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Did Olshey blow landing Markkanen?

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Re: Did Olshey blow landing Markkanen? 

Post#21 » by Blazers20 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:49 pm

Huh, he did?
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Re: Did Olshey blow landing Markkanen? 

Post#22 » by Blazers20 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:50 pm

5pts and 4reb in a 30 point loss…..
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Re: Did Olshey blow landing Markkanen? 

Post#23 » by kumquat » Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:35 am

I'm still confident Larry is the better player and fit out of the two. Where is Derrick Jones Jr? Is he injured?
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Re: Did Olshey blow landing Markkanen? 

Post#24 » by monopoman » Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:38 am

Nance is looking quite effective out there, I like what he brings to the team.
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Re: Did Olshey blow landing Markkanen? 

Post#25 » by LillardTime » Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:53 am

People are going to be disappointed if they judge Larry by his box score compared to Lauri.

What is already evident is Nance’s versatility defensively and his willingness to play within the system and flow of the game. His numbers on their own aren’t game changing but what he provides for the team could be game changing when you consider he can cover for the defensive deficiencies of our guards amd really help solidify the defence of the second unit which was comical last year.

Our second unit as a whole already looks like the best second unit Dame has ever had and if we can keep Dame to 32 mins during the season and the odd rest, that could be huge come playoffs because Dame has always seemed gassed by the end of the season.
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Re: Did Olshey blow landing Markkanen? 

Post#26 » by DusterBuster » Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:08 pm

monopoman wrote:Nance is looking quite effective out there, I like what he brings to the team.


I wish he would play more than Roco.
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Re: Did Olshey blow landing Markkanen? 

Post#27 » by monopoman » Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:51 pm

LillardTime wrote:People are going to be disappointed if they judge Larry by his box score compared to Lauri.

What is already evident is Nance’s versatility defensively and his willingness to play within the system and flow of the game. His numbers on their own aren’t game changing but what he provides for the team could be game changing when you consider he can cover for the defensive deficiencies of our guards amd really help solidify the defence of the second unit which was comical last year.

Our second unit as a whole already looks like the best second unit Dame has ever had and if we can keep Dame to 32 mins during the season and the odd rest, that could be huge come playoffs because Dame has always seemed gassed by the end of the season.


He also is not given the ball much on offense to really make things happen on that end, I think he could do more if this team wanted it from him.
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Re: Did Olshey blow landing Markkanen? 

Post#28 » by IAMZOOTED2 » Wed Nov 3, 2021 6:58 am

Gamble on Markkanen's potential, versus Nance as known quantity. Early on, but I think management did ok here. If Nance gets that spot up jumper working in any capacity things could really turn around for that bench mob. Simmons looking confident af, too.
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Re: Did Olshey blow landing Markkanen? 

Post#29 » by Wizenheimer » Wed Nov 3, 2021 4:49 pm

DusterBuster wrote:
monopoman wrote:Nance is looking quite effective out there, I like what he brings to the team.


I wish he would play more than Roco.


I don't know about playing more...maybe

but for sure RoCo should not be getting 9.3 more minutes a game. Nance may have the 2nd best court vision as a facilitator on the team behind Dame. He's also rebounding as well as Zeller

I'd also wonder about if some of Dame's struggles are due to screen setting by teammates. Good screens require mass. With a 6'7 PF and a 6'3 SF, running Dame off the ball, as Billups wants/wanted, would depend on those smaller off-ball screen setters. Nance is certainly bigger than either RoCo or Powell

one more thing, in the last 2 games against Charlotte and Philly:

Miles Bridges 6-6
LaMelo Ball 6-6
Gordon Hayward 6-7
Kelly Oubre Jr. 6-7
Cody Martin 6-5
P.J. Washington 6-7

Furkan Korkmaz 6-7
Georges Niang 6-7
Danny Green 6-6
Matisse Thybulle 6-5
(Tobias Harris) 6-8

I've seen some of the disadvantages of Portland's collection of 6'3 wings in those 2 games. More Nance would help equalize that, at least a little
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Post#30 » by BNM » Wed Nov 3, 2021 5:43 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
monopoman wrote:Nance is looking quite effective out there, I like what he brings to the team.


I wish he would play more than Roco.


I don't know about playing more...maybe

but for sure RoCo should not be getting 9.3 more minutes a game. Nance may have the 2nd best court vision as a facilitator on the team behind Dame. He's also rebounding as well as Zeller

I'd also wonder about if some of Dame's struggles are due to screen setting by teammates. Good screens require mass. With a 6'7 PF and a 6'3 SF, running Dame off the ball, as Billups wants/wanted, would depend on those smaller off-ball screen setters. Nance is certainly bigger than either RoCo or Powell

one more thing, in the last 2 games against Charlotte and Philly:

Miles Bridges 6-6
LaMelo Ball 6-6
Gordon Hayward 6-7
Kelly Oubre Jr. 6-7
Cody Martin 6-5
P.J. Washington 6-7

Furkan Korkmaz 6-7
Georges Niang 6-7
Danny Green 6-6
Matisse Thybulle 6-5
(Tobias Harris) 6-8

I've seen some of the disadvantages of Portland's collection of 6'3 wings in those 2 games. More Nance would help equalize that, at least a little


This is why I'd still like to see a CJ for Simmons trade. POR throws in RoCo and PHI throws in Reed and Thybulle to match salaries. Throw in a lottery protected FRP and one pick swap to make Morey happy and get it done. This gives POR Simmons, Nance and Little to guard big wings. Move Norm to starting SG, where he belongs, and keep Simons as 6th man. If it keeps Ben happy. announce him as the starting PG, but assign him to guard the other teams best wing player.

"Official" starting line up:

PG Simmons (wink, wink)
SG Lillard
SF Powell
PF Nance (or Little)
C Nurk

Killer small ball line up for 12 - 16 minutes a game:

Dame
Ant
Powell
Simons
Nance

That puts four shooters around Simmons. Nance and Simmons are both good, switchable defenders, and also great passers with excellent court vision.

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