Would you agree that....

[NotMyKawhi]

If you trade the 3rd pick you'll get way more value than it's worth.


But if you don't trade the 3rd pick and dame demands a trade you'll get way less value than what dame is worth? You'll get herro at most i even doubt that. The Heat love to rip ppl off. It might be beal (lowry and duncan) trade plus a pick in the 20s

[Norm2953]

One does not necessarily assume trading 3 for what the market offers does not still prevent
Dame from demanding a trade.

In the end, Portland has to do what they feel is in their best interests and if that's picking a
a really good young player to add to Sharpe, that will be the core of the next generation
of Blazer teams

Dame could still ask out and Portland will have to deal with what the market allows with the
new CBA. One can assume Jimmy Butler is not the only star player that is trying to recruit
Dame to their team.

[zzaj]

No. I wouldn’t agree.

This gets my vote for worst post on the Blazer Board in the last year—from click bait thread title, all the way to the nothing on the reveal.

[Brandon-Clyde]

No. I wouldn’t agree.

This gets my vote for worst post on the Blazer Board in the last year—from click bait thread title, all the way to the nothing on the reveal.

Another poster from a different fan base that wants either the 3rd pick or Dame and thinks Portland should give it to them cheaply or that Portland should overpay for their "star" player. I think I can guess what this one wants

[Goldbum]

Yeah, I disagree. I've heard a couple of the Dame offers and they are definitely a haul. One offer was a sort of fast forward deal for the rebuild. The other gave us 5 firsts. I think if Portland does decide it's time, they will walk out of Thursday's draft with a whole new team and direction.

[PDXKnight]

I think all hints are dame loves it here still but IF he's not ok with, say, Scoot in the shadows what rule says we have to trade him to miami who has no assets? I've said this before and I'll repeat usually stars give a list of teams they'd prefer and their team does them the solid of getting them in the ballpark of where they want to go. That doesn't mean we have to take an offer from Miami that is, to be quite frank, offensive even if they offer the most they're able to. They're not gonna offer buckets obviously so that leaves herro and minor pieces and maybe a couple firsts that won't be all that good because their picks are mostly locked up.

Pat Riley can convince us all he wants to do Dame a solid and if Dame wants out I believe that is the right course. But that doesnt mean accepting a bad trade theres other options.. Maybe he likes Brooklyn or NY which are both teams with a lot more assets to get us where we need to be. I dont think we are the wizards with Beal. We don't need the best offer available if it means itll screw Dame but I dont consider it unfair to expect something in the ballpark of fair and what miami has to offer isn't close to reasonable.

Doing Dame a solid in my eyes means trying our best to accommodate whatever his desires are. If it's miami and that's all he wants then maybe things change but if there's 3 teams he'd be happy with then our options increase substantially. But regardless there is no clause in his contract saying we have to take a bad offer if that's what Dame wants. It's a two way street and I'm sure we will work with Dame if that's where things head but we can't take a cracked wooden spoon for an ounce of gold.

[ebott]

I also disagree. I don't have any insider knowledge of any kind but all the rumors are that there aren't any attractive deals for the 3rd pick. If there were, it would be a no brainer to trade the pick and keep on rolling with Dame.

[DusterBuster]

Yeah, I disagree. I've heard a couple of the Dame offers and they are definitely a haul. One offer was a sort of fast forward deal for the rebuild. The other gave us 5 firsts. I think if Portland does decide it's time, they will walk out of Thursday's draft with a whole new team and direction.

Yeah, I'm coming around to the idea that Portland may trade Dame just as easy as they will the 3 on Thursday. I think everyone is feeling the pressure of just "pick a lane and let's move on".

If other teams are just strongarming Portland left right and center, but there are some huge haul Dame trades, maybe Portland just goes "Look, we have Sharpe, we have Scoot (or Miller), we can have additional 1st round picks for the rest of the decade and some nice other young players to keep competing with... lets just pull the trigger and hand the keys off to the next era."

It's what I've been saying for awhile now, I'm just ready for a decision to be made and unless a horrendous trade is made, I'll be fine with whatever direction they pick.

[The Sebastian Express]

For me in Dame trade has to include an unprotected 2026 pick. The next two drafts are not looking great, except maybe the top of 2025 if Flagg reclassifies. But I want us to get a 2026 unprotected.

I am still firmly in the keep Dame camp, though. But this is just if it comes to this.

[Wizenheimer]

I've heard a couple of the Dame offers and they are definitely a haul. One offer was a sort of fast forward deal for the rebuild. The other gave us 5 firsts. .

wut?...what "offers"?

are you confusing actual front office offers with internet speculation? I've been paying attention and I haven't heard about any offers for Dame

[mighty_duck]

Yup, as others have mentioned, all of your points are invalid.

From a fan's perspective:
We are not getting bowled over with offers for #3, who may turn into a perennial all-star. At best, we're seeing rumors of fringe all-stars or players with injury concerns, while also forcing us to give up assets like Simons.

We won't trade Dame for a poo-poo platter, certainly not now.
He's signed for four more years, and even if he's unhappy with not trading for vets, he probably won't go to extreme measures like sitting out games, faking injuries, or giving half-***ed efforts. He's too high character.

If we do decide to trade Dame, we'll wait for a return like what KD/Gobert got. If you don't have those kinds of assets, don't bother coming here.
Otherwise, we can run it back, with additions of Scoot/Miller, growth from Sharpe, and hopefully a healthy MLE signing.

[DusterBuster]

I've heard a couple of the Dame offers and they are definitely a haul. One offer was a sort of fast forward deal for the rebuild. The other gave us 5 firsts. .

wut?...what "offers"?

are you confusing actual front office offers with internet speculation? I've been paying attention and I haven't heard about any offers for Dame

Goldbum has claimed to have contact with insider info fwiw. I'm assuming what he's heard is from that source.

[Wizenheimer]

I've heard a couple of the Dame offers and they are definitely a haul. One offer was a sort of fast forward deal for the rebuild. The other gave us 5 firsts. .

wut?...what "offers"?

are you confusing actual front office offers with internet speculation? I've been paying attention and I haven't heard about any offers for Dame

Goldbum has claimed to have contact with insider info fwiw. I'm assuming what he's heard is from that source.

I seem to remember him saying something, and what I seem to remember was some 2023 draft picks being involved and I just don't think that's realistic

[Jsun947]

Yeah, I disagree. I've heard a couple of the Dame offers and they are definitely a haul. One offer was a sort of fast forward deal for the rebuild. The other gave us 5 firsts. I think if Portland does decide it's time, they will walk out of Thursday's draft with a whole new team and direction.

Yeah, I'm coming around to the idea that Portland may trade Dame just as easy as they will the 3 on Thursday. I think everyone is feeling the pressure of just "pick a lane and let's move on".

If other teams are just strongarming Portland left right and center, but there are some huge haul Dame trades, maybe Portland just goes "Look, we have Sharpe, we have Scoot (or Miller), we can have additional 1st round picks for the rest of the decade and some nice other young players to keep competing with... lets just pull the trigger and hand the keys off to the next era."

It's what I've been saying for awhile now, I'm just ready for a decision to be made and unless a horrendous trade is made, I'll be fine with whatever direction they pick.

Yup, same. Pick one direction and make good trades. I don’t care what the direction is but I don’t want to see this nonsense where we have one leg in and one leg out anymore.

[JasonStern]

Without knowing who is available, who knows?
I agree with the pick being worth more pre-draft than post-draft. Car loses 5%+ of its value driving off of the lot syndrome.

[mojomarc]

Without knowing who is available, who knows?
I agree with the pick being worth more pre-draft than post-draft. Car loses 5%+ of its value driving off of the lot syndrome.

Maybe. But then again, this is a three person draft and we get whatever lands as third. So the only limitation on value is from teams where they hope Scoot goes second. No one seems to think that's a realistic option, though, so I think the value is pretty much Scoot both before and after the draft.

[JasonStern]

Without knowing who is available, who knows?
I agree with the pick being worth more pre-draft than post-draft. Car loses 5%+ of its value driving off of the lot syndrome.

Maybe. But then again, this is a three person draft and we get whatever lands as third. So the only limitation on value is from teams where they hope Scoot goes second. No one seems to think that's a realistic option, though, so I think the value is pretty much Scoot both before and after the draft.

The Spurs drafting Wembanyama is a given. Trades aside, the Hornets taking their pick of Scoot/Miller is a given. And the Blazers taking who remains is a given.

But I meant who is available trade-wise. For example, Siakam would be amazing for the Blazers. Fills a position of need. Is in his prime. Proven commodity. But, he's also expiring and on an expensive contract. That makes him less valuable. If Scoot ends up being the next Chris Paul and you traded him for a one-year rental of Pascal Siakam, that's a terrible return.

[mojomarc]

Without knowing who is available, who knows?
I agree with the pick being worth more pre-draft than post-draft. Car loses 5%+ of its value driving off of the lot syndrome.

Maybe. But then again, this is a three person draft and we get whatever lands as third. So the only limitation on value is from teams where they hope Scoot goes second. No one seems to think that's a realistic option, though, so I think the value is pretty much Scoot both before and after the draft.

The Spurs drafting Wembanyama is a given. Trades aside, the Hornets taking their pick of Scoot/Miller is a given. And the Blazers taking who remains is a given.

But I meant who is available trade-wise. For example, Siakam would be amazing for the Blazers. Fills a position of need. Is in his prime. Proven commodity. But, he's also expiring and on an expensive contract. That makes him less valuable. If Scoot ends up being the next Chris Paul and you traded him for a one-year rental of Pascal Siakam, that's a terrible return.

Thanks. That makes more sense.