RobWill getting strong interest from Lakers, Nuggets, Rockets
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:03 pm
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BlazersBroncos wrote:LAL and DEN have so many picks owed to other teams that to me, if I was their FO, moving a FRP for RWIII would be basically insane.
BlazersBroncos wrote:HOU has a surplus of picks and talent - I could see that working. Adams + 2025 FRP for RWIII is an overpay by HOU (I still dont see a guy as injured as RWIII having FRP value) - but they may be willing to pay it with their coaches connection to RWIII, surplus of picks and current high level of play.
Adams is a bonus - I think RWIII is a really good locker room guy. Him going out but Adams coming in means we dont lose that.
I would still try to move Ayton and run w/ Adams and DC at C if I had my way.
DeBlazerRiddem wrote:I'm low key hoping no one makes a good offer and he's back next year. I mean we gotta take it if someone offers something real but I love the guy.
DusterBuster wrote:DeBlazerRiddem wrote:I'm low key hoping no one makes a good offer and he's back next year. I mean we gotta take it if someone offers something real but I love the guy.
To be honest, I wouldn't hate this option either. Rob is awesome and I wouldn't even be totally shocked that, if the Blazers do keep him, they offer him some sort of extension this summer around the same number and with some injury protection outs for the team. I think that option is nearly as likely as them trading him.
All indications from those close to the team is that Rob was never truly considered a flip-piece in the Celtics trade. Cronin and company specifically valued his inclusion in the deal and like him as a fit more than an asset.
I would still air on the side of moving him if I were in Cronin's shoes. I just don't trust the knees enough and I like him so much as a player and person that I really want to see him get a chance to play for something while he's got some health on his side. I also think, and this is true for every player, unless a guy is a core roster pillar, trade guys while their value is at the peak. I'm not convinced Rob's value is gonna get much higher than it is now.
BlazersBroncos wrote:DusterBuster wrote:DeBlazerRiddem wrote:I'm low key hoping no one makes a good offer and he's back next year. I mean we gotta take it if someone offers something real but I love the guy.
To be honest, I wouldn't hate this option either. Rob is awesome and I wouldn't even be totally shocked that, if the Blazers do keep him, they offer him some sort of extension this summer around the same number and with some injury protection outs for the team. I think that option is nearly as likely as them trading him.
All indications from those close to the team is that Rob was never truly considered a flip-piece in the Celtics trade. Cronin and company specifically valued his inclusion in the deal and like him as a fit more than an asset.
I would still air on the side of moving him if I were in Cronin's shoes. I just don't trust the knees enough and I like him so much as a player and person that I really want to see him get a chance to play for something while he's got some health on his side. I also think, and this is true for every player, unless a guy is a core roster pillar, trade guys while their value is at the peak. I'm not convinced Rob's value is gonna get much higher than it is now.
I am here as well.
I would rather keep Rob around and move Ayton for a player with the same length deal than trade Rob and get a 25-30 FRP.
Rob is the type of vet you WANT to keep around. Ironically, he is also the only vet we are likely to trade lol.
DusterBuster wrote:DeBlazerRiddem wrote:I'm low key hoping no one makes a good offer and he's back next year. I mean we gotta take it if someone offers something real but I love the guy.
To be honest, I wouldn't hate this option either. Rob is awesome and I wouldn't even be totally shocked that, if the Blazers do keep him, they offer him some sort of extension this summer around the same number and with some injury protection outs for the team. I think that option is nearly as likely as them trading him.
All indications from those close to the team is that Rob was never truly considered a flip-piece in the Celtics trade. Cronin and company specifically valued his inclusion in the deal and like him as a fit more than an asset.
I would still air on the side of moving him if I were in Cronin's shoes. I just don't trust the knees enough and I like him so much as a player and person that I really want to see him get a chance to play for something while he's got some health on his side. I also think, and this is true for every player, unless a guy is a core roster pillar, trade guys while their value is at the peak. I'm not convinced Rob's value is gonna get much higher than it is now.
DeBlazerRiddem wrote:DusterBuster wrote:DeBlazerRiddem wrote:I'm low key hoping no one makes a good offer and he's back next year. I mean we gotta take it if someone offers something real but I love the guy.
To be honest, I wouldn't hate this option either. Rob is awesome and I wouldn't even be totally shocked that, if the Blazers do keep him, they offer him some sort of extension this summer around the same number and with some injury protection outs for the team. I think that option is nearly as likely as them trading him.
All indications from those close to the team is that Rob was never truly considered a flip-piece in the Celtics trade. Cronin and company specifically valued his inclusion in the deal and like him as a fit more than an asset.
I would still air on the side of moving him if I were in Cronin's shoes. I just don't trust the knees enough and I like him so much as a player and person that I really want to see him get a chance to play for something while he's got some health on his side. I also think, and this is true for every player, unless a guy is a core roster pillar, trade guys while their value is at the peak. I'm not convinced Rob's value is gonna get much higher than it is now.
It's for sure the smart thing to do, and as you point out if we take RW's interests into consideration the right thing to do by him as well. Honestly that is maybe a more compelling argument to me than getting whatever second round draft capital we can.
I'm just pretty jaded about getting more 2nd round picks when we just sold our last year. I know they can be useful but they also are just not hard to acquire if we do have a 2nd round target or need them and we have enough to grease the wheels so adding more is diminishing returns, just feels like we will probably waste them if that is all we get back.
Anyways, I know my position is somewhat irrational based on him just being a player type I really like. Love high IQ defensive minded bigs. I especially love that he is mentoring Clingan, who absolutely adores him, and think that the most beneficial thing he could do for us is to instill those habits and knowledge in our young center. Definitely dont want Clingan taking any inspiration from Ayton...
DusterBuster wrote:BlazersBroncos wrote:LAL and DEN have so many picks owed to other teams that to me, if I was their FO, moving a FRP for RWIII would be basically insane.
They do, but some of the early 2030's picks are starting to become trade available,
DusterBuster wrote:Rockets feel like such a natural landing spot here. I think Ime would do more than other coaches to encourage the FO to do what they need to do to get him. Unlike other coaches out there, he's the only one who's coached Rob before, knows first hand what he brings and how to use him.
They have a contract that can work 1 for 1 with Steven Adams, they also have expendable multiple FRPs.
Steven Adams + 2025 Rockets FRP (lottery protected) for Adams seems like a deal I would do. Maybe Portland can squeeze out a 2nd rounder as well if there's a bidding war?
tester551 wrote:DusterBuster wrote:Rockets feel like such a natural landing spot here. I think Ime would do more than other coaches to encourage the FO to do what they need to do to get him. Unlike other coaches out there, he's the only one who's coached Rob before, knows first hand what he brings and how to use him.
They have a contract that can work 1 for 1 with Steven Adams, they also have expendable multiple FRPs.
Steven Adams + 2025 Rockets FRP (lottery protected) for Adams seems like a deal I would do. Maybe Portland can squeeze out a 2nd rounder as well if there's a bidding war?
Rockets is good... but this is the trade:
RW3 + Banton
for
Whitmore + Landale (or Jeff Green)
zzaj wrote:tester551 wrote:DusterBuster wrote:Rockets feel like such a natural landing spot here. I think Ime would do more than other coaches to encourage the FO to do what they need to do to get him. Unlike other coaches out there, he's the only one who's coached Rob before, knows first hand what he brings and how to use him.
They have a contract that can work 1 for 1 with Steven Adams, they also have expendable multiple FRPs.
Steven Adams + 2025 Rockets FRP (lottery protected) for Adams seems like a deal I would do. Maybe Portland can squeeze out a 2nd rounder as well if there's a bidding war?
Rockets is good... but this is the trade:
RW3 + Banton
for
Whitmore + Landale (or Jeff Green)
Personally, with Deni and Camara on the team plus a likely SF/SG coming in from this draft I don't really see a need for Cam Whitmore. I also have a hard time with his 3pt shooting...
DusterBuster wrote:zzaj wrote:tester551 wrote:Rockets is good... but this is the trade:
RW3 + Banton
for
Whitmore + Landale (or Jeff Green)
Personally, with Deni and Camara on the team plus a likely SF/SG coming in from this draft I don't really see a need for Cam Whitmore. I also have a hard time with his 3pt shooting...
Yeah, I’d rather a pick than Whitmore. Blazers have plenty of guys at or above his talent level with a high level role player ceiling like Cam… so yeah, gimme some draft capital.
Walton1one wrote:One advantage for POR should be that they have a number of players that could be added to an RW3 deal that could help push the compensation coming back over the hump
Guys like, Thybulle ($11mil PO next year), Banton, Walker, Reath, (all making $2mil or under), even a guy like Murray ($2.9mil) or maybe even Rupert ($1.9mil)
I do think HOU makes the most sense, and I think they could acquire RW3 w\o messing with their core rotation or dealing a highly valuable 1st
HOUSTON
RW3\Thybulle\Walker
for
Landale\Tate\Green & Whitmore
RW3\Thybulle\Reath
for
Adams\Green\Landale 28' HOU 1st (lotto protected, if no convey, 1-8 in 29' (they have (2) 1st's in 29') if no convey, then (2) future 2nd's) & 25' 2nd (MEM has swap rights)
DENVER
They are $5.15mil under 2nd apron, hard capped @ 2nd apron (have to take less than they send out)
RW3
for
Nnaji\Saric & 31 1st (lotto protected)
RW3\Banton\Reath (or sub Walker for (1) of Reath\banton)
for
Nnaji, Saric & either Strawther or Watson
RW3\Simons\Reath
for
MPJ\Saric & Strawther (or Watson) + 31' lotto protected 1st
LAKERS
been through this a bunch, they don't want to spend a 1st unless it is for star & I don't think POR takes (2) mid\bad 25' 2nd's back for RW3, so it would have to be a young player
RW3\Thybulle\Banton (could be Walker or Reath)
for
Rui\JHS\Christie
RW3\Thybulle\Banton (or Walker\Reath)
for
Vincent\Vanderbilt\Knecht & lotto protected 29' (or 31') 1st
The latest reports are that to take on Vanderbilt's contract, the cost is a 1st, so Knecht + 1st, seems about right
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10152617-lakers-insider-teams-will-demand-1st-round-draft-pick-in-jarred-vanderbilt-trade
RW3 & (1) of Walker\Reath\Banton
for
Vincent\Knecht & (25' 2nd, most favorable)