummond only converted on 32% of his shots from the post this year.

He only made 2 jump shots the entire season.

He shot 18% from the FT line his last 10 games.

Thabeet averaged 10/8 his sophomore year in college. Similar to Drummond's freshman year.

How is their offensive skills much different?

Com-on man if you really think we will pass on Drummond at 6 your living LA LA land, I remember people said the same thing about Hibbertt when he came out of Georgetown..Centers like that need time to develop they aren't guards ok.


The same Roy Hibbert that shot 60% from the field and 68% from the FT line in college? He did not come into college with nearly the hype that Drummond did, but had a much better offensive game. Drummond scares me. I feel like there is more than a 50/50 chance that he'll be a total bust, but maybe a 10% chance that he'll be one of the two best players in this draft as well.

Orlando took a flyer on Howard at 1, I would gladly take who ever is left from the MKG, T-Rob, Beal,Barnes, Drummond line... we are not taking any risk with Drummond at 6 NONE!
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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#973 » by Walton'sBeard! » Thu May 31, 2012 8:28 pm

Hibbert shot 47% as a freshman. Also if you look at his production per minute he was well below Drummond as a freshman.

Per 36:
Hibbert 11.6 points and 8.0 rebounds
Drummond 12.6 points and 9.6 rebounds
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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#974 » by PDXKnight » Thu May 31, 2012 8:31 pm

Neon1 wrote:
Oden2 wrote:If Houston is planning on resigning Dragic and they really value someone at 11, I wonder how viable this trade would be:

Portland gets
Kyle Lowry + # 13

Chicago gets
Wesley Matthews

Houston gets
# 11 + our Second rounders + Chicago 1st + Kyle Korver + Nolan Smith

Chicago gets their 2, Portland gets their PG, and Houston gets a good amount of picks (note, I'd expect them to use the second rounders on overseas prospects.).



All 3 teams would approve that deal IMO.

Actually Houston might try to make you give up #6 instead of #11.


That'd be a deal breaker for me. If we're trading number 6 I'd want someone better than Lowry.
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Post#975 » by LOOSH » Thu May 31, 2012 8:35 pm

I want Bradley Beal, whatever it takes, but this also interests me ...

Drummond at 6, Marshall at 11 -- Sign Steve Nash

Honestly, can you think of a better situation for Dummond's development? He comes in and is just asked to Rebound and block shots while Nash schools him on pick and roll and gets him easy buckets all day. We get Nash I'm all in on Andre Drummond. Meanwhile, Marshall takes a 2 year PG apprenticeship under Nash, still plays a lot, takes over in a couple years. That scenario would get me excited.
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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#976 » by GreenRiddler » Thu May 31, 2012 8:37 pm

Walton'sBeard! wrote:Hibbert shot 47% as a freshman. Also if you look at his production per minute he was well below Drummond as a freshman.

Per 36:
Hibbert 11.6 points and 8.0 rebounds
Drummond 12.6 points and 9.6 rebounds

Drummond is also much more athletic then Hibbert, I think Drummond can be a longer version of Dwight who doesn't need to be relied upon as much on offense with Aldridge in the post. He just has to focus on grabbing rebs and blocking shots his rookie year with us.
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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#977 » by GreenRiddler » Thu May 31, 2012 8:38 pm

I wouldn't mind taking Barnes at 6 and Sullinger at 11 though..if Beal and Drummond are off the board.
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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#978 » by GreenRiddler » Thu May 31, 2012 9:05 pm

Pretty good video write up on Drummond http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1xHtOMCJPg

note his pick and roll defense and his ability to run the floor better than anyone on our roster.
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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#979 » by blazers73 » Thu May 31, 2012 9:22 pm

The great thing about the #6 position is we can truly draft the BPA and not factor in position.
Aldridge is the only for sure player we are going to keep and I doubt Robinson is there at #6.
Batum if we keep him, can play either the 2 or the 3 so we can draft those positions with no problem.
And of course we have a huge need for the 1 and the 5.
As stated maybe someone impresses the heck out of us like Westbrook did OKC and we take him because we feel he is the BPA at #6.

I doubt Marshal and Lillard are both off the board at #11.

The only 2 players I would trade up for are Davis- not happening and MKG doubtful. Robinson might be there talent wise but we have Aldridge.
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Re: The 2012 NBA Draft: 6th & 11th picks, and some random 2n 

Post#980 » by GreenRiddler » Thu May 31, 2012 9:46 pm

what about Waiters, I didn't understand the hype about him from the last two weeks, but watching some film he looks pretty good would 11 be a reach?

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