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Canzano's Friday column, before anyone in the Pacific time zone wakes up and reads it in the paper.

Love the brief cameo from Dennis Dixon. (Not that I endorse it, but hey, he is out of school.)

Canzano's words of wisdom.

I do kinda hate to start another Miles thread so close to MMG's one, but if I could insist I'd love for this to remain up.

Wow. Thx PNF that was brutally honest article and very timely as well. However, I doubt that Miles will really get the message and do anything, hope I am wrong.

Thanks PNF, Thats the information I was looking for. Pretty much explains it all, how sad.

I don't mean to sound like the "I told you so" guy, but it amazes me that so many people around here actually expected Miles to come back and be effective on the court and reformed off the court. The two things are linked and Miles is just a loser and nothing more. That's all he'll ever be. If he doesn't retire by the draft he should be cut/bought out.

Hmm. If something is so wrong with strip clubs why was canzano there?

Yadadimean wrote:Hmm. If something is so wrong with strip clubs why was canzano there?

He never said anything was wrong with stripclubs.

Canzano talked about the club to show that it is the only part of basketball culture that Miles likes. The lifestyle is the only thing that interests him.

ah! i just woke up dammit! cut me a little slack here buddy. havent even had my coffee yet

Sorry

lol its not that serious buddy!

I don't expect Miles to come back either, but this is a Canzano story. He is not a beat writer, but a sports columnist so as per usual the story is short on facts and long on opinion.

In my opinion, nothing has really changed, Miles won't retire (he no reason to) and he won't ever be in a position to play for the Blazers again.

On a side note, it does seem like Canzano is slipping. I had to read in a NY paper about how a fight broke at the Greek Taverna when the Knicks where in town and several patrons pointed to Zach as being involved. Of course, I could have missed local coverage of this story, as I was out of town at the time.

If it wasn't a Canzano article then I'd probably give it more weight. It does give you a double take if it's true. But I wouldn't mind if Canzano would retire too...

Ya I wanna know how he came across the strip club story. Was he already there? Or did he tail him or something?

Maybe he was there with his entourage

My good friend from college is from Portland and lives there now after college and has on multiple occaisions seen Darius Miles at strip clubs as recently as 4-5 months ago. Mrs. Miles is so happy. I just never really said on here because it is kind've hearsay..

swede wrote:My good friend from college is from Portland and lives there now after college and has on multiple occaisions seen Darius Miles at strip clubs as recently as 4-5 months ago. Mrs. Miles is so happy. I just never really said on here because it is kind've hearsay..

C'mon, without hearsay 99% of NBA journalists wouldn't have anything to write about.

I'm trying to figure out why this article has had me so pissed off for the last 2 hours...at first I thought it was just because it reeks "Canzano".

Then I realized that at 26(?) and with a wife and child at home Miles is not only still spending time at strip clubs but also wasting money he never really deserved in the first place. Sorry ladies, paying your way through "school" is not a good use of that money. I am not trying to sound "holier than thou", I've spent my share of time doing the strip club thing...when I first turned 21. By 22 I was over it.


Darius IMHO is the poster child for everything that is wrong with the NBA.

Im a a$s.. .so im glad to say "I told you so".


No, going to a stripclub isnt horrible. But it
shows you he hasnt changed and he still
doesnt get it, in my opinion he will
never get it. Miles is the last link
to the morons. I cant wait 'til hes gone.

He's become emblematic of wasted youth and frittered-away talent. A couple of years ago, before his surgery, I asked Miles if he retired then, if he might have regrets about not making more of his potential as a professional basketball player. He was confused by the question. He couldn't even grasp the concept. He just shook his head and said he was fine with his career achievements.

This is a player who was heralded as a perennial future All-Star when he arrived in the league. A guy who once could play any position on the court if he wanted. A player with such natural gifts and talent that he could make you believe in him by running the court once, in transition.

All that's gone now.

What's left is a guy with a bad knee running the stage at a gentlemen's club.

This portion of the article says everything you need to know about the person writing it. Canzano thinks Miles is clueless but it's clear who is clueless.

First, Miles was a speculative 3rd pick in a weak draft. If Miles's talent was as great as Canzano says, Miles would've been the 1st pick and scouts would have compared him to other prior great 1st picks. The fact is scouts said that draft was horribly weak and 2 other players taken ahead of Miles were not considered worthy of their draft position when compared to other drafts.

While Miles's talent is over stated by many he was very talented. He was talented and probably didn't have to work as hard as others to succeed in sports did. However, anyone that makes it in the NBA is not a slacker and works harder than 99% of the population could even imagine, especially an incompetent slouch like Canzano. I know Miles is well paid but nobody should have to endure condescending questions from a loser like Canzano.

It may be true that Miles's potential will be unfulfilled, but if his career is over now as Canzano believes, what is the reason? A disabling injury, how is that something Miles should be ashamed of? The fact is Miles has had an amazing and successful career for such a young man. If his career is over, it is true he showed promise that was unfulfilled. That promise was based on production and not unfulfilled potential. His productive play was for a short period because of a serious injury.

IMO, Canzano has never done his job well. His lack of talent is obvious so it's not fair to expect a lot. Still, he could do better by having a little humility and consideration for other people who like him are less than perfect.

You know D-Train, I think you put down what I was trying to put my finger on. Canzano's tone does imply that somehow it was Miles fault for getting injured and having a slow recovery. While it's possible Miles could & probably has some fault in his slow recovery ~ I don't think it's fair to put it all on him. Canzano even mentioned how slow Miles is doing the basic fitness test. Well duh, if you have a boot on your foot you're not going to go very fast. Also I'd like to see Canzano step up and do the basic fitness test and see how well he does and then see if he could improve his time. I bet he'd do horrible at first, but if he kept at it he could probably get it to a respectable time. Someone who is athletic can get back into condition in a small amount of time - a matter of a few months. Just because he's having a sluggish time now doesn't mean by next season he'll be in the same position.

While we're at it, just what is a "slow recovery" from microfracture surgery? It's well known it's not a miracle cure and for some people it could take years before they regain their previous form - if ever.

One night at a strip club(maybe multiple nights) acting foolish & hearsay from "sources" doesn't meant Canzano has the inside scoop on what Miles is thinking or doing. He's not actually there 24/7.

d-train wrote:However, anyone that makes it in the NBA is not a slacker and works harder than 99% of the population could even imagine, especially an incompetent slouch like Canzano.

While I have no love for Canzano, I don't think that Darius worked harder than 99% of the population to get where he is today. I don't think he worked harder than 10% of the population to get where he is today. As a matter of fact I think the concept that NBA players work harder than most of us to get where they are at is a myth. The truth is that 99% of them have the physical tools to succeed in a profession that is vastly overpaid.

What would Darius be doing if like most male americans he was 5'10" and 190?

Let Darius work 12 hour days doing construction or an 8 hour shift at Walgreen's for minimum wage instead of getting paid 120,00 dollars a minute to work out...before you say he works hard.

zzaj wrote:While I have no love for Canzano, I don't think that Darius worked harder than 99% of the population to get where he is today. I don't think he worked harder than 10% of the population to get where he is today. As a matter of fact I think the concept that NBA players work harder than most of us to get where they are at is a myth. The truth is that 99% of them have the physical tools to succeed in a profession that is vastly overpaid.

What would Darius be doing if like most male americans he was 5'10" and 190?

Let Darius work 12 hour days doing construction or an 8 hour shift at Walgreen's for minimum wage instead of getting paid 120,00 dollars a minute to work out...before you say he works hard.

I have worked long days doing hard labor but have never done anything harder than get through a hard high school football practice. And, I'm sure any professional athlete has made a career of making anything I ever did look like a picnic.

If Darius weren