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Re: Future of the Trailblazers 

Post#141 » by Showdown » Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:59 am

Aldridge and Galinari or Love and Gordon as packages are only good options, getting both Love and Galinari or trading only Bazemore's contract for something are the worst options available
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Re: Future of the Trailblazers 

Post#142 » by wco81 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:35 pm

Are there any indications that the Blazers would be sold?

Wolves are in the process of being sold but there's a certain amount of uncertainty about the league's finances. Teams are waiting to see what the salary cap looks like in the next few years, when they can have games with fans in attendance, etc.

They may push back the start of next season if they think they can have fans at some point. It doesn't seem like they're interested in the bubble again, since it would be impossible to make a bubble for the whole league. Plus it seems playing games as early as 10 AM PST is hurting the ratings.

So prospective buyers are probably waiting for things to shake out, except investor groups who'd want to move a team to their city, such as Seattle.

Blazers had a tough season. While they rallied in the bubble to make the playoffs and even excited the NBA with the Game 1 win vs. the Lakers, the team seemed to have taken a step back in areas such as defense, especially wing defenders.

IIRC, team has given out CJ's extension after Paul Allen's passing? So Jodie Allen may be willing to make some big financial commitments but the team right now, depending on what happens to the cap, would only be able to add MLE type of signings?

Or if there are big trades available, would the team take on contracts with big cap numbers and a lot of years remaining?

If the team is put up for sale, there would have to be some kind of plan for the arena, you would think.
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Re: Future of the Trailblazers 

Post#143 » by DaVoiceMaster » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:52 pm

I don't think the team is going anywhere. I've not heard anything about Jody Allen or Vulcan, Inc selling the Blazers. I don't know that they would do that to Paul Allen's legacy. Jody Allen attended a number of games this season and seemed to be enjoying herself. There is a lot of uncertanty because of Covid, but I don't believe there is any uncertainty as to who will own this team next season.
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Re: Future of the Trailblazers 

Post#144 » by HoopsFanAZ » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:13 pm

DaVoiceMaster:
I've not heard anything about Jody Allen or Vulcan, Inc selling the Blazers. I don't know that they would do that to Paul Allen's legacy.


... and this is why betting on a "Go For It" mandate for Olshey and management is more likely than not as a continuation of what Paul Allen supposedly said. While the 1st round gentleman's sweep by the Lakers and the season itself MAY be excused due to NUMEROUS injuries for the Blazers -- still, it's a 1st round exit and a < .500 season. Players under contract not named Lillard and Nurkic can expect to be part of trade chatter. [and maybe not GTJ as he's this year's CJ McCollum in his end of the 2nd year blow-up]
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Re: Future of the Trailblazers 

Post#145 » by wco81 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 4:55 pm

The question for ownership is whether they're content with a treadmill team, competes for playoffs every year, fills up an older arena and have appealing star players the fans love, even if the team can't quite get over the hump.

Obviously the fans, at least those on RealGM, want more but how badly does the ownership?

Paul Allen was a basketball fan and sports fan in general. But his sister is indifferent at best to how the team does?

Did Lillard and CJ get their big extensions after she got the team?
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Re: Future of the Trailblazers 

Post#146 » by Wizenheimer » Fri Sep 4, 2020 6:34 pm

wco81 wrote:Did Lillard and CJ get their big extensions after she got the team?


yes....Dame deserved his deal (but it's a cap-clogger)....CJ didn't deserve his deal

as for the future of the Blazers:

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Re: Future of the Trailblazers 

Post#147 » by d-train » Sat Sep 5, 2020 11:22 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:
wco81 wrote:Did Lillard and CJ get their big extensions after she got the team?


yes....Dame deserved his deal (but it's a cap-clogger)....CJ didn't deserve his deal

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Everything comes down to a series of choices, right. This treadmill pic is supposed to be an argument against a team taking steps to incrementally improve. The 'get off the treadmill argument' says we are too good to get better, but not good enough to win it all. The question too many people don't bother to ask is, when are you one of the 29 teams (that aren't champions) and are on the so called treadmill going nowhere? My answer is anytime your odds of incrementally improving your way to a championship are WORSE than starting from scratch. This leads to the third dumb trap people fall into. The nonsense belief that starting from scratch gives you a great chance to build a contending team, forget about a championship team. The Blazers are already a likely contending team, so the treadmill standard must be championship or nothing. No doubt, the odds of Blazers winning a championship are not that great. The only way to get worse odds is to start from scratch. If we had to start from scratch, the odds are it would take at least 4-5 years to get back to where we are now. Then what do you do, give up again. NBA basketball is a business in addition to being a competition. Breaking down a good team and starting from scratch is not only dumb from a perspective of winning the competition, it is also even dumber business.
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