I'm sure everyone here remembers Dame's 3-pointer from deep, right in PG13's face. It was a huge moment in Blazers' history and made Dame, in the eyes of most fans, the clutch performer that he's been titled.
But does anyone really remember the possession before that, in that very game? I do. We were down three, with time winding down and that bum Harkless buried, IMO, the real clutch shot in that game: A corner three to tie that game. We then were able to get a stop, and with the score tied, thanks to Harkless, Dame made "The Shot".
Dame's with the score tied, IMO was far less clutch than Harkless'. Had Dame missed, we only would have gone to overtime, and it would not have necessarily resulted in a loss. But Dame had no problem taking all of the credit. Great individual player... horrible teammate.
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Form the 2019-20 NBA GM Survey:

This was a survey of all 30 NBA GM's taken during the off season immediately following "The Shot". Seems like the people who evaluate players for a living thought Dame was a pretty good teammate and not just someone stealing the limelight from Mo Harkless.

This was a survey of all 30 NBA GM's taken during the off season immediately following "The Shot". Seems like the people who evaluate players for a living thought Dame was a pretty good teammate and not just someone stealing the limelight from Mo Harkless.
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One things for sure, Ben Simmons would have made that shot blindfolded and Mark Williams would have dunked from the 3PT line in that game.
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GEE wrote:I'm sure everyone here remembers Dame's 3-pointer from deep, right in PG13's face. It was a huge moment in Blazers' history and made Dame, in the eyes of most fans, the clutch performer that he's been titled.
But does anyone really remember the possession before that, in that very game? I do. We were down three, with time winding down and that bum Harkless buried, IMO, the real clutch shot in that game: A corner three to tie that game. We then were able to get a stop, and with the score tied, thanks to Harkless, Dame made "The Shot".
Dame's with the score tied, IMO was far less clutch than Harkless'. Had Dame missed, we only would have gone to overtime, and it would not have necessarily resulted in a loss. But Dame had no problem taking all of the credit. Great individual player... horrible teammate.
He was given that credit, **** in the post game interview Dame downplayed it a bit. The fans and media were the ones that put all the heat on the shot. This is some real sour grapes buddy, it almost sounds like something Paul George would say.
It was also a ridiculously deep shot, we all remember PG 13 right after the game calling it a bad shot. Harkless hit a big shot to tie it, but let's say Harkless misses that shot okay then we are down 3 then the Dame shot sends it to OT. This basically sounds like the bull all the time where people claim Dame tries to take a ton of credit for his loyalty and constantly brings it up in interviews. But if you watch those interviews in their entirety he is asked about why he stays, or asked if he will ever want to leave.
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GEE wrote:I'm sure everyone here remembers Dame's 3-pointer from deep, right in PG13's face. It was a huge moment in Blazers' history and made Dame, in the eyes of most fans, the clutch performer that he's been titled.
But does anyone really remember the possession before that, in that very game? I do. We were down three, with time winding down and that bum Harkless buried, IMO, the real clutch shot in that game: A corner three to tie that game. We then were able to get a stop, and with the score tied, thanks to Harkless, Dame made "The Shot".
Dame's with the score tied, IMO was far less clutch than Harkless'. Had Dame missed, we only would have gone to overtime, and it would not have necessarily resulted in a loss. But Dame had no problem taking all of the credit. Great individual player... horrible teammate.
You've gotta let go of this Dame hate when it's reached the point you're talking about a shot that's four years old. Calling him a horrible teammates is unfounded when the players who have played with him speak highly of him as a person and he's been voted best leader in the NBA by GMs in the past.
You gotta step back and ask yourself why you're so angry at this basketball player that you're coming up with unfounded stuff to say about him as a person.
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The Sebastian Express wrote:GEE wrote:I'm sure everyone here remembers Dame's 3-pointer from deep, right in PG13's face. It was a huge moment in Blazers' history and made Dame, in the eyes of most fans, the clutch performer that he's been titled.
But does anyone really remember the possession before that, in that very game? I do. We were down three, with time winding down and that bum Harkless buried, IMO, the real clutch shot in that game: A corner three to tie that game. We then were able to get a stop, and with the score tied, thanks to Harkless, Dame made "The Shot".
Dame's with the score tied, IMO was far less clutch than Harkless'. Had Dame missed, we only would have gone to overtime, and it would not have necessarily resulted in a loss. But Dame had no problem taking all of the credit. Great individual player... horrible teammate.
You've gotta let go of this Dame hate when it's reached the point you're talking about a shot that's four years old. Calling him a horrible teammates is unfounded when the players who have played with him speak highly of him as a person and he's been voted best leader in the NBA by GMs in the past.
You gotta step back and ask yourself why you're so angry at this basketball player that you're coming up with unfounded stuff to say about him as a person.
I have zero "hate" for Dame, and not the least bit "angry". Not sure where you're getting that from, but you can falsely label me all you want. I'm simply saying that "The Shot" really wasn't very clutch at all, and not nearly as incredible as people made it out to be. That's all.
Two free throws, down by one with no time on the clock, I feel is still the biggest pressure cooker.
I've said it many times that I think Dame is one of the greatest shooters ever, and easily the best shooter that the Blazers have ever had. But I also think the marketing and branding of him has made people slightly delusional as to how great of player he really is.
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But I also think the marketing and branding of him has made people slightly delusional as to how great of player he really is.
This is one thing, and its a statement that is at leas arguable. I partially agree, and I think its a statement that bears some truth.
But creating a fake narrative that he is self-aggrandizing and doesnt care about the team is just not true.
You can argue that we should move Dame as he is past the point of being a #1 on a title team. I think this is arguable. Or that we simply dont have the talent, nor the avenue to acquiring the talent, to make it feasible to compete w/ Dame. Or that he is due to decline and is going to be making far too much.
But resorting to making up what amounts to negative personality traits is just not needed when espousing a reason for moving Dame.
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GEE wrote:Great individual player... horrible teammate.
Sounds like a pretty hateful statement to me - especially from someone who has never played with him.
Have any of his current, or former, teammates every said anything remotely negative about Dame? No, they have not. You are attempting create a false narrative to suit your personal anti-Dame agenda.
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GEE wrote:The Sebastian Express wrote:GEE wrote:I'm sure everyone here remembers Dame's 3-pointer from deep, right in PG13's face. It was a huge moment in Blazers' history and made Dame, in the eyes of most fans, the clutch performer that he's been titled.
But does anyone really remember the possession before that, in that very game? I do. We were down three, with time winding down and that bum Harkless buried, IMO, the real clutch shot in that game: A corner three to tie that game. We then were able to get a stop, and with the score tied, thanks to Harkless, Dame made "The Shot".
Dame's with the score tied, IMO was far less clutch than Harkless'. Had Dame missed, we only would have gone to overtime, and it would not have necessarily resulted in a loss. But Dame had no problem taking all of the credit. Great individual player... horrible teammate.
You've gotta let go of this Dame hate when it's reached the point you're talking about a shot that's four years old. Calling him a horrible teammates is unfounded when the players who have played with him speak highly of him as a person and he's been voted best leader in the NBA by GMs in the past.
You gotta step back and ask yourself why you're so angry at this basketball player that you're coming up with unfounded stuff to say about him as a person.
I have zero "hate" for Dame, and not the least bit "angry". Not sure where you're getting that from, but you can falsely label me all you want. I'm simply saying that "The Shot" really wasn't very clutch at all, and not nearly as incredible as people made it out to be. That's all.
Two free throws, down by one with no time on the clock, I feel is still the biggest pressure cooker.
I've said it many times that I think Dame is one of the greatest shooters ever, and easily the best shooter that the Blazers have ever had. But I also think the marketing and branding of him has made people slightly delusional as to how great of player he really is.
My dear. The only person falsely labeling people here is you. You are creating this idea of Dame the terrible teammate out of thin air to justify your dislike of him.
None of us here have issues with you having criticisms of Dame the basketball player, even if I think some of them are unfounded or stretches. We do have issues with you taking aim at him as a -person-. You are speculating, creating allegations out of thin air and painting him beyond the scope of how he plays on the basketball court. Because you do not like him as a player and want him traded. You've made this clear. I don't know why you don't, I don't know if you're just a major Ant stan (and that's cool if you are!).
You aren't 'simply' saying that The Shot wasn't clutch. You called him a terrible teammate. You are casting aspersions on him as a person without facts backing you up, just stuff you've come up with in your head to fit your claims. You gotta let the hate go, man.
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I thought it was an amazing shot. He is 1 of 2 or 3 people in the history of the NBA that has multiple series winning shots. This one was from like 35 feet away and the way he set it up was awesome. Yeah, if he missed they would have gone into overtime. But he didnt miss!!! That's clutch in my book. It's fine if you dont think so. The difference is we are not spouting it on a sports forum 4-5 years later. Why are you bringing it up now?
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