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Trade between black/white teams

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:27 pm
by Charcoal Filtered
JJ for Martell.

Why JJ should play with the starters:

If we are going to make a playoff run, our best players should be getting the most minutes. Until JJ proves that he cannot handle playing 30, we should be taking advantage of the #1 3 point shooter in the league as much as possible. With LA seeming hitting a wall lately, this unit could use a boost.

Why Martell for the second unit:

Except for a few games, he really has not stood out. Playing with the second unit may be the change that he needs for him to progress. Would be interested to see how he responds without Roy on the floor.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:39 pm
by AKBlazerFan
man, for a split second i thought you meant Jack. Haha. I do agree though.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:20 pm
by farzi
I'd agree, but from what I remember hearing over the past few seasons, Martell is fairly weak mentally. Getting benched might further his slump than alleviate it.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:43 pm
by PDXKnight
Haha, I also thought that you meant Jack. I think Nate has to start Martell because Jones has become an essential piece to our bench and as Farzi said, Martell's confidence is a definitely concern and taking him off of the bench may mess up what he has. Starting Jones is a decent idea but I'd personally stick with Martell.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:54 pm
by ph1sh55
it would be nice to make him a feature of the white unit though, running him off screens constantly ala when Roy was out. Don't see how that would hurt his confidence

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:00 am
by BlackMamba
well, first of all the first JJ that came to my mind was jack...


but i was thinking just a minute ago if the blazers needed some kind of new roster movement, some minor tweaking to see if things get better and martell seems to be the odd man out.

he's been in a really long slump and no offense but he seems to have no impact as he should.

i believe that he's in the starting lineup because jones and outlaw represent a better production from the bench, so i say send martell down so he earns his minutes.

but considering his "attitude" issues that were out during summer i don't know how good or bad this would be for him.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:08 am
by cucad8
I think the better swap, right now, would be Frye for LMA. I think LMA would be pretty good running with the second unit, him and Sergio might look good together, whereas Frye seems to fit well with the first unit. Overall, I am fine with where guys are, because ultimately, LMA is our PF, so just let him get his lumps, but I can see a move like that working wonders.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:16 am
by Tim Lehrbach
I think Jones has been the single biggest reason the haphazard offense our bench unit plays has worked this season. Without him, I'm not sure our bench wouldn't suck.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:30 am
by trentsdad
I also thought you meant Jack, which of course meant you were off your meds.......I really don't care about who starts, but I would like to see a mix of the black and white teams, such as........

Sergio with Roy
Brandon, Martell and Jones in at the same time

I think these could help cause a change of pace, the league is getting to know the Blazers and it is getting tougher to get good shots up

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:48 am
by zzaj
Quick mentioned on the radio pregame the other day that James Jones won't be the starter because of his knee. Apparently, he's having to ice it and even take it easy and sometimes miss practices because of it.

Otherwise i'd be all for it.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:21 am
by Fitz303
I wouldn't mind seeing Outlaw move into that position.. I doubt it happens during the season, but I could see it happening for next year

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:31 am
by AKBlazerFan
I love outlaw coming off the bench honestly. I like it when outlaw is the focal point of the offense. I would hate for him to chuck up 20 ft shots with Roy/Aldridge/Webster out there. On the second unit i dont mind, ahah.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:31 am
by AKBlazerFan
I love outlaw coming off the bench honestly. I like it when outlaw is the focal point of the offense. I would hate for him to chuck up 20 ft shots with Roy/Aldridge/Webster out there. On the second unit i dont mind, ahah.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:13 pm
by Fitz303
But hes hitting those shots. Hes playing extremely well and I dont think theres any way that he stays on the bench beyond this season if he continues playing this well, unless Nate really feels that the white unit wont be able to score very well. But with rudy coming in I dont think it will be a problem with Rudy, Jones, Frye, and possibly Jack

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:28 pm
by BlackMamba
should jones' knee be a concern?

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:00 pm
by a_sensei
I like the way Jones fits in with the second unit. He has been getting the minutes, too, lately. The past four games Jones has played 32,30,25,29 while Martell has played 16,18,23,24. I'd like to see them out there together with Brandon running the point more often, especially if neither Jack nor Blake (or Sergio) is having a good game.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:37 am
by Tim Lehrbach
AKBlazerFan wrote:I love outlaw coming off the bench honestly. I like it when outlaw is the focal point of the offense. I would hate for him to chuck up 20 ft shots with Roy/Aldridge/Webster out there. On the second unit i dont mind, ahah.


Seems to me Outlaw has played his best--by far--in the fourth quarter, court time he shares with Roy and Aldridge.