What player would YOU target in a use #11 - DENI 2.0 Trade?

[GEE]

I've been an open fan of trading for Rui Hachimura in the past, thinking (personally) he'd be a near perfect fit for our team, but I'm curious with the recent RJ chatter and other players that could be available to us (with a slight overpay of course)............ Who might YOU see as a perfect addition, like Deni was last year this time?

I personally would prefer a BANGER/PF type of addition because I think we're stacked 1-3. One more great addition like Cronin pulled last summer would be dreamy. If we could possibly pick at #11 and add a future complimentry big to pair with Clingan... I'd be even more stoked, but if it takes our FRP to add that perfect fit player like Deni proved to be, maybe we should consider the course again....

TARGETS ANYONE???

[Norm2953]

There are literally a bunch of young, projectable bigs in this draft.

Assuming Maluach is gone, there still is Noa, Queen, Newell, Sorber, Fleming, Wolf,'
Beringer, who all could be there at 11. All they need to do is draft one of these guys if
they want banger type of PF.

[zzaj]

I’m confused about the statement “…stacked 1-3”. So who of Camara or Deni is not the future starter and who will be superceded by trading the 11th pick?

[JRoy]

I've been an open fan of trading for Rui Hachimura in the past, thinking (personally) he'd be a near perfect fit for our team, but I'm curious with the recent RJ chatter and other players that could be available to us (with a slight overpay of course)............ Who might YOU see as a perfect addition, like Deni was last year this time?

I personally would prefer a BANGER/PF type of addition because I think we're stacked 1-3. One more great addition like Cronin pulled last summer would be dreamy. If we could possibly pick at #11 and add a future complimentry big to pair with Clingan... I'd be even more stoked, but if it takes our FRP to add that perfect fit player like Deni proved to be, maybe we should consider the course again....

TARGETS ANYONE???

I do not agree the Blazers are stacked 1-3. There are still lots of questions about both Scoot and Sharpe.

I would love to add Sharpe to 11 to move up for Tre Johnson and reset that rookie contract clock with a guy that can actually shoot the long ball.

[Walton1one]

Lol, the Blazers are not stacked at any position, they don’t have one All-Star on this roster

The list of players that could possibly be acquired for the #11 pick does not look appealing, nor does it push this team any farther than what, a play in, the #8 seed?whooptefreakindo

Cronin and Company must be high on their own supply if they really believe last year’s late season play was a sign that this team is ready to take a big leap. What a joke.

[Butter]

Lol, the Blazers are not stacked at any position, they don’t have one All-Star on this roster

The list of players that could possibly be acquired for the #11 pick does not look appealing, nor does it push this team any farther than what, a play in, the #8 seed?whooptefreakindo

Cronin and Company must be high on their own supply if they really believe last year’s late season play was a sign that this team is ready to take a big leap. What a joke.

They aren't "stacked" but they have young prospects at every position. I've said this before, but the lesson here is Sebastian Telfair. Just don't pass on Deron Williams because you think Martell Webster fits a need.

[DusterBuster]

Lol, the Blazers are not stacked at any position, they don’t have one All-Star on this roster

The list of players that could possibly be acquired for the #11 pick does not look appealing, nor does it push this team any farther than what, a play in, the #8 seed?whooptefreakindo

Cronin and Company must be high on their own supply if they really believe last year’s late season play was a sign that this team is ready to take a big leap. What a joke.

They aren't "stacked" but they have young prospects at every position. I've said this before, but the lesson here is Sebastian Telfair. Just don't pass on Deron Williams because you think Martell Webster fits a need.

I very much agree with the point you’re making, but there’s a vast differences in trading down from the #3 to #6 to take Martell Webster and passing on Deron Williams AND Chris Paul cause you were “set” at PG and what the Blazers current situation is at #11.

With that #3 pick year, there was a clear Top 4 talent in that draft, once you got to 6, it was more of a pickup who-do-you-like-best kind of draft. That’s what the Blazers #11 pick is like. This draft falls off talent wise after the top 6. 7-15 is just kind of whatever you think fits.

So I’m fine moving this years pick and not worried about the Deron/Paul type of situation here.

[Butter]

Lol, the Blazers are not stacked at any position, they don’t have one All-Star on this roster

The list of players that could possibly be acquired for the #11 pick does not look appealing, nor does it push this team any farther than what, a play in, the #8 seed?whooptefreakindo

Cronin and Company must be high on their own supply if they really believe last year’s late season play was a sign that this team is ready to take a big leap. What a joke.

They aren't "stacked" but they have young prospects at every position. I've said this before, but the lesson here is Sebastian Telfair. Just don't pass on Deron Williams because you think Martell Webster fits a need.

I very much agree with the point you’re making, but there’s a vast differences in trading down from the #3 to #6 to take Martell Webster and passing on Deron Williams AND Chris Paul cause you were “set” at PG and what the Blazers current situation is at #11.

With that #3 pick year, there was a clear Top 4 talent in that draft, once you got to 6, it was more of a pickup who-do-you-like-best kind of draft. That’s what the Blazers #11 pick is like. This draft falls off talent wise after the top 6. 7-15 is just kind of whatever you think fits.

So I’m fine moving this years pick and not worried about the Deron/Paul type of situation here.

Acknowledge we are talking about two different scenarios here, valid point. But, BPA is still applicable.

Shifting to the more realistic example, how many star players were picked at 11 in recent history? Quite a few. I'd rather roll the dice on a diamond in the rough then another Larry Nance Jr. Unless the Blazers combine #11 with Ayton to get a star player the other team wanted to dump, Im not sure it moves the needle.

Now then - if a 2nd apron team wants to jettison a STAR player, and is hoping for a cost controlled rookie and cap relief (NOT names Zion), I'm all for it.

[DusterBuster]

They aren't "stacked" but they have young prospects at every position. I've said this before, but the lesson here is Sebastian Telfair. Just don't pass on Deron Williams because you think Martell Webster fits a need.

I very much agree with the point you’re making, but there’s a vast differences in trading down from the #3 to #6 to take Martell Webster and passing on Deron Williams AND Chris Paul cause you were “set” at PG and what the Blazers current situation is at #11.

With that #3 pick year, there was a clear Top 4 talent in that draft, once you got to 6, it was more of a pickup who-do-you-like-best kind of draft. That’s what the Blazers #11 pick is like. This draft falls off talent wise after the top 6. 7-15 is just kind of whatever you think fits.

So I’m fine moving this years pick and not worried about the Deron/Paul type of situation here.

Acknowledge we are talking about two different scenarios here, valid point. But, BPA is still applicable.

Shifting to the more realistic example, how many star players were picked at 11 in recent history? Unless the Blazers combine #11 with Ayton to get a star player the other team wanted to dump, Im not sure it moves the needle.

Now then - if a 2nd apron team wants to jettison a STAR player, and is hoping for a cost controlled rookie and cap relief (NOT names Zion), I'm all for it.

Also still agree with you. If the Blazers are keeping 11, take BPA and don’t look back (even if BPA is in the eye of the beholder at that pick range). The Kings made the right move in taking Haliburton even tho they already had Fox (they subsequently **** the bed hardest anyone ever has in history, but still was the right move).

So yes, take whoever is BPA, but also be open to trades that bring back proven NBA talent as opposed to prospective NBA talent that is the NBA draft. I just genuinely don’t know who that might be, and agreed hard pass on Zion at this point after his summer of headlines.

[oldfishermen]

This trade will not happen. But for conversation.

#11 traded to Denver for Christian Braun. A solid two way SG. Denver does not have a pick in this draft.

[DusterBuster]

Does anyone have the quotes from Fischer and/or Marang where they discussed Portland trading the 11?

[DusterBuster]

This trade will not happen. But for conversation.

#11 traded to Denver for Christian Braun. A solid two way SG. Denver does not have a pick in this draft.

Denver would probably never do it, but Grant would actually be a great fit with them. I could see his stats going back to normal levels when playing alongside Jokic.

[cucad8]

I like the idea of trying to move 11 in a Deni style move. The targets are a little tougher to pinpoint.
I like the idea of Jabari Smith. Maybe Houston uses 10 AND 11 to outbid for Durant, or whoever. I don't like his looming contract extension, but think he would be a great fit as a backup 4/5, and maybe a starter, with Deni and Tou sliding down to the 2/3 in some lineups. Tari Eason as well, as more 4/3 backup. Same situation, if pick is worth more to team 3 than Eason.
Keegan Murray if Sacramento was also looking at some bigger deal, where a late lotto pick greased the wheels better than him. Again, extension incoming, but have liked him.
Just a few names. I'd also be fine looking to package it in a bigger deal including one of Scoot or Sharpe. I really like our 3/4/5 in Tou, Deni, Clingan. I'm ok with 1/2, but if a big upgrade were available, I'm all for moving on.

[Dame Lizard]

This trade will not happen. But for conversation.

#11 traded to Denver for Christian Braun. A solid two way SG. Denver does not have a pick in this draft.

I would pass very easily on this. For a contending team, is Braun worth #11. Probably yes, value wise.

However we don't need pieces to contend. We need potential stars to build upon. We need to hope that our #11 turns into a Jalen Williams/Paul George/Giannis/Devin Booker style diamond in the rough.

The chances of this are probably 5-10% but we need to roll the dice anyway.

[DusterBuster]

I like the idea of trying to move 11 in a Deni style move. The targets are a little tougher to pinpoint.
I like the idea of Jabari Smith. Maybe Houston uses 10 AND 11 to outbid for Durant, or whoever. I don't like his looming contract extension, but think he would be a great fit as a backup 4/5, and maybe a starter, with Deni and Tou sliding down to the 2/3 in some lineups. Tari Eason as well, as more 4/3 backup. Same situation, if pick is worth more to team 3 than Eason.
Keegan Murray if Sacramento was also looking at some bigger deal, where a late lotto pick greased the wheels better than him. Again, extension incoming, but have liked him.
Just a few names. I'd also be fine looking to package it in a bigger deal including one of Scoot or Sharpe. I really like our 3/4/5 in Tou, Deni, Clingan. I'm ok with 1/2, but if a big upgrade were available, I'm all for moving on.

Keegan Murray is interesting. Kings seems aimless and most of the players from their successful years have soured and demanded out. Wouldn’t be surprised if Murray did too, plus Portland clearly liked Murray enough to take a swing on his brother. Maybe they think if his brother is there it could improve the team and Kris?

[tblazrdude]

Lol, the Blazers are not stacked at any position, they don’t have one All-Star on this roster

The list of players that could possibly be acquired for the #11 pick does not look appealing, nor does it push this team any farther than what, a play in, the #8 seed?whooptefreakindo

Cronin and Company must be high on their own supply if they really believe last year’s late season play was a sign that this team is ready to take a big leap. What a joke.

wait where are you hearing that?

[PDXKnight]

There are literally a bunch of young, projectable bigs in this draft.

Assuming Maluach is gone, there still is Noa, Queen, Newell, Sorber, Fleming, Wolf,'
Beringer, who all could be there at 11. All they need to do is draft one of these guys if
they want banger type of PF.

Yeah another big would be nice. Hopefully ayton will be gone at most within 1 season so it'd be nice to lock in some big man depth on rookie deals for the foreseeable future. I suspect someone will pay ayton 20-30 not so sure id even give him 15 if im honest, being a black hole on offense makes us worse and his defensie is meh so I think hes addition by subtraction

Ive always been about bpa if theres a significant talent gap ie Chris Paul vs Martell. But if theres a guard who is a starter or a big/wing who is maybe a slightly less talented starter might make sense to draft based on need if the gap isnt big

[Walton1one]

Lol, the Blazers are not stacked at any position, they don’t have one All-Star on this roster

The list of players that could possibly be acquired for the #11 pick does not look appealing, nor does it push this team any farther than what, a play in, the #8 seed?whooptefreakindo

Cronin and Company must be high on their own supply if they really believe last year’s late season play was a sign that this team is ready to take a big leap. What a joke.

wait where are you hearing that?

Apparently Marang, who is wrong more often than right and Fischer? reported POR could move #11. The thing is I went thru every team trying to identify a player worth that pick & the list is uninspiring.

Braun, I like him as a player, but he is not a foundational piece, also due big money in a year

Jabari Smith? Very underwhelming so far, I’d take a flyer but not for #11, future pick ok

Who else? Patrick Williams? Not worth his current contract

RJ Barrett? would cost more than #11, not worth it

The thing is with #11 you have a chance to hit that lotto ticket, to trade that away for a mid level player whom you know what they already are & does not propel you any farther than playoff fodder is stupid, but, and I hope I am proven wrong, current management seems hell bent on irrelevancy, and I am astonished by the number of Blazer fans that blindly accept that

Cam Johnson? What is the point? To come off the bench behind Deni, Tou & Grant? Does not move the needle

I hate the “we have too many young players” bs, particularly when NONE of them are needle movers to date, if you are OKC or HOU, sure, but acting like POR is even in that same hemisphere is asinine and Cronin & Billups (& Kolde?) literally hinted at that line of reasoning at the EOS press conference, shows you how delusional they are

The more young players you have the more value you have to trade FOR that player, pretty simple concept

Does no one remember when that idiot Olshey did the EXACT SAME THING before? Taking a mirage of successful play for a small period as proof of performance? How did that work out? And that team had Dame, this team has Simons, lol

[Walton1one]

Lol, the Blazers are not stacked at any position, they don’t have one All-Star on this roster

The list of players that could possibly be acquired for the #11 pick does not look appealing, nor does it push this team any farther than what, a play in, the #8 seed?whooptefreakindo

Cronin and Company must be high on their own supply if they really believe last year’s late season play was a sign that this team is ready to take a big leap. What a joke.

They aren't "stacked" but they have young prospects at every position. I've said this before, but the lesson here is Sebastian Telfair. Just don't pass on Deron Williams because you think Martell Webster fits a need.

I very much agree with the point you’re making, but there’s a vast differences in trading down from the #3 to #6 to take Martell Webster and passing on Deron Williams AND Chris Paul cause you were “set” at PG and what the Blazers current situation is at #11.

With that #3 pick year, there was a clear Top 4 talent in that draft, once you got to 6, it was more of a pickup who-do-you-like-best kind of draft. That’s what the Blazers #11 pick is like. This draft falls off talent wise after the top 6. 7-15 is just kind of whatever you think fits.

So I’m fine moving this years pick and not worried about the Deron/Paul type of situation here.

Yeah I disagree with this, are you 100% sure that Tre Johnson or Kon are going to be better pros than Coward, Clifford or Riley?

Is Bailey a lock to be better than Bryant, Essengue or Penda?

I would be skeptical

[Village Idiot]

Onyeka Okungwu tops my list. He's undersized as Atlanta's starting center but he could be fantastic as a PF.

11 and Ayton for Okungwu, Mann and 18

Atlanta trades Okungwu, Mann and 13, 22 for 6 and Ayton. They draft Maluach at 6

Washington trades 6 and 18 for 11,13 and 22