2023 NBA Draft (tonight's discussion on pg 58)

[JasonStern]

Maybe we could make a secondary trade of Little for Bane?

Why would Memphis do that?

[m0ng0]

Maybe we could make a secondary trade of Little for Bane?

Why would Memphis do that?

Sorry that was sarcasm

[Norm2953]

Some perspective on the pick 3 of the NBA draft...

The last six players picked third in the NBA draft were

Tatum (2017, Luka (2018) Barrett (2019), Ball (2020), Mobley (2021), Smith (2022)

Third seems like a great spot to be in for every team that has a top 3 pick. Giving it away in
one of these win now trades, just to please Dame is just nuts unless the team gets a Mikal
Bridges, who is not a guy on the last year of his deal and signed to a great contract.

Unless the team is just bowled over with an offer, just take the top 3 player who will be
available at 3. It's a no brainer decision

[Pattycakes]

Some perspective on the pick 3 of the NBA draft...

The last six players picked third in the NBA draft were

Tatum (2017, Luka (2018) Barrett (2019), Ball (2020), Mobley (2021), Smith (2022)

Third seems like a great spot to be in for every team that has a top 3 pick. Giving it away in
one of these win now trades, just to please Dame is just nuts unless the team gets a Mikal
Bridges, who is not a guy on the last year of his deal and signed to a great contract.

Unless the team is just bowled over with an offer, just take the top 3 player who will be
available at 3. It's a no brainer decision

I really want scoot ngl. Planning post dame - sorry I see nothing smarter, he is a very solid addition to Shaedon and even Ant if he’s still here. We obv need big men and length to boot, but that’s def got top backcourt potential in a few years.

[Goldbum]

I think if we draft Scoot we need to keep Ant and trade Dame. That sucks, but we can't develop Scoot with both Ant and Dame. Dames value is still sky high and we desperately need some shooting punch to go along with the "flight brothers". With 96 backcourt minutes available per game 32 for each keeps the pressure on. The Sharpe/Scoot rookie deals minimize the "Ant makes too much to come off the bench" narrative. That's 16 minutes each of Scoot+Ant, Scoot +Shaedon, and Ant+Sharpe. Talk about upside.

[Norm2953]

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I saw this on the Hornets board.

Its footage of a Brandon Miller workout

[m0ng0]

Damn

[DusterBuster]

I think if we draft Scoot we need to keep Ant and trade Dame. That sucks, but we can't develop Scoot with both Ant and Dame. Dames value is still sky high and we desperately need some shooting punch to go along with the "flight brothers". With 96 backcourt minutes available per game 32 for each keeps the pressure on. The Sharpe/Scoot rookie deals minimize the "Ant makes too much to come off the bench" narrative. That's 16 minutes each of Scoot+Ant, Scoot +Shaedon, and Ant+Sharpe. Talk about upside.

I can’t disagree with this more. I don’t see any reason the Blazers can’t keep Dame and Scoot, at least for a year. Dame and Sharpe starting with Scoot off the bench for yr one is not a bad position imo. Scoot learning from Dame and then if he’s looking ready for prime time early, maybe looking to move Dame at the deadline or next summer.

I think Ant is the guy who needs to be traded regardless. There’s not enough space for Dame, Sharpe, Ant and Scoot. That I agree with. But I don’t buy the narrative that drafting Scoot is a done deal for trading Dame.

Honestly, I think Ant should be moved even if the Blazers wanted to just full on blow it up with a Dame trade. Either let Scoot develop under Dame for a short bit or give Scoot and Sharpe the keys and let the chips fall where they may. I love Ant’s game, but I’m ok trading him this summer just like I was ok S&Ting him last summer, I just don’t want any more undersized guard rotations and Ant is just an awkward fit. He was an awkward fit as starting SG next to Dame, just like he will be next to Scoot, and I think he won’t be as effective off the bench as he is starting. So I think Ant needs to be cashed out on this summer, then you can decide what to do about Dame after.

[DusterBuster]

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I saw this on the Hornets board.

Its footage of a Brandon Miller workout

I wonder if Miller is planning on working out for Portland or if his reps will only have him work out for Charlotte as a way to make it seem like they’re that confident he’s #2?

[DusterBuster]

Damn

He looks good, but man… don’t get twisted over workout videos where middle aged training staff are playing no defense and he’s just going through drills.

That said, it sure feels like the Blazers are in a good spot to get a super high level talent regardless of how things shake out.

[DusterBuster]

At this point, my hope is they find a way to pay off the Chicago debt. They just keep and make the pick, regardless of if it’s Scoot or Miller. Then package Ant with multiple future picks, and maybe Nurkic, for a C like Turner.

[Norm2953]

I am enthused however that Portland has a top 3 pick and no matter what Charlotte does at 2,
Portland at 3 will be adding a really good player for next season.

Miller certainly appears to be a big, fluid 6'9 guy who appears to be a cross of Paul George and
Brandon Ingram. Portland would certainly take him if he's there at 3 but if its Scoot, he's got
really big hands and might be somewhat like Ja Morant, and he will attack the basket and set guys
up for open looks.

I'm wondering if he's working out in Portland for if he does not, its clear he has a promise from
Charlotte, he's going 2.

[JRoy]

Damn

He looks good, but man… don’t get twisted over workout videos where middle aged training staff are playing no defense and he’s just going through drills.

That said, it sure feels like the Blazers are in a good spot to get a super high level talent regardless of how things shake out.

Supposedly Martell Webster had a terrific workout.

[Norm2953]

Damn

He looks good, but man… don’t get twisted over workout videos where middle aged training staff are playing no defense and he’s just going through drills.

That said, it sure feels like the Blazers are in a good spot to get a super high level talent regardless of how things shake out.

Supposedly Martell Webster had a terrific workout.

That's the draft when Portland traded down to 6 to pick Martell when CP3 and Deron Williams were on
the board

[JRoy]

He looks good, but man… don’t get twisted over workout videos where middle aged training staff are playing no defense and he’s just going through drills.

That said, it sure feels like the Blazers are in a good spot to get a super high level talent regardless of how things shake out.

Supposedly Martell Webster had a terrific workout.

That's the draft when Portland traded down to 6 to pick Martell when CP3 and Deron Williams were on
the board

Exactly.

PGOTF Sebastian Telfair on deck.

[Norm2953]

All they need to do is pick the top 3 guy who will be available to them at 3.

What would mess them up is if Charlotte picks someone else at 2, leaving both Scoot
and Miller there at 3

[DusterBuster]

Supposedly Martell Webster had a terrific workout.

That's the draft when Portland traded down to 6 to pick Martell when CP3 and Deron Williams were on
the board

Exactly.

PGOTF Sebastian Telfair on deck.

Exactly why I’m massively against trading down in this draft. Just don’t over think it. Portland is struggling to trade for an OG-level player, so if Miller is even close to an Ingram player, that’s better than any trade Portland may have available. Miller will be a great fit if they keep Dame and just look to trade Ant and/or Nurk with some picks. Scoot will be a great fit to learn under Dame or even if they just decide to move Dame and reboot.

So Portland is in a good spot and really shouldn’t trade that pick unless it’s a pretty amazing deal. Otherwise, from a depth perspective, just making the pick and doing deals outside of their #3 pick is probably the best course here.

The only path where they get really “locked” into any path where they’re screwed if it doesn’t work is if they move the #3, Ant and Nurk for a single player. If they do that all that for like Siakam, then just a MLE signing, then if Dame and that prime star don’t mesh… then you’re in trouble.

[The Sebastian Express]

At this point, my hope is they find a way to pay off the Chicago debt. They just keep and make the pick, regardless of if it’s Scoot or Miller. Then package Ant with multiple future picks, and maybe Nurkic, for a C like Turner.

I wonder if we keep and make the pick if something could be worked around Ant to Orlando for the 11, the 11 plus a future Portland first or two to Indiana for Turner. I don't know. Indiana's value on Turner from the fan perspective makes it get a tough read on his actual value.

I do get the concerns about his rebounding, though.

[DusterBuster]

At this point, my hope is they find a way to pay off the Chicago debt. They just keep and make the pick, regardless of if it’s Scoot or Miller. Then package Ant with multiple future picks, and maybe Nurkic, for a C like Turner.

I wonder if we keep and make the pick if something could be worked around Ant to Orlando for the 11, the 11 plus a future Portland first or two to Indiana for Turner. I don't know. Indiana's value on Turner from the fan perspective makes it get a tough read on his actual value.

I do get the concerns about his rebounding, though.

Turner would require Ant and Nurk to match salaries. I could maybe see a three team deal with Por/Ind/Orl… but yeah, like you said, it’s hard to know what Indy is doing right now. Or if Pritchard still has his stance on never working with Portland…

[Norm2953]

I would look into a Ant +23 trade to move up to get Derek Lively, who appears to be the best of
a poor crop of bigs