Game 40: Portland vs Houston 7:00pm SNW

[zzaj]

Meyers Leonard is bad.

you watch him occasionally, imagine how is to watch him regularly lol

Why was Collins not playing?

He did have some time at PF tonight. My guess would be that Stotts didn't like his matchup...

[Duffman100]

you watch him occasionally, imagine how is to watch him regularly lol

Why was Collins not playing?

He did have some time at PF tonight. My guess would be that Stotts didn't like his matchup...

I suppose Capela with the size.

but i'd take the better player.

Either way, good win! Couldn't believe that Tucker moving screen / foul.

[DusterBuster]

38pts on 35 shots, I guess Harden really is this eras Kobe.

[Shem]

Meyers Leonard is bad.

you watch him occasionally, imagine how is to watch him regularly lol

Why was Collins not playing?

Because Terry Stotts and Neil Olshey are in love with Meyers. I've never seen a player do more f'-ups than him and still get chances EVER in my 35 years of watching NBA basketball.

[Shem]

you watch him occasionally, imagine how is to watch him regularly lol

Why was Collins not playing?

He did have some time at PF tonight. My guess would be that Stotts didn't like his matchup...

There was a time where Stotts went small and had to choose between Meyers and Collins. He chose Meyers. And Meyers are f'ing up all over the place. It was a bit of a head scratching decision on Stotts when the decision was made and continues to be a head scratcher when seeing the results of the decision.

[Shem]

I would also like to note and I pointed this out in yesterday's game day thread. When was playing his best basketball when playing without Meyers in the game with him. Once Stotts started using Meyers to play along side of Collins, Collins hasn't been the same. You would think Stotts, the coaching staff and the rest of the Blazer management would notice that. Yep, you would think...

[Brandon-Clyde]

Victory GLB pic

Spoiler:

[LillardTime]

I would also like to note and I pointed this out in yesterday's game day thread. When was playing his best basketball when playing without Meyers in the game with him. Once Stotts started using Meyers to play along side of Collins, Collins hasn't been the same. You would think Stotts, the coaching staff and the rest of the Blazer management would notice that. Yep, you would think...

I actually think the franchise is hoping to trade Leonard and the only way to be able to trade him is for him to get on the court and try to show something. In fairness he hasn’t been completely hopeless this year. There are worse players out there but the 11 mil a year hurts

[Epicurus]

I would also like to note and I pointed this out in yesterday's game day thread. When was playing his best basketball when playing without Meyers in the game with him. Once Stotts started using Meyers to play along side of Collins, Collins hasn't been the same. You would think Stotts, the coaching staff and the rest of the Blazer management would notice that. Yep, you would think...

Not sure where your evidence is for this claim, but looking at https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/colliza01/lineups/2019 , I can't find it.

[Norm2953]

I'm probably more supportive of Meyers than most but do think Lillardtime has it right that the
team is trying to move Meyers. He's not as bad as previous years and might be an acceptable
big at half the cost.

With time running down on his contract, there are some truly bad players who other teams find
a way to trade. He's never been seriously hurt and is big enough to play.

[monopoman]

I think Meyers play could fool a number of teams, I mean **** even with a subpar Crabbe playing below his contract we still convinced the Kings to take him. Yeah they gave us a player back that we had on the books for a few years but I mean we still got rid of him without giving up a major pick.

**** some teams might think with more of a chance on the court he could develop even more.

[DaVoiceMaster]

You gotta love that the ref's reviewed that foul on Turner pushing Tucker to see if Harden was behind the 3 point line. If Turner pushes Tucker, why is Harden shooting free throws, let alone 3 free throws vs. 2 free throws. What incompetence!!! They even reviewed the play and didn't get it right. Mind boggling!!!

[Wizenheimer]

You gotta love that the ref's reviewed that foul on Turner pushing Tucker to see if Harden was behind the 3 point line. If Turner pushes Tucker, why is Harden shooting free throws, let alone 3 free throws vs. 2 free throws. What incompetence!!! They even reviewed the play and didn't get it right. Mind boggling!!!

that was a rule change the NBA implemented a couple of years ago, IIRC...maybe it was last summer. The same thing could have happened at the basket. For instance, if Harden was driving for a lay-in and Nurkic shoved Capela into Harden disrupting the shot, it would have been called a shooting foul. We've acttually seen a variation of it for years...a player shoots from distance at the same time a foul occurs on rebound jockeying; the basket will count and the rebounder will get a foul shot, even if the other team isn't in the penalty. I guess the thinking is not to let the defense nullify successful offense by fouling during a shot attempt

in the case last night it looked like Tucker was pushed before Harden 'gathered' but it was close

[bigdavid]

Great game. Very exciting... really enjoyed. I think everyone played great. Defense works. I would like to see Turner start, but not allowed to shoot 3's

[monopoman]

You gotta love that the ref's reviewed that foul on Turner pushing Tucker to see if Harden was behind the 3 point line. If Turner pushes Tucker, why is Harden shooting free throws, let alone 3 free throws vs. 2 free throws. What incompetence!!! They even reviewed the play and didn't get it right. Mind boggling!!!

that was a rule change the NBA implemented a couple of years ago, IIRC...maybe it was last summer. The same thing could have happened at the basket. For instance, if Harden was driving for a lay-in and Nurkic shoved Capela into Harden disrupting the shot, it would have been called a shooting foul. We've acttually seen a variation of it for years...a player shoots from distance at the same time a foul occurs on rebound jockeying; the basket will count and the rebounder will get a foul shot, even if the other team isn't in the penalty. I guess the thinking is not to let the defense nullify successful offense by fouling during a shot attempt

in the case last night it looked like Tucker was pushed before Harden 'gathered' but it was close

My problem is you have no clue if the player are you shoving will go into the other man or not, or how much he will amplify the contact. I mean he could easily just keep flying back and if Harden is anywhere within reason its a foul for Harden. Obviously he can't fly 30 feet back into Harden but 10-15 feet might fool the Refs even if that is clearly exaggerating the contact.

Also knowing how much time and effort Harden spends on fooling the refs this might be something Tucker and Harden have practiced.

Another thing I hate about this call is it seems that Turner is obligated to face the wrath of anything that happens to Harden vicariously through Tucker hitting him. So if Turner pushes Tucker somewhat and then Tucker flies back like he was shoved by a heavy weight body builder at maximum strength, and hits harden but smacks him in the face hard is that a Flagrant 1?

[Moonbeam]

That was a nice bounce-back win against a tough opponent. Portland's played the toughest schedule in the league thus far by SRS and is still in the playoff picture. Hopefully they can stay relatively healthy and take advantage once the schedule eases to move up the standings.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Great game. Very exciting... really enjoyed. I think everyone played great. Defense works. I would like to see Turner start, but not allowed to shoot 3's

Watch more Blazer games, you may differently!

[DaVoiceMaster]

You gotta love that the ref's reviewed that foul on Turner pushing Tucker to see if Harden was behind the 3 point line. If Turner pushes Tucker, why is Harden shooting free throws, let alone 3 free throws vs. 2 free throws. What incompetence!!! They even reviewed the play and didn't get it right. Mind boggling!!!

that was a rule change the NBA implemented a couple of years ago, IIRC...maybe it was last summer. The same thing could have happened at the basket. For instance, if Harden was driving for a lay-in and Nurkic shoved Capela into Harden disrupting the shot, it would have been called a shooting foul. We've acttually seen a variation of it for years...a player shoots from distance at the same time a foul occurs on rebound jockeying; the basket will count and the rebounder will get a foul shot, even if the other team isn't in the penalty. I guess the thinking is not to let the defense nullify successful offense by fouling during a shot attempt

in the case last night it looked like Tucker was pushed before Harden 'gathered' but it was close

My problem is you have no clue if the player are you shoving will go into the other man or not, or how much he will amplify the contact. I mean he could easily just keep flying back and if Harden is anywhere within reason its a foul for Harden. Obviously he can't fly 30 feet back into Harden but 10-15 feet might fool the Refs even if that is clearly exaggerating the contact.

Also knowing how much time and effort Harden spends on fooling the refs this might be something Tucker and Harden have practiced.

Another thing I hate about this call is it seems that Turner is obligated to face the wrath of anything that happens to Harden vicariously through Tucker hitting him. So if Turner pushes Tucker somewhat and then Tucker flies back like he was shoved by a heavy weight body builder at maximum strength, and hits harden but smacks him in the face hard is that a Flagrant 1?

Looked a whole lot more like a flop than a push!