Jail Bird Billups. SHAMS: Chauncey placed immediate leave by the NBA.

[DusterBuster]

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[zzaj]

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While I don't particularly like Billups as a coach, he seems like a good enough dude.

I don't want to get too political here, but I trust ZERO information out of Kash Patel's mouth. Billups may be guilty, he may not be guilty. But I have a complete lack of faith in the FBI with that dung-for-brains running the show.

As an aside, while this situation may not have anything to do with betting on NBA games...the fact that the NBA is trying to cash in on 'legalized' gambling is SUCH a bad move on all levels, IMHO.

[PDXKnight]

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While I don't particularly like Billups as a coach, he seems like a good enough dude.

I don't want to get too political here, but I trust ZERO information out of Kash Patel's mouth. Billups may be guilty, he may not be guilty. But I have a complete lack of faith in the FBI with that dung-for-brains running the show.

As an aside, while this situation may not have anything to do with betting on NBA games...the fact that the NBA is trying to cash in on 'legalized' gambling is SUCH a bad move on all levels, IMHO.

To arrest theyd need some amount of proof of the crimes. Cant just arrest someone without a warrant

[PDXKnight]

We have to cut ties immediately, even if he didnt do it the pr is gonna be bad

[DeBlazerRiddem]

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While I don't particularly like Billups as a coach, he seems like a good enough dude.

I don't want to get too political here, but I trust ZERO information out of Kash Patel's mouth. Billups may be guilty, he may not be guilty. But I have a complete lack of faith in the FBI with that dung-for-brains running the show.

As an aside, while this situation may not have anything to do with betting on NBA games...the fact that the NBA is trying to cash in on 'legalized' gambling is SUCH a bad move on all levels, IMHO.

Agreed on all points. In my relatively short time on earth I have seen the FBI do some really questionable things where they appear to entrap and build flimsy cases, and I also agree they are currently being led by one of the stupidest, least experienced and personally motivated individuals.

That said, this isn't a very complex scheme. I don't really agree with the idea of a poker night being illegal, why can't adults gamble away their money if they want and buyer beware, but this won't be rocket science to prove and prosecute.

[Brandon-Clyde]

We have to cut ties immediately, even if he didnt do it the pr is gonna be bad

Suspension at the very least until more information comes out.

[oldfishermen]

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While I don't particularly like Billups as a coach, he seems like a good enough dude.

I don't want to get too political here, but I trust ZERO information out of Kash Patel's mouth. Billups may be guilty, he may not be guilty. But I have a complete lack of faith in the FBI with that dung-for-brains running the show.

As an aside, while this situation may not have anything to do with betting on NBA games...the fact that the NBA is trying to cash in on 'legalized' gambling is SUCH a bad move on all levels, IMHO.

Agreed on all points. In my relatively short time on earth I have seen the FBI do some really questionable things where they appear to entrap and build flimsy cases, and I also agree they are currently being led by one of the stupidest, least experienced and personally motivated individuals.

That said, this isn't a very complex scheme. I don't really agree with the idea of a poker night being illegal, why can't adults gamble away their money if they want and buyer beware, but this won't be rocket science to prove and prosecute.

The charges are the poker games were fixed. The presser gave details on how they were fixed.

Also, Blazers mentioned as a team that fixed games, but no name given. Billups was named in the fixing poker games charges.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

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While I don't particularly like Billups as a coach, he seems like a good enough dude.

I don't want to get too political here, but I trust ZERO information out of Kash Patel's mouth. Billups may be guilty, he may not be guilty. But I have a complete lack of faith in the FBI with that dung-for-brains running the show.

As an aside, while this situation may not have anything to do with betting on NBA games...the fact that the NBA is trying to cash in on 'legalized' gambling is SUCH a bad move on all levels, IMHO.

Agreed on all points. In my relatively short time on earth I have seen the FBI do some really questionable things where they appear to entrap and build flimsy cases, and I also agree they are currently being led by one of the stupidest, least experienced and personally motivated individuals.

That said, this isn't a very complex scheme. I don't really agree with the idea of a poker night being illegal, why can't adults gamble away their money if they want and buyer beware, but this won't be rocket science to prove and prosecute.

The charges are the poker games were fixed. The presser gave details on how they were fixed.

Also, Blazers mentioned as a team that fixed games, but no name given. Billups was named in the fixing poker games charges.

Mentioned on Wizards board...

This guy called it. Though Chauncey up for running rigged poker games and not betting on games at this point.

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While I don't particularly like Billups as a coach, he seems like a good enough dude.

I don't want to get too political here, but I trust ZERO information out of Kash Patel's mouth. Billups may be guilty, he may not be guilty. But I have a complete lack of faith in the FBI with that dung-for-brains running the show.

As an aside, while this situation may not have anything to do with betting on NBA games...the fact that the NBA is trying to cash in on 'legalized' gambling is SUCH a bad move on all levels, IMHO.

Agreed on all points. In my relatively short time on earth I have seen the FBI do some really questionable things where they appear to entrap and build flimsy cases, and I also agree they are currently being led by one of the stupidest, least experienced and personally motivated individuals.

That said, this isn't a very complex scheme. I don't really agree with the idea of a poker night being illegal, why can't adults gamble away their money if they want and buyer beware, but this won't be rocket science to prove and prosecute.

This isn't even the case of a high-stakes VIP poker game. They had x-ray tech used to see players cards and lured players in to go up against a whole crew that was in on it. That seems pretty brazen. I'm under the impression to that this was something green lit by the Biden admin.

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While I don't particularly like Billups as a coach, he seems like a good enough dude.

I don't want to get too political here, but I trust ZERO information out of Kash Patel's mouth. Billups may be guilty, he may not be guilty. But I have a complete lack of faith in the FBI with that dung-for-brains running the show.

As an aside, while this situation may not have anything to do with betting on NBA games...the fact that the NBA is trying to cash in on 'legalized' gambling is SUCH a bad move on all levels, IMHO.

To arrest theyd need some amount of proof of the crimes. Cant just arrest someone without a warrant

Flatly false, under the current administration.

[DusterBuster]

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While I don't particularly like Billups as a coach, he seems like a good enough dude.

I don't want to get too political here, but I trust ZERO information out of Kash Patel's mouth. Billups may be guilty, he may not be guilty. But I have a complete lack of faith in the FBI with that dung-for-brains running the show.

As an aside, while this situation may not have anything to do with betting on NBA games...the fact that the NBA is trying to cash in on 'legalized' gambling is SUCH a bad move on all levels, IMHO.

Agreed on all points. In my relatively short time on earth I have seen the FBI do some really questionable things where they appear to entrap and build flimsy cases, and I also agree they are currently being led by one of the stupidest, least experienced and personally motivated individuals.

That said, this isn't a very complex scheme. I don't really agree with the idea of a poker night being illegal, why can't adults gamble away their money if they want and buyer beware, but this won't be rocket science to prove and prosecute.

This isn't even the case of a high-stakes VIP poker game. They had x-ray tech used to see players cards and lured players in to go up against a whole crew that was in on it. That seems pretty brazen. I'm under the impression to that this was something green lit by the Biden admin.

Yeah, for everyone (correctly) lighting up Patel's laughable credibility, this investigation - from what I've been able to gather - has been going on since well before Patel entered the picture at the FBI. While Patel gets to be the figurehead here, this was simply something he inherited and had to finish the job started by the last guy in charge.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

This isn't even the case of a high-stakes VIP poker game. They had x-ray tech used to see players cards and lured players in to go up against a whole crew that was in on it. That seems pretty brazen.

Yeah it definitely looks like the games were rigged. Reddit linked this 2 year old thread with these accusations so it's been going on for a long time.

https://np.reddit.com/r/ripcity/comments/13lbu55/chauncey_allegedly_scammed_people_out_of/


Edit: Let's keep national level politics out of this, this has been going on a long time

Matt: There are a lot of stories about it. There's one that cropped up, must've been like 5 years ago, 2019ish I think?

[Effigy]

I'm assuming this means Chauncey will be fired with cause, so we won't have to pay his salary. With Dundon coming in by the end of the season, I'd think he wants to bring his own coach in, and you don't really want to hire a new coach one game into the season. Typically they'll just promote an assistant as interim and ride out the year with him. Then let Dundon hire his coach.

[DusterBuster]

Guess we know why Gilbert Arenas walked out of the FBI courthouse all smiles over the summer following his arrest. He ratted the rest of the peeps involved out.

[DusterBuster]

I'm assuming this means Chauncey will be fired with cause, so we won't have to pay his salary. With Dundon coming in by the end of the season, I'd think he wants to bring his own coach in, and you don't really want to hire a new coach one game into the season. Typically they'll just promote an assistant as interim and ride out the year with him. Then let Dundon hire his coach.

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[Walton1one]

Maybe they might wanna check if there were any large prop bets on Billups calling a team challenge in the first five minutes of the game?

I was clearly in favor of Billups getting fired but could never of imagined for something like this He did, however, make a lot of inept decisions, particularly late in games that we’ve all lamented about, maybe it has nothing to do with what he’s charged with, but is it really that big of a stretch to go from fixing poker games with the mafia to fixing prop bets in NBA games?

What a complete idiot, I don’t see any way that POR could bring him back

I had a friend text me this this morning that he was arrested. I was like what are you joking? unbelievable. could never imagine this.

[zzaj]

Obviously, if Billups had knowledge of, aided and abetted, and profited from, poker games that included all of the alleged tech, against unwitting victims he should have a fair trial against those charges.

As for the, holding players out to 'fix' games or allow others to profit...that's a whole other story. One that I think is just the tip of a very large iceberg in the NBA...as I think think that's been happening since the beginning of the NBA.

The main takeaway personally? This news bums me out.

Even though I don't love Billups as a coach, I am genuinely excited for this season, and was pleasantly surprised by what I saw last night with the Blazers going toe-to-toe with a very good team in the Western Conference. This news just casts a wet blanket on that good feeling, and that's a disappointing thing to feel...after a good lot of years of not being very excited about the direction of the franchise.

[oldfishermen]

What a weird rollercoaster ride the Blazers are taking us on this year.

As the NBA churns.

[Norm2953]

It's clear he will have to step away from the team until this is all resolved but a perfect opportunity for new
ownership to get their own guy in place.

Bjorkgren presumably gets to be the interim HC

[Walton1one]

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