Game 4 WCF Portland vs GS 6:oo Monday ESPN

Post #181 » by **The Sebastian Express** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:50 am

Oden2 wrote:He makes one and we give it to him 10 more times. It feels like the last few game winning attempts in the playoffs we’ve lost 2-3 games that way...

Who else would you have liked to take the shot?

Oneluckbox · Post #182 » by **Oneluckbox** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:50 am

All good. Great season. 53 wins, WCF berth (after they lose their 2nd best player) and competed with the best team in the world. The sweep is a bit disappointing but there's things to build on.

JasonStern · Post #183 » by **JasonStern** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:50 am

General board is going to be fun for the next few months.

Epicurus · Post #184 » by **Epicurus** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:50 am

Oden2 wrote:Lillard fade away how predictable. I hate hate hate that call.

The first option clearly was McCollum. The window was not big enough in Turner's judgment. Not a bad second option. It would have been interesting if Lillard did a shot fake since Thompson would have plowed into him. But the refs surely wouldn't have noticed, would they?

PDXKnight · Post #185 » by **PDXKnight** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:51 am

The Sebastian Express wrote:
Oden2 wrote:He makes one and we give it to him 10 more times. It feels like the last few game winning attempts in the playoffs we’ve lost 2-3 games that way...

Who else would you have liked to take the shot?

This game? Leonard would be better than Lillard in a triple team. Lillard is the franchise player but it’s too predictable to go to him every time

Blazinaway · Post #186 » by **Blazinaway** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:52 am

The Sebastian Express wrote:
Oden2 wrote:He makes one and we give it to him 10 more times. It feels like the last few game winning attempts in the playoffs we’ve lost 2-3 games that way...

Who else would you have liked to take the shot?

Its not who takes it but trying to get a decent percantage shot, that shot was incredibly low percentage, Meyers/CJ/Hood all can shoot

Matt800 · Post #187 » by **Matt800** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:52 am

hopefully a lot of these guys are back next year, would be fun to see them have another shot at it + Nurkic.

Revived · Post #188 » by **Revived** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:52 am

Again, why is Lillard is taking these? He hit the one against OKC, great but these are the Warriors! Their literally game planning for him to take it.

Lillard on that second last play had Seth wide open too instead of trying to force up the layup.

Overall with the Nurkic injury, this season was great for Portland but they really didn’t anywhere close to their best against Golden State and while the Warriors get some of the credit for it, a lot of it is on Portland.

Post #189 » by **The Sebastian Express** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:53 am

Oden2 wrote:
The Sebastian Express wrote:
Oden2 wrote:He makes one and we give it to him 10 more times. It feels like the last few game winning attempts in the playoffs we’ve lost 2-3 games that way...

Who else would you have liked to take the shot?

This game? Leonard would be better than Lillard in a triple team. Lillard is the franchise player but it’s too predictable to go to him every time

Leonard who made I believe.. zero outside shots the entire second half?

I might've missed one.

Leonard who has a.. incredibly slow shot motion and was being guarded a lot more fiercely?

Leonard had a great game. But they changed how they guarded him in the second, they put attention on him, and if you're asking a guy who is notorious for how long he takes to get a shot off to take a high pressure shot with limited time left, I don't think that's going to go remotely well.

PDXKnight · Post #190 » by **PDXKnight** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:53 am

Great season but It’s just such a bad end to get here and go out like this. After that Oregonian article about the trash brothers I really wanted a statement today. Oh well, great run all things considered

Blazinaway · Post #191 » by **Blazinaway** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:53 am

Revived wrote:Again, why is Lillard is taking these? He hit the one against OKC, great but these are the Warriors! Their literally game planning for him to take it.

Lillard on that second last play had Seth wide open too instead of trying to force up the layup.

Overall with the Nurkic injury, this season was great for Portland but they really didn’t anywhere close to their best against Golden State and while the Warriors get some of the credit for it, a lot of it is on Portland.

agree, good summary

Epicurus · Post #192 » by **Epicurus** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:53 am

Oden2 wrote:He makes one and we give it to him 10 more times. It feels like the last few game winning attempts in the playoffs we’ve lost 2-3 games that way...

Well, that assumes baskets being made by the non-Lillard alternatives.

PDXKnight · Post #193 » by **PDXKnight** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:55 am

The Sebastian Express wrote:
Oden2 wrote:
The Sebastian Express wrote:
Who else would you have liked to take the shot?

This game? Leonard would be better than Lillard in a triple team. Lillard is the franchise player but it’s too predictable to go to him every time

Leonard who made I believe.. zero outside shots the entire second half?

I might've missed one.

Leonard who has a.. incredibly slow shot motion and was being guarded a lot more fiercely?

Leonard had a great game. But they changed how they guarded him in the second, they put attention on him, and if you're asking a guy who is notorious for how long he takes to get a shot off to take a high pressure shot with limited time left, I don't think that's going to go remotely well.

Not necessarily Meyers, I just think it should’ve been set up for whoever didn’t have a bunch of guys focused on him. Cj wasn’t open but Hood, aminu, Meyers, Seth all could have a better shot than that improbable shot. I don’t care if it won the okc series it’s not a good odds shot and if you can find a more open man generally that’s the more strategic route

Post #194 » by **DaVoiceMaster** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:55 am

Revived wrote:Again, why is Lillard is taking these? He hit the one against OKC, great but these are the Warriors! Their literally game planning for him to take it.

Lillard on that second last play had Seth wide open too instead of trying to force up the layup.

Overall with the Nurkic injury, this season was great for Portland but they really didn’t anywhere close to their best against Golden State and while the Warriors get some of the credit for it, a lot of it is on Portland.

Leonard, as well.

Revived · Post #195 » by **Revived** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:56 am

Blazinaway wrote:
The Sebastian Express wrote:
Oden2 wrote:He makes one and we give it to him 10 more times. It feels like the last few game winning attempts in the playoffs we’ve lost 2-3 games that way...

Who else would you have liked to take the shot?

Its not who takes it but trying to get a decent percantage shot, that shot was incredibly low percentage, Meyers/CJ/Hood all can shoot

Yeah I can understand forcefeeding Lillard if he’s scorching hot or something but he wasn’t. His jumper’s been off all series long and he’s injured on top of that.

Lillard should’ve been the decoy and someone else either McCollum, Seth, Hood or Leonard takes that last one imo.

PDXKnight · Post #196 » by **PDXKnight** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:56 am

Epicurus wrote:
Oden2 wrote:He makes one and we give it to him 10 more times. It feels like the last few game winning attempts in the playoffs we’ve lost 2-3 games that way...
Well, that assumes baskets being made by the non-Lillard alternatives.

I trust Lillard, I know he can play. But he’s hurt and his shots haven’t been falling as well. Kudos to him for playing but considering the situation I strongly consider drawing it up for someone else

Roy The Natural · Post #197 » by **Roy The Natural** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:56 am

Stotts should go... it's time. He's had a long time here. Making the WCF was nice... but he's just not the guy. The team hasn't played smart basketball all series long... the offense was plain putrid at the end of the game there, and he's got to be accountable for letting the offense devolve to that, while also playing Turner for like 12 minutes of straight garbage from Turner.

I don't think Portland should "blow it up".... but I really think it's time to move on from CJ and Stotts. The team needs a revamp. The guards just don't work great together. Neither one of them works very well off ball, and both of them can get tunnel vision that completely kills any idea of team ball, but CJs tunnel vision is literally at legendary levels.

I'm not trying to knee jerk here... I understand the Nurkic injury... I understand the relative success of getting to the WCF.... but I'm just getting tired and bored of our guards just freezing the rest of the team out on offense and consistently taking turns chucking outrageously difficult shots. Lillard probably had a worse playoffs than CJ overall considering expectations.... but CJ just doesn't feel like a winning player. The guy takes A LOT of BAD shots at the end of games... and spends a lot of time not passing to open teammates.

I think at this point, my main issue with Stotts is that he just allows players to get away with far too much. I'm tired of endless leashes for guys like Aminu... while guys like Layman just ride the pine despite probably being a better long-term solution. I don't know, we could do worse than CJ and Stotts... but we could probably do better. And I'm ready to give something different a shot, like Toronto.

I think both should go... but if we want to move one or the other, I'd be able to put up with that for a year to see what happens.

Epicurus · Post #198 » by **Epicurus** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:58 am

I guess I didn't see McCollum breaking to the basket on the last shot. He was the FIRST option. Turner went to the second option, Lillard in the corner. I am at a loss to understand what was wrong with that.

Roy The Natural · Post #199 » by **Roy The Natural** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:58 am

Revived wrote:
Blazinaway wrote:
The Sebastian Express wrote:
Who else would you have liked to take the shot?

Its not who takes it but trying to get a decent percantage shot, that shot was incredibly low percentage, Meyers/CJ/Hood all can shoot

Yeah I can understand forcefeeding Lillard if he’s scorching hot or something but he wasn’t. His jumper’s been off all series long and he’s injured on top of that.

Lillard should’ve been the decoy and someone else either McCollum, Seth, Hood or Leonard takes that last one imo.

McCollum was worse than Lillard to end this game... he was taking some of the worst shots I've ever seen a player take.... and they weren't even close to going in... and he had open teammates nearby.... Blazers should have just tried some team ball in overtime and they probably win. Same story though.... your turn, my turn is Blazers playoff basketball.

PDXKnight · Post #200 » by **PDXKnight** » Tue May 21, 2019 3:58 am

Roy The Natural wrote:Stotts should go... it's time. He's had a long time here. Making the WCF was nice... but he's just not the guy. The team hasn't played smart basketball all series long... the offense was plain putrid at the end of the game there, and he's got to be accountable for letting the offense devolve to that, while also playing Turner for like 12 minutes of straight garbage from Turner.

I don't think Portland should "blow it up".... but I really think it's time to move on from CJ and Stotts. The team needs a revamp. The guards just don't work great together. Neither one of them works very well off ball, and both of them can get tunnel vision that completely kills any idea of team ball, but CJs tunnel vision is literally at legendary levels.

I'm not trying to knee jerk here... I understand the Nurkic injury... I understand the relative success of getting to the WCF.... but I'm just getting tired and bored of our guards just freezing the rest of the team out on offense and consistently taking turns chucking outrageously difficult shots. Lillard probably had a worse playoffs than CJ overall considering expectations.... but CJ just doesn't feel like a winning player. The guy takes A LOT of BAD shots at the end of games... and spends a lot of time not passing to open teammates.

I think at this point, my main issue with Stotts is that he just allows players to get away with far too much. I'm tired of endless leashes for guys like Aminu... while guys like Layman just ride the pine despite probably being a better long-term solution. I don't know, we could do worse than CJ and Stotts... but we could probably do better. And I'm ready to give something different a shot, like Toronto.

Lol Stotts shouldn’t go, but he did lose a bit of my optimism. I still keep him personally especially since we were DEPLETED.

When are we gonna make the right move and resign him?