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This seasons depth chart is still very fluid, but what would it look like currently?

I was not very familiar with Brogdon, but I thought he was a 2/3 wing, but he's 6'4". Would he line up as a big Guard, 1/2?

PG: Scoot, Brogdon, Simons
SG: Simons, Sharpe, Rupert
SF: Thybulle, Murray, Camara, Rupert
PF: Grant, Walker, Butler
C: Ayton, Williams

Brogdon and Williams gives Portland much needed quality depth assuming they stay.

One can see perhaps some two big (Ayton/Williams) lineups with Scoot, Simons, Sharpe
and Brogdon when Grant is on the bench. Team actually has enough size to be
competitive on the boards

I could see Portland going into the season with this depth chart, unless they get a really
good offer for Brogdon.

Norm2953 wrote:Brogdon and Williams gives Portland much needed quality depth assuming they stay.

One can see perhaps some two big (Ayton/Williams) lineups with Scoot, Simons, Sharpe
and Brogdon when Grant is on the bench. Team actually has enough size to be
competitive on the boards

I could see Portland going into the season with this depth chart, unless they get a really
good offer for Brogdon.

I agree, but Brogdon seems a lock to be moved again. He may not even want to be in Portland, plus Cronin will want to capitalize on Brogdon’s 6th man award… trade him while his value is high. Probably won’t be any higher than it is now.

Likely Brogdon gets moved again for protected FRP but that might be closer to the
trade deadline.

I do like the idea of the Bulls getting Brogdon but Portland's depth chart lacks an NBA
starting caliber SF unless one of the rookies really develops during the season. if
Kris Murray plays much like his brother Keegan in his rookie season, Portland might
be better than expected but that's a big IF

Lots of depth in the BC with Scoot, Simons, Brogdon and Sharpe and one has to think
one of the guards will be seeing some time at SF.


SF Thybulle, Murray
PF Grant, Walker
C Ayton, Williams
SG Simons, Sharpe
PG Scoot, Brogdon

Norm2953 wrote:SF Thybulle, Murray
PF Grant, Walker
C Ayton, Williams
SG Simons, Sharpe
PG Scoot, Brogdon

That's two players playing up one position (Simons and thybullle), and arguably 3 with Grant.

I'd like to see brogdon traded for a 3 and d wing with size, or even a stretch PF who would move Grant to SF

mighty_duck wrote:

Norm2953 wrote:SF Thybulle, Murray
PF Grant, Walker
C Ayton, Williams
SG Simons, Sharpe
PG Scoot, Brogdon

That's two players playing up one position (Simons and thybullle), and arguably 3 with Grant.

I'd like to see brogdon traded for a 3 and d wing with size, or even a stretch PF who would move Grant to SF

yup there’s moves needed yet. of course this season may be a lost cause anyhow so we will see how cronin plays it. id imagine more than normal there’s a high propensity to just “roll with it” but brogan for a young pf would be a sexy move

C TL/Ayton
PF Ayton/Grant
SF Grant/Thybulle
SG Sharpe/Simons
PF Scoot/Simons

Starting 5 has nobody up a position. Finally a Blazers team with size.

Edit: "Grant" not "Green"

DusterBuster wrote:

Norm2953 wrote:Brogdon and Williams gives Portland much needed quality depth assuming they stay.

One can see perhaps some two big (Ayton/Williams) lineups with Scoot, Simons, Sharpe
and Brogdon when Grant is on the bench. Team actually has enough size to be
competitive on the boards

I could see Portland going into the season with this depth chart, unless they get a really
good offer for Brogdon.

I agree, but Brogdon seems a lock to be moved again. He may not even want to be in Portland, plus Cronin will want to capitalize on Brogdon’s 6th man award… trade him while his value is high. Probably won’t be any higher than it is now.

The big question will be his medicals. That's the reason he isn't a Clipper right now.

dunlop212 wrote:C TL/Ayton
PF Ayton/Green
SF Green/Thybulle
SG Sharpe/Simons
PF Scoot/Simons

Starting 5 has nobody up a position. Finally a Blazers team with size.

Who's Green? Do you mean Grant? I think he's a PF at this point, not a SF.

I'm not convinced Simons will be coming off the bench right away (if ever) I think he will be the starter at SG. Sharpe will maybe start at SF or come off the bench.

DusterBuster wrote:

Norm2953 wrote:Brogdon and Williams gives Portland much needed quality depth assuming they stay.

One can see perhaps some two big (Ayton/Williams) lineups with Scoot, Simons, Sharpe
and Brogdon when Grant is on the bench. Team actually has enough size to be
competitive on the boards

I could see Portland going into the season with this depth chart, unless they get a really
good offer for Brogdon.

I agree, but Brogdon seems a lock to be moved again. He may not even want to be in Portland, plus Cronin will want to capitalize on Brogdon’s 6th man award… trade him while his value is high. Probably won’t be any higher than it is now.

His value would likely go higher when he gets on the court and shows he is fully recovered from his arm injury

Blazinaway wrote:

DusterBuster wrote:

Norm2953 wrote:Brogdon and Williams gives Portland much needed quality depth assuming they stay.

One can see perhaps some two big (Ayton/Williams) lineups with Scoot, Simons, Sharpe
and Brogdon when Grant is on the bench. Team actually has enough size to be
competitive on the boards

I could see Portland going into the season with this depth chart, unless they get a really
good offer for Brogdon.

I agree, but Brogdon seems a lock to be moved again. He may not even want to be in Portland, plus Cronin will want to capitalize on Brogdon’s 6th man award… trade him while his value is high. Probably won’t be any higher than it is now.

His value would likely go higher when he gets on the court and shows he is fully recovered from his arm injury

Part of me wonders if we shouldn't hold onto him unless someone overpays, having a 3 point threat off the bench will help scoot be able to use the lanes and a lotto protected 1st isn't all that lucrative anyhow

PDXKnight wrote:

Blazinaway wrote:

DusterBuster wrote:
I agree, but Brogdon seems a lock to be moved again. He may not even want to be in Portland, plus Cronin will want to capitalize on Brogdon’s 6th man award… trade him while his value is high. Probably won’t be any higher than it is now.

His value would likely go higher when he gets on the court and shows he is fully recovered from his arm injury

Part of me wonders if we shouldn't hold onto him unless someone overpays, having a 3 point threat off the bench will help scoot be able to use the lanes and a lotto protected 1st isn't all that lucrative anyhow

Likely Brogdon starts the season in Portland for he needs to show he's healthy and yes, PDX is right we will
need his firepower off the bench.

Portland really doesn't have a SF who should start, why means Thybulle is the starter by default unless
Sharpe gets minutes there. It would really help Portland if Murray earns quality minutes for his brother
averaged 12/4 in Sacramento as a rookie.

Norm2953 wrote:

PDXKnight wrote:

Blazinaway wrote:
His value would likely go higher when he gets on the court and shows he is fully recovered from his arm injury

Part of me wonders if we shouldn't hold onto him unless someone overpays, having a 3 point threat off the bench will help scoot be able to use the lanes and a lotto protected 1st isn't all that lucrative anyhow

Likely Brogdon starts the season in Portland for he needs to show he's healthy and yes, PDX is right we will
need his firepower off the bench.

Portland really doesn't have a SF who should start, why means Thybulle is the starter by default unless
Sharpe gets minutes there. It would really help Portland if Murray earns quality minutes for his brother
averaged 12/4 in Sacramento as a rookie.

In a perfect world I'd like three perimeter shooting threats with the starters. In the likely starting 5, I'd consider their pure shooters as...Simons, with Grant as a plus from the 4 spot.

I like Thybulle as the starting 3 for defense, but I would prefer improved shooting to offset Scoot.

Butter wrote:

Norm2953 wrote:

PDXKnight wrote:
Part of me wonders if we shouldn't hold onto him unless someone overpays, having a 3 point threat off the bench will help scoot be able to use the lanes and a lotto protected 1st isn't all that lucrative anyhow

Likely Brogdon starts the season in Portland for he needs to show he's healthy and yes, PDX is right we will
need his firepower off the bench.

Portland really doesn't have a SF who should start, why means Thybulle is the starter by default unless
Sharpe gets minutes there. It would really help Portland if Murray earns quality minutes for his brother
averaged 12/4 in Sacramento as a rookie.

In a perfect world I'd like three perimeter shooting threats with the starters. In the likely starting 5, I'd consider their pure shooters as...Simons, with Grant as a plus from the 4 spot.

I like Thybulle as the starting 3 for defense, but I would prefer improved shooting to offset Scoot.

Thybulle and grant at 3/4 is gonna be a major size and rebounding liability. Thybulle can defend well but he doesn't have the size to match up against some of the bigger wings in the league tbh

PDXKnight wrote:

Butter wrote:

Norm2953 wrote:
Likely Brogdon starts the season in Portland for he needs to show he's healthy and yes, PDX is right we will
need his firepower off the bench.

Portland really doesn't have a SF who should start, why means Thybulle is the starter by default unless
Sharpe gets minutes there. It would really help Portland if Murray earns quality minutes for his brother
averaged 12/4 in Sacramento as a rookie.

In a perfect world I'd like three perimeter shooting threats with the starters. In the likely starting 5, I'd consider their pure shooters as...Simons, with Grant as a plus from the 4 spot.

I like Thybulle as the starting 3 for defense, but I would prefer improved shooting to offset Scoot.

Thybulle and grant at 3/4 is gonna be a major size and rebounding liability. Thybulle can defend well but he doesn't have the size to match up against some of the bigger wings in the league tbh

I'd be much more excited about Thybulle as high quality depth.

dunlop212 wrote:C TL/Ayton
PF Ayton/Grant
SF Grant/Thybulle
SG Sharpe/Simons
PF Scoot/Simons

Starting 5 has nobody up a position. Finally a Blazers team with size.

Edit: "Grant" not "Green"

I can definitely see us rolling out this lineup for stretches, but Williams and Ayton is an interesting pairing with a… let’s just say, unknown fit lol.

I think OP hit our initial rotation on the head pretty well. But it could very well change depending on how these youngsters gel with each other and who steps up the most.

While I'm not a huge fan of trotting out another duo of 6"3 guards after the Dame/CJ and Dame/Ant failures, there is a better chance this will work out. The reason being - Dame was a horrible defender. The defensive plan was tailored to try and hide this, either by having a strong support system when his man beat him (pre-injury Nurkic was good at this), or by stashing him on the opponent's weaker wing, who was often just idling in the corner as 3-and-D specialist. That left Ant/CJ taking on a tough assignment, and both weren't up to it.

While unproven, Scoot has the tools to be a plus defender at the point of attack. He's fast, strong, tenacious, with an apparent high BBIQ. If he puts it together (and that's a big ask for a rookie), we can hide Ant in much the same way as we did Dame. If it breaks down, we have the bigger Brogdon or Sharpe to fill in.

I can envision all out defensive units -
Big:
Ayton
TL
Grant
Thybulle
Scoot

Small:
TL
Grant
Thybulle
Brogdon
Scoot

I envision the last unit closing out a lot of games. It has a good combo of shooting, speed, defense and experience.

Butter wrote:

PDXKnight wrote:

Butter wrote:

In a perfect world I'd like three perimeter shooting threats with the starters. In the likely starting 5, I'd consider their pure shooters as...Simons, with Grant as a plus from the 4 spot.

I like Thybulle as the starting 3 for defense, but I would prefer improved shooting to offset Scoot.

Thybulle and grant at 3/4 is gonna be a major size and rebounding liability. Thybulle can defend well but he doesn't have the size to match up against some of the bigger wings in the league tbh

I'd be much more excited about Thybulle as high quality depth.

Thybulle is the starter by default. Team might be really good if they could flip Brogdon for a competent
SF, but that won't happy until mid December, when the restrictions on Brogdon will be lifted.

Norm2953 wrote:

Butter wrote:

PDXKnight wrote:
Thybulle and grant at 3/4 is gonna be a major size and rebounding liability. Thybulle can defend well but he doesn't have the size to match up against some of the bigger wings in the league tbh

I'd be much more excited about Thybulle as high quality depth.

Thybulle is the starter by default. Team might be really good if they could flip Brogdon for a competent
SF, but that won't happy until mid December, when the restrictions on Brogdon will be lifted.

Guards very rarely get turned into forwards in trades unless you're taking a significant talent drop. I think our best shot would be seeking relief for brogdons salary with pick(s) then pursuing og

Norm2953 wrote:Thybulle is the starter by default. Team might be really good if they could flip Brogdon for a competent
SF, but that won't happy until mid December, when the restrictions on Brogdon will be lifted.

What restrictions are there to dealing Brogdon before December?