Clippers willing to trade their '08 1st round pick

Discovery69 · Post #1 » by **Discovery69** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 12:22 am

I thought it was interesting to read that the Mike Dunleavy and Donald Sterling aren't interested in building their team through the '08 draft if it isn't a top 3 pick. Sterling doesn't want to wait and he knows that Maggette, Brand and Kaman can't wait for a rookie to come up to speed next year.

Dunleavy is interested in acquiring young veterans than a rookie as he would rather not worry about breaking in a rookie while they concentrate on a playoff run next season.

Yeah, I know it is still way too early to talk about the draft, but hey why not.

LA Clippers need help at PG and PF.

Jarrett Jack, Channing Frye & two 2nd round picks to LA Clippers
Shaun Livingston & #6 pick to Portland

Pritchard has said in an interview last year that he thought Shaun was going to be a star in the league before his injury. You have to wonder if Pritchard will be willing to give Livingston that final year of his contract a try.

Post #2 » by **Spykes** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 12:27 am

I'd love to see a deal like this go down, but I can't imagine the Clippers accepting/offering that specific deal. However, the Clippers will definitely be a good team to target for a higher pick if they don't get lucky in the draft this year.

Fitz303 · Post #3 » by **Fitz303** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 12:29 am

I dont think they need a PF more than they need a swing man to put next to magette. Brand/Thornton are the bigmen at PF (although I guess Thornton can play SF as well. Either way, if we could somehow get the clips pick that would be awesome, assuming they stay at the 6th pick. If we dont have to give up our pick for it and we can get use both of them to move up and get Rose or Gordon I would go absolutely ape ****.. Not to mention im a big Livingston fan, and that would be icing on the cake if he came back healthy

Post #4 » by **Mr Odd** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 12:40 am

I dont see anyone that the Blazers
would offer up that would make
the Clippers trade with them.

NBAMAN2006 · Post #5 » by **NBAMAN2006** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 12:44 am

There is absolutley no reason for the Clippers to do that deal.

I would offer something like Webster, Jack, Frye, #13 for Shaun Livingston and #6.

Post #6 » by **Mr Odd** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 12:53 am

NBAMAN2006 wrote:There is absolutley no reason for the Clippers to do that deal.

I would offer something like Webster, Jack, Frye, #13 for Shaun Livingston and #6.

Hmm.. .Im not even sure that would do it.. .
Altho that deal would probably make them think about it.

Telfaire · Post #7 » by **Telfaire** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 1:03 am

The question is, who aside from Beasley and Rose, the Clippers consider to be a top 3 pick...if Bayless is not their man, then I'd trade Frye, Jack and our own late lottery pick for the rights for Bayless, plus Thomas to make the salaries match...

NBAMAN2006 · Post #8 » by **NBAMAN2006** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 1:37 am

Thomas would actually be a nice fit at SF. He is far from ideal, but he is a lightsout long ranged bomber.

Yadadimean · Post #9 » by **Yadadimean** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 2:08 am

if it were possible to get #6 and then turn around and package #6 with something to get into Rose range I'd do it, but who would trade Rose if they picked him?

Post #10 » by **Spykes** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 2:14 am

Yadadimean wrote:if it were possible to get #6 and then turn around and package #6 with something to get into Rose range I'd do it, but who would trade Rose if they picked him?

If we had the #6 and were somehow able to keep our #13, the only team I can imagine we might be able to pull Rose from is Memphis. They've already invested so much into Conley and they still have Lowry there who's been impressive for them. Spending another high lotto pick on another PG might not be what they want to do, especially with some bigger holes to fill on that roster.

Basically, I'm just hoping that Memphis will be as stupid as the Blazers were when John Nash traded down from 3 to 6 in 2005 because he thought we were set at PG.

Discovery69 · Post #11 » by **Discovery69** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 2:19 am

So here is some irony, if the Blazers were to get the #6 pick.

They would trade Martell Webster & #6 to get the #3

and draft a PG like Bayless.

Post #12 » by **Manhattan Project** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 2:30 am

The Clippers like the Blazers want that combo guard to go with their back court player already. See Brandon Roy and Shaun Livingston. Thus there is not a deal that would net Livingston and the pick. As far as trading down that to me seems foolish. They can use either OJ Mayo, Eric Gordon or Jerryd Bayless. Jarrett Jack is next to useless, Channing Frye is not what they need nor is Webster with the rookie Thornton. At the end of the day the Clippers seem like a nice partner though the pieces dont add up.

riehldeal · Post #13 » by **riehldeal** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 2:31 am

Am I the only one who thinks that Bayless would be a horrible fit with this team, in particular alongside B Roy

Bayless needs the ball in his hands and for many dribbles (ala Mighty Mouse).....I don't see that working with Roy

pr0nny · Post #14 » by **pr0nny** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 2:34 am

LA laughs us off the phone

Butter · Post #15 » by **Butter** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:39 am

Lately I've been thinking that Maggette might be an interesting addition to the Blazers. IMHO, its obvious that the Blazers need someone to attack the rim, and thats the one thing that Maggette seems to excel at. Plus, he might alleviate some of the scoring pressure late in the game from our young players.

If the Clippers don't like a package of young Blazer veterans, maybe they could work out some kind of a three way.

Norm2953 · Post #16 » by **Norm2953** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 4:54 am

In my mind, what we need is a sharpshooter to play alongside
of Roy. The best fit in this draft might be OJ Mayo if you
consider KP talking about an attacker. From where we are
drafting, we would be lucky to get Westbrook who probably
will be a solid fourth guard and our best perimeter defender.

I think if we are serious about getting the Clippers pick, we'd
have to offer Outlaw to move from 13 to 6 but if we can't move
up, we might be better off picking a SF like Batum, especially
if we lose James Jones.

Butter · Post #17 » by **Butter** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 5:11 am

Norm2953 wrote:In my mind, what we need is a sharpshooter to play alongside
of Roy. The best fit in this draft might be OJ Mayo if you
consider KP talking about an attacker. From where we are
drafting, we would be lucky to get Westbrook who probably
will be a solid fourth guard and our best perimeter defender.

I think if we are serious about getting the Clippers pick, we'd
have to offer Outlaw to move from 13 to 6 but if we can't move
up, we might be better off picking a SF like Batum, especially
if we lose James Jones.

The problem is that the Clips have a lot of forwards already. TThomas, Al Thornton, Ross, Etc. I think this might be a better three way option.

Also, cruising the Clippers board, they don't seem all that attached to Maggette. I don't know if he's a great fit for the Blazers, but the Clippers are an interesting idea.

PDXKnight · Post #18 » by **PDXKnight** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 5:41 am

The clippers have no reason to make this deal. They could get a much better player in the draft. I know that they supposedly want young veterans but this offer is simply not enough.

Butter · Post #19 » by **Butter** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 5:50 am

Oden2 wrote:The clippers have no reason to make this deal. They could get a much better player in the draft. I know that they supposedly want young veterans but this offer is simply not enough.

I agree. The Clippers want/need a young super-star, and the Blazers aren't going to give up any of their big 3 to accommodate them.

I think it's possible that the Blazers might be able to get in on some kind of a deal as a third party similar to the rumored 3/way between NJ/Dallas.

Discovery69 · Post #20 » by **Discovery69** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 8:19 am

Clippers backcourt is a mess. When you are starting Dan Dickau & Quinton Ross as your backcourt, then you know they are desparate.

Both Brand and Maggette are free agents after next season and if you look at their team. Maggette, Brand & Kaman will be their 3 stars. If you add Thornton then Maggette could move over to SG.

The Clippers also have a weak bench, with just Tim Thomas, Josh Powell and Cutino Mobley playing the bulk of the minutes.

Shaun Livingston has yet to play a full season without being injured. Not sure the Clippers will want to take a chance he will be injury free next season as their main PG.

Right now, as many of us don't see Jarrett Jack as a future Portland PG. Jack would certainly beat out Dickau & Brevin Knight for the starting PG for LA.

An upgrade at backcourt is what the Clippers need and right now... trading Jarrett Jack, Martell Webster & '09 1st (top three protected) would probably be a good start as a proposal in getting the #6 and a player.