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according to the chicago tribune the blazers offered raef and travis outlaw for pau gasol

It says so in the wiretap. Whoa that is a way better offer than what they got, I wouldnt see much need for us to make this trade though, bringing in a starting caliber pf to play with Aldridge and Oden. It doesnt make too much sense to me.

Anyway im glad this didnt go down, not that I don't like Gasol, we just have bigger needs to fill and giving up Outlaw for him isnt the solution we need.

Sorry, I didnt see there was already a thread on this. Mods can probably lock this one. Cheers

Sense when does the tribune know anything special? I doubt there is any truth to it.

"and the Trail Blazers were believed to be offering Raef LaFrentz and Travis Outlaw."
Believed by who? Not I.

I seriouly doubt it. How does Gasol fit?

Just what we would have needed, another front liner who can't rebound

written by Sam Smith = BS

written by Sam Smith = BS

QFT.

If there's even a shred of truth to this, it's probably that the Grizz came to Portland with this offer and were promptly turned down by Pritchard since Portland has no need for Gasol.

yikes..rooting for gasol=troublesome, can't stand that dude.

Maybe the Blazers were looking for a 3rd team to ship Gasol to for one of their needs...cause I can't see them trying to fit Gasol into the rotation here.

This is interesting if true. It would seem to imply that we aren't convinced LMA is the long term starting answer at PF. Gasol and LMA seem to have very similar games, but there's no question that at least at this point Gasol is the better player.

Either that, or perhaps KP is actually trying to bring in the whole Spanish National team to play around Brandon Roy and Oden

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MAYBE this was proposed because they were concerned LMA wasn't the answer longterm. LMA really needs to step it up on D. Oden definately will help mask some of his early defense deficiencies next year. LMA will get better as he bulks up though.

BUT I believe the more probable reason Portland got involved in discussions was to use Gasol as means to do another trade to garner players that fit more specifically in their future rotation. Also it would of been nice to determine who he went to - instead of the Lakers.

Outlaw for Gasol would be a SIGNIFICANT talent upgrade, you throw position needs out the window when you have the opportunity to make a significant talent upgrade.

The Blazers could then EASILY move Aldridge for a SF who is better than Outlaw or even a PG.

I'm not sure I understand this at all. Which leads me to believe that this isn't a deal Pritchard really wanted to make.

Sure Gasol is an excellent player, but he doesn't add anything to this team that we don't already have. If we don't think LMA is the answer long term why would we get Gasol? He's not a good defender, and he's not a great rebounder... that doesn't really address LMA's problems. Furthermore LMA is still growing and improving his game on a rookie contract. Pau kills our cap plans and doesn't fit the young improving mold in my mind.

You might say, oh ya if you can get Gasol for Outlaw and LaFrentz do it! But realize we could also trade that package for other players OR keep outlaw, let LaFrentz expire and then get a player in summer of 09.

This doesn't make much sense for us.

mojomarc wrote:This is interesting if true. It would seem to imply that we aren't convinced LMA is the long term starting answer at PF. Gasol and LMA seem to have very similar games, but there's no question that at least at this point Gasol is the better player.

Either that, or perhaps KP is actually trying to bring in the whole Spanish National team to play around Brandon Roy and Oden

Not by much though.



LaMarcus Aldridge
Portland Trail Blazers
Position: F-C
Height: 6-11 Weight: 245
College: Texas
Player file | Team stats
2007-08 Statistics
PPG 17.2
RPG 7.4
APG 1.2
SPG 0.6
BPG 1.2
FG% 0.487
FT% 0.759
3P% 0.000
MPG 33.9





Pau Gasol
Los Angeles Lakers
Position: F-C
Height: 7-0 Weight: 260
From: Spain
Player file | Team stats
2007-08 Statistics
PPG 18.9
RPG 8.8
APG 3.0
SPG 0.4
BPG 1.4
FG% 0.501
FT% 0.819
3P% 0.267
MPG 36.7

I could see PDX doing that deal just to have the rotation it gives you at 4-5. It would mean Frye and Pryz would be on the way out before next season. All Gasol/Lma/and Oden could all play 32min a game.

Yadadimean wrote:

mojomarc wrote:This is interesting if true. It would seem to imply that we aren't convinced LMA is the long term starting answer at PF. Gasol and LMA seem to have very similar games, but there's no question that at least at this point Gasol is the better player.

Either that, or perhaps KP is actually trying to bring in the whole Spanish National team to play around Brandon Roy and Oden

Not by much though.



LaMarcus Aldridge
Portland Trail Blazers
Position: F-C
Height: 6-11 Weight: 245
College: Texas
Player file | Team stats
2007-08 Statistics
PPG 17.2
RPG 7.4
APG 1.2
SPG 0.6
BPG 1.2
FG% 0.487
FT% 0.759
3P% 0.000
MPG 33.9





Pau Gasol
Los Angeles Lakers
Position: F-C
Height: 7-0 Weight: 260
From: Spain
Player file | Team stats
2007-08 Statistics
PPG 18.9
RPG 8.8
APG 3.0
SPG 0.4
BPG 1.4
FG% 0.501
FT% 0.819
3P% 0.267
MPG 36.7

So he's bigger, harder to move around, a better shooter, better passer, and has better range? He may not be much better at any one thing, but he's basically better in every category of measurement that you'd look at between the two. That makes him a much better player not a slightly better player, just like Brandon is a much better player than Randy Foye, even though he was only a little better in most major statistical categories than Foye.

hey Toronto Raptors fan here..and I just want to put it out there.

I really don't think you guys need to make a trade THIS season. Your team went to win what 17 games in a row and you need to address the point guard situation??? I wouldn't think so in my opinion. Jjack and Blake saved you guys in my opinion yetserday against the knick and not to forget the outstanding play of Outlaw. I simply can't wait for Oden to play for you guys next season. Anyways, Good luck the rest of the season.