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Would the Blazers go big and reunite Clingan with his college coach?

Hard to say, we are probably less of a mess than the Lakers were last off season when he turned them down. He seems like he genuinely loves college and it'd likely take a huge offer to pry him away and I'm not sure jody is able or even willing to pay that price

We'll go after whoever has some kind of inside connections to the blazers management agents. Like some assistant somewhere that has the same agent as Cronin, and you've probably never heard of that we can get for cheap. But in all likelihood we probably just re-sign billups because he's done such a great job.

Yeah, top candidates aren't considering this job.

Dan will have far better options than Portland if he decides to go the pro route.

The only chance we would have is to pay him an absurd amount. He turned down 6/50 from LAL last year. Think of what we would have to offer to get him to come to this tiny market with a team lacking blue chip talent. Probably something like 12-15M AV - which the Vulcans would never do.

PDXKnight wrote:Hard to say, we are probably less of a mess than the Lakers were last off season when he turned them down. He seems like he genuinely loves college and it'd likely take a huge offer to pry him away and I'm not sure jody is able or even willing to pay that price

I'm not convinced he was the one to turn them down. Lakers didn't make him a really competitive offer from what I recall (would have made more money staying in college if memory serves). That whole Hurley offer felt more for show (Lakers doing Hurley a solid to show he's got NBA interest and to save face that the JJ news leaked months prior).

BlazersBroncos wrote:Dan will have far better options than Portland if he decides to go the pro route.

The only chance we would have is to pay him an absurd amount. He turned down 6/50 from LAL last year. Think of what we would have to offer to get him to come to this tiny market with a team lacking blue chip talent. Probably something like 12-15M AV - which the Vulcans would never do.

Will he tho? Time will tell obviously, but there's not really many pro jobs out there right now.

I guess Sacramento might be looking for a new coach if they decide to not stick with Christie? I can't recall if he's just an interim or has the full gig after they fired Brown. Even if he's interim, I could see them just making him permanent this summer easily.

I suppose the Suns may fire coach Bud if they miss the playoffs... but they just paid a lot to get hm, so maybe not (but it wouldn't shock me if they did with out poorly that team is run)...

Tim Lehrbach wrote:Yeah, top candidates aren't considering this job.

Money trumps everything and there are only 30 of these jobs in the world.

Now, I agree, the offer needs to be in the 10+mil per range, but also I don't 100% agree/know that's something the Vulcan's would never do or Hurley wouldn't consider. They paid high for a coach in Nate McMillan after Mo Cheeks. The team was in a similar-ish situation, no real path forward after a successful run, was viewed as being penny-pinching post-JailBlazers... but they spent high on a splashing coach hire when they couldn't rebuild the team with trades.

I get your respective points, but I wouldn't say history agrees 100% on either of these... but also, at least regarding Vulcans... that was almost 20 years ago now, so obviously the guiding principles of an organization can change... so you still may be correct. For Hurley tho, it's going to be a business decision, money and opportunities. As of now, I don't see a ton of opportunities that will be available this summer... hell, maybe Cronin just rolls it back with Billups and this isn't even an option (dear god no), but I don't think it's something to discount out of hand.

I don’t think any top candidate would consider POR without adding a top shelf draftee.

I mentioned Hurley before, I think his flirtation with LAL indicates a willingness to test the waters in the NBA. I think he would be good for a young team that needs somne structure, as I don't think Chauncey's playcalling or lack thereof, provides any of that.

Now for reality:

He would want several (4? 5?) years
He would not come cheap
I imagine he would want to say in shaping the team, will Cronin allow that?

Billups is the lowest paid coach in the entire NBA, and even with this latest win streak, he is 104-197, a stellar 34.6% win% over 4 years and has never been close to sniffing a .500 record. He should have been fired LY, heck he should be fired now, but it is pretty clear that this organization Jodi\Bert\Cronin are too cheap to do that, so how can we even possibly fathom, them putting up big money, years and some version of control for a coach with a resume (and ego) of Hurley?

I just don't see it, would love to be wrong, I think he would be a good gamble to take and he is clearly a good coach, but this organization is too dysfunctional and cheap to for that to be a reality IMO.

Walton1one wrote:I mentioned Hurley before, I think his flirtation with LAL indicates a willingness to test the waters in the NBA. I think he would be good for a young team that needs somne structure, as I don't think Chauncey's playcalling or lack thereof, provides any of that.

Now for reality:

He would want several (4? 5?) years
He would not come cheap
I imagine he would want to say in shaping the team, will Cronin allow that?

Billups is the lowest paid coach in the entire NBA, and even with this latest win streak, he is 104-197, a stellar 34.6% win% over 4 years and has never been close to sniffing a .500 record. He should have been fired LY, heck he should be fired now, but it is pretty clear that this organization Jodi\Bert\Cronin are too cheap to do that, so how can we even possibly fathom, them putting up big money, years and some version of control for a coach with a resume (and ego) of Hurley?

I just don't see it, would love to be wrong, I think he would be a good gamble to take and he is clearly a good coach, but this organization is too dysfunctional and cheap to for that to be a reality IMO.

For being cheap they sure paid Grant a lot, took on major money with ayton and pay guys a lot of dough to rest (thybulle/rob) but I do get the point as I believe they'll always avoid the tax regardless if it means we don't win a championship.

Sometimes I think its a lack of passion far more than money. Maybe both but for sure there's a tendency among ownership and management to put things on autopilot and only intervene when absolutely necessary. That's what's easiest when you aren't really invested in a team having any real success on the court and just want the business side to run itself.

Olshey had a workplace complaint so jody/kolde find a convenient yes man to do their bidding, Autopilot. Cronin got rid of olsheys guys, once we got "Cronin's/ billups's guys" we found ourself once again with a gm who is far too in love with a mediocre roster and demanding way too much for middle of the road/glorified veterans. Keep the status quo, autopilot. And the same goes for the head coach, no changes necessary just keep moving ahead regardless of results. Autopilot.. Maybe eventually we change up the head coach or even the gm when someone needs to take the bullet for trickle down incompetency but nothing I've seen has convinced me we won't autopilot with another yes man once again.

I'd LOVE to see Dan Hurley coaching our young roster. He is exactly the kind of coach this team needs.

Unfortunately, given the way this team has been run since Paul died, we'be be lucky to get this guy:



And even he's probably prefer to sign with a better run organization.

He's got a top recruiting class about to enroll at UConn.

No need to take just any NBA job

Portland is exactly the kind of franchise and fan base that could attract Hurley.
Different.
And it will be a possibly younger group of guys after this summer.

Norm2953 wrote:He's got a top recruiting class about to enroll at UConn.

No need to take just any NBA job

Yes, this is the thing. He's not desperate to jump to the NBA. He's a hot commodity. He'll be choosy about where he goes if he goes. He doesn't want to have to fight for his next NBA job after losing heaps of games and taking the fall for a sorry franchise in his first. Unless he has faith in the organization and its prospects for immediate success, he ain't coming.

Norm2953 wrote:He's got a top recruiting class about to enroll at UConn.

No need to take just any NBA job

Yeah I agree. If we get a top 5 pick maybe he has more interest or specifically if we pull a rabbit out of our hats in the lotto