Jarrett Jack Question

[avi623]

Celtics fan here:

I know there were rumors over the summer that he might be on the trading block because he was the odd man out of the point guard rotation. Is this still true?

I don't think we really have anything tradeable to give you, but what it his value like right now?

BTW, hate to be an asskisser, but I love this team you guys are putting together.

[Wizenheimer]

his value will be quite a bit lower in this forum then it is in the blazer front office or around the league.

There is probably at least an even chance he will be traded before next season because of portland likely bringing in Rudy Fernandez next season.

I don't think boston has anybody they'd be willing to trade that portland would be interested in trading jack for.

[waverider]

his value will be quite a bit lower in this forum then it is in the blazer front office or around the league.

There is probably at least an even chance he will be traded before next season because of portland likely bringing in Rudy Fernandez next season.

I don't think boston has anybody they'd be willing to trade that portland would be interested in trading jack for.

Wizen, how about Jack for Big Baby?

[tucson]

Assuming Rudy Fernandez is coming next year as expected, Jack's minutes at shooting guard will be limited. Either he or Sergio will be the odd man out. The general feeling is that Jack will be one out, but Jack does have a few supporters. The coach seems to favor him over Sergio but Pritchard favors Sergio and the fact the Fernandez and him could develop a good chemistry next year is a factor.

That said, Jack's penetration and free throw shooting are important to this team so any trade right now would have to return something similar, although rebounding and toughness is the team's biggest need currently. So Big Baby might be of interest.

I can't imagine he has a lot of trade value right now and is likely to be used as a piece to move up a couple of spots in the draft.

[Butter]

I really think it'd be foolish for the Blazers to make any deals before the off-season. Jack definitely has flaws in his game, but I don't think they would have won that game last night without him. With Roy's fingers banged up, no one else was as effective attacking the rim at the end of the game, (maybe Outlaw).

I still think he should be moved, but not till later.

[mojomarc]

If we're not going to resign Green and McBob, I'd love a Jack for Big Baby trade. Otherwise, I think we need to look to move Jack in a 2-for-one trade to help create room on the roster.

[wfbbuckmej]

I think that if the Celtics and Blazers get together on a trade dedline deal this would be fair...

Jack, Mc Roberts and 2008 2nd rounder curently #50

for

Glen Davis and 2010 1st rounder top 5 protected

Nothing earth shattering, but gives PDX some toughness and a future pick, while the Cetlics increase thier chances of winning now as Jack would really help especially at back up SG in keeping Ray Allen's minutes down in the second half of the season.

[Mr Odd]

With Rudy coming over there really is no place for Jack.
However with Nate being the head coach Jack will most
likely take Rudys mins. Pritchard knows this so I look
for Jack to be traded. Im not sure if it will be before the
deadline or not, Pritchard likes to trade around draft time
but if theres a deal that comes up before then im sure
Jack will be moved. Its a shame Jack isnt what the team
needs. He comes off as a good guy & a great lockerroom
teammate. At times on the court hes awesome, but then
again at times he makes you want to go "WHAT ARE YOU
THINKING!!??", but that will probably go away after a few
more seasons. Ultimately Jack will be moved not because
hes a bad player, but because hes not a consistent scorer
and he has it in his head that his a PG when hes really a SG.

[Billy]

With Rudy coming over there really is no place for Jack.
However with Nate being the head coach Jack will most
likely take Rudys mins. Pritchard knows this so I look
for Jack to be traded. Im not sure if it will be before the
deadline or not, Pritchard likes to trade around draft time
but if theres a deal that comes up before then im sure
Jack will be moved. Its a shame Jack isnt what the team
needs. He comes off as a good guy & a great lockerroom
teammate. At times on the court hes awesome, but then
again at times he makes you want to go "WHAT ARE YOU
THINKING!!??", but that will probably go away after a few
more seasons. Ultimately Jack will be moved not because
hes a bad player, but because hes not a consistent scorer
and he has it in his head that his a PG when hes really a SG.

Wow. I know that you and I differ on our POV's of McMillan (I love you anyway Mr. Odd ! ). But where exactly do you get this feeling that Nate would purposely play someone over somebody else for no other reason than to simply do it? I know a lot of people point to Sergio not getting minutes as to why McMillan has all of these flaws, but I'm just not entirely seeing it.

To me, if Rudy shows he's better than Jack (or whoever) he'll play.

[Dutchv]

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But where exactly do you get this feeling that Nate would purposely play someone over somebody else for no other reason than to simply do it?

Two words... er names... JOEL PRYZBILLA.

How do you explain his lack of playing time? Especially when common sense says we NEED a shot blocker in the game.

Nate McMillian needs to be fired. His coaching decisions have lost us more games than won for us. =/

[Charlie78]

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Nate McMillian needs to be fired. His coaching decisions have lost us more games than won for us. =/

Do you actually beleive that?

I agree that nate has some flaws but come on. Up until a couple of weeks ago his coaching and rotation was working perfectly. Then yes he was slow to adjust, but every time previously the team had come through. Recently we have seen more joel, and his lineup last night in the fourth saved the game. Mcmillen has a long way to go but he is perfect for this team right now despite his flaws.

[jeffhardyfan52]

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Nate McMillian needs to be fired. His coaching decisions have lost us more games than won for us. =/

[b_roy7]

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Two words... er names... JOEL PRYZBILLA.

How do you explain his lack of playing time? Especially when common sense says we NEED a shot blocker in the game.

Nate McMillian needs to be fired. His coaching decisions have lost us more games than won for us. =/

You can't say that. We're without Oden this year and we're exceeding expectations like hell. Though some decisions may be questioned, he's been great this year; remember, the game we lost ending the 13 game winning streak wasn't coached by Nate.

[imahustla]

As a Cavs fan living in Portland, I want to know what it would take for the Cavs to get Jack. We have been trying to land a point guard for a while now, and the answers always come up to be Eric Snow, Damon Jones, or using Larry Hughes as a point guard. But I'd love for us to get Jarrett Jack...he was the guy I was high on in the '05 draft and was disappointed that we didn't have a first-rounder that year.

It looks like you guys are looking to clear roster spaces while maintaining cap flexibility. How about Donyell Marshall (expiring in '09, cheaper LaFrentz), Ira Newble (expiring), Devin Brown (expiring, can take Jack's place in the rotation while just keeping the spot warm), and Dwayne Jones (expiring) for Raef LaFrentz and Jack? You guys get three expiring deals, a serviceable guard in Brown who is a veteran, and a shooting big man in Marshall who, like Raef, is up in '09? Would you as fans support that from your viewpoint?

[Wizenheimer]

As a Cavs fan living in Portland, I want to know what it would take for the Cavs to get Jack. We have been trying to land a point guard for a while now, and the answers always come up to be Eric Snow, Damon Jones, or using Larry Hughes as a point guard. But I'd love for us to get Jarrett Jack...he was the guy I was high on in the '05 draft and was disappointed that we didn't have a first-rounder that year.

It looks like you guys are looking to clear roster spaces while maintaining cap flexibility. How about Donyell Marshall (expiring in '09, cheaper LaFrentz), Ira Newble (expiring), Devin Brown (expiring, can take Jack's place in the rotation while just keeping the spot warm), and Dwayne Jones (expiring) for Raef LaFrentz and Jack? You guys get three expiring deals, a serviceable guard in Brown who is a veteran, and a shooting big man in Marshall who, like Raef, is up in '09? Would you as fans support that from your viewpoint?

I seriously doubt portland consider that.

For one thing, Portland's roster is full already, so a 2 for 4 trade makes little sense unless the blazers are getting back some quality in one of the players...they don't in this case. They'd have to immediately waive a couple of players.

A second thing is the low value portland gets for lafrentz compared to the outside chance his expiring contract this summer could bring in more. Yes, they get some salary savings, but I don't think that's the primary focus of the blazer FO or Paul Allen.

The only way a trade with cleveland getting jack might tempt portland is if either the blazers get back Gibson or AV or the cavs take on Miles. Other then that, I don't think so.

[SinceClyde]

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+1

[Spykes]

As a Cavs fan living in Portland, I want to know what it would take for the Cavs to get Jack. We have been trying to land a point guard for a while now, and the answers always come up to be Eric Snow, Damon Jones, or using Larry Hughes as a point guard. But I'd love for us to get Jarrett Jack...he was the guy I was high on in the '05 draft and was disappointed that we didn't have a first-rounder that year.

Quite simply, a miracle.

Seriously though, Wiz said it best. The only way the Cavs are going to get Jack is if Gibson or Verajao are coming our way or that the Cavs take on Miles' contract and send Portland back someone who expires before 09.

[Goldbum]

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Quite simply, a miracle.

Seriously though, Wiz said it best. The only way the Cavs are going to get Jack is if Gibson or Verajao are coming our way or that the Cavs take on Miles' contract and send Portland back someone who expires before 09.

Exactly. I mean seriously I'm creeped out right now it's like you read my mind.