POR-MEM: another conditional draft day move

[Telfaire]

As been suggested before, let's assume Memphis lands the 5-6 pick, where Gordon will be available...and we end up with the 13th pick or better. Then how about our pick, Frye and Webster for Cardinal and the rights to Gordon?

Why for Memphis - it appears that Beasly is the guy they are targeting, if they miss out on him, they might be inclined to move the pick along with Cardinal's contract, and add some young depth. Webster could inherit Miller's role, since they'll might move him as well for cap space. Frye gives them a PF/C, and with the 13th pick they could draft a bigman like Hibbert/Speights/Randolph/Thabeet

We get our guy in Gordon, at the cost of Webster and Frye. I dont like trading Webster so early in his career, but we might be better off with Jones as our starting SF. Frye would be pretty redundant next year IMO and we should trade his stock right now. With our highest 2nd round pick, we'll take a PF who'll complement LMA better, like Hendrix or Dorsey.
Cardinal's contract kinda ruin our cap space plan (or not? I'm not an expert), but I think that move could make our lineup set, so we might just make some tweak or move Raef's contract with Sergio and our 2009 1st round pick, if a good opportunity comes along.

2nd trade - Jack and maybe our lowest 2nd round pick for a future 1st round pick.

Blake/Sergio
Roy/Gordon
Jones/Outlaw
LMA/2nd round pick
Oden/Przybilla

Add Raef, Cardinal, Miles, McBob, and a combo guard like Devin Brown on a 1-year contract, for extra dpeth. Rudy is a possibilty if Miles retires, but maybe it would be better to develop Gordon and Sergio first, and when Gordon will win a starting spot and Blake would either be gone or take Sergio's spot as backup PG, Rudy can come over as a new 6th man.

9-man rotation: Blake-Roy-Jones-LMA-Oden, Sergio-Gordon-Outlaw-Henxdrix/Dorsey

With Devin Brown, Przy and Cardinal for emergencies. Cardinal is overpayed, but he's a good hustle player with a 3-point range.

And the possibility of packaging Raef, Sergio, our 2009 1st rounder and the one recieved for Jack, from summertime to next year's deadline, for one last missing piece - though I'm not sure how much of a missing piece we'll have with a Roy-Gordon-Jones-LMA-Oden lineup...

[Andre 2999]

I would gladly do either of those trades! Having Eric Gordon next to Roy would be amazing!

[PDXKnight]

I definitely like these deals. Where do I sign?

[Spykes]

Memphis is a pretty realistic team for us to target if we want to move up in this draft. Assuming they stay around that 5-8 area and don't get lucky like we did, they'll likely look to move down or move out of the draft because it's so PG heavy.

They could be making a big mistake like we did when we traded down because we thought we were set at PG, but I've got no problem with taking advantage of another teams stupidity.

[Mr Odd]

If the Blazers can move up & get #5 or higher then use it!!
If the Blazers cant get that high then I would try and trade
up then trade that pick & filler to try & get a proven talent.

[Telfaire]

So who knows, maybe this lottery, the Blazers' luck would manifest itself in the form of Memphis landing a pick out of the top 3/5. We should send Roy again!

[Mr Odd]

That was one of the best highs ive had when
the Blazers landed the #1 pick. I was floating.
Sh$t like that just dont happen for Blazer fans.

[BlackMamba]

i have no idea what kind of player gordon is, could someone recap on his carreer, his goods, his bads? thanks...

[GrizzledGrizzFan]

If the Grizz have the 5th - 7th pick I see them taking and keeping Gordon. However, the worst pick that I see the Grizz getting at this point is the 4th (again), due to having the worst record. I see there being a good chance of Seattle, Miami and Minnesota all winning more games than our craptastic current lineup.

My question is, and this is just after reading this thread and thinking out loud, if the Grizz end up with the #2 pick and take Rose (due to Beasley already being selected) would there be any desire for a deal involving Conley and Aldridge?

[Telfaire]

If the Grizz have the 5th - 7th pick I see them taking and keeping Gordon. However, the worst pick that I see the Grizz getting at this point is the 4th (again), due to having the worst record. I see there being a good chance of Seattle, Miami and Minnesota all winning more games than our craptastic current lineup.

My question is, and this is just after reading this thread and thinking out loud, if the Grizz end up with the #2 pick and take Rose (due to Beasley already being selected) would there be any desire for a deal involving Conley and Aldridge?

I dont understand the logic of keeping the 5-7 pick but declaring the 4th pick as worst case scenario...
And while Gordon would form a good tandem with Crittenton, him and Conley would make up for a very small backcourt. I just dont think he's a good fit for Memphis, why not dump Cardinal, get a talented swingman in Webster (could form a big backcourt with Javaris), and a decent bigman in Frye, at the cost of moving down 6-8 spots, and still drafting a young bigman who might turn out better than the players drafted ahead of him?

As for your question, no and no.

[Mr Odd]

i have no idea what kind of player gordon is, could someone recap on his carreer, his goods, his bads? thanks...

Hes a 6'4 SG that has strength & is fast, crazy
shooting.. .can hit shots beyond the NBA 3.. .
He can throw it down on people when needed.
Gordons ball handling isnt to bad.. .his passing
isnt that bad either but I wouldnt ask him to make
any tough passes. His defense is about avg but hes
pretty good at steals. Gordons not afraid of getting
hit & is great at drawing fouls. Hes a clutch player too.

I would cry like a little girl if Pritchard could get him
without trading away Roy, LMA, Outlaw and Oden.. .

[Spykes]

My question is, and this is just after reading this thread and thinking out loud, if the Grizz end up with the #2 pick and take Rose (due to Beasley already being selected) would there be any desire for a deal involving Conley and Aldridge?

Not a chance.

[ebott]

Not a chance.

I don't know about that. I'd say there's a 1% chance.

It's entirely possible (1% possible to be exact) that Memphis does make a Conley for Aldridge based offer and some how Greg Oden hears about it and some how is feeling so home sick and sad that he demands Pritchard do the deal and Pritchard, recognizing that it's probably a good move to do what he can to keep his best player happy, does the deal.

But I don't think Greg would do that. He's just not that kind of guy.

So that's why there's a 1% chance. That's probably too high. Maybe a .01% chance is more realistic.

[NBAMAN2006]

It would be moronic to deal Aldridge for Conley. Not only he he already proved he can play at a high level in this league(17ppg, 7rpg), but you never trade a really talented young big for a really talented young small(Who has also proved less).

If Memphis is in a position to draft Rose at #2, they will be in a unfortunate circumstance. If they want to take Rose and deal Conley, teams will be able to lowball to a extent knowing Conley doesnt fit their future plans. If they take Rose and keep Conley, they will be investing a top 10 pick on two PG's in two years and one will likley be pissed off within a few seasons. If they pass on Rose, they are just insane because the talent dropoff after Beasley and Rose is quite substantial.

All in all, Memphis should hope for #1.

[Norm2953]

There's already a thread about rebounding weaknesses on
the team and there's talk about trading Aldridge for Conley???

In any thoughts about acquiring another PG, I think we need to
think about what type of PG do we want with Greg Oden as our
center. I'd like to see the team (after they are eliminated from
the playoffs) give Sergio a chance as a starter and rest Roy.
We've got to know if Sergio has a future as a starter for this
team.

[Spykes]

There's already a thread about rebounding weaknesses on
the team and there's talk about trading Aldridge for Conley???

To be fair, all that talk was coming from a Grizzlies fan, not from anyone here. Every single poster who has even the most base knowledge of the Blazers knows that moving Aldridge for Conley is beyond awful.

[SalemStoner]

I'm probably in the minority(ok definately in the minority) - but I'd counter that offer with LMA for Rose. LMA is definately more valuable than Conley, given how much LMA has proven and Conley's size and obvious holes in his game(LMA is a better shooter than him). However I think LMA and Rose are fairly even value wise - and Portland has 2 other decent PFs(Outlaw + Frye) - or can try to draft one with their pick after this move. I also feel like our hole at PF would be easier to remedy than our hole at PG is proving to be.

[Milkdud]

Outside of Beasley there isnt anyone in this draft I would trade for LA. It would be so foolish to trade a young PF who is giving us 17-8 in his 2nd season for an unknown. Not to mention that such a trade mearly take a weakness at PG (where we honestly have 2 backup PGs) and relocates the weakness to PF where we'd be looking at having a Frye or Outlaw as a starter?

That is just horrible

[SoHo]

I hadn't really thought about Memphis as a draft day trade partner, but it does make some sense. I just don't see them dropping nearly ten spots unless we give them something really significant or move up a couple spots and then trade with them.

Trading straight up for them means losing out on someone like Brook Lopez and instead taking a Hasheem Thabeet or Darrell Arthur, which is perhaps something they would be willing to do. I think it's a pretty big difference, but the more I think about their situation as a team, the more I think there is some potential.

[Telfaire]

Maybe we could use Jack and some 2nd rounders to trade up a little, then switch picks with Memphis in addition to trading Webster and Frye for Cardinal.