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SI: "Aldridge the second coming of Rasheed"

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:49 pm
by Spykes
SI recently did a "Questions of Readers" type of article and 1 "question" (which was really more just some irate Bulls fan spouting off at the writer) had to do with the Bulls not keeping Aldridge in last years draft. The bold type of the questions/comments from the readers, the rest is his answer...

The Bulls had LaMarcus Aldridge; his name was Joe Smith. Your "no doubt" theory [that Ben Wallace would have looked like a better signing for Chicago had he been teamed up front with Aldridge or another productive power forward] is doubtful. People watch NBA games a lot more than you do and record every little thing that happens. For instance, the Bulls lack an inside scorer, not a scorer from the PF spot. There's a difference. Aldridge and Smith take an inordinate amount of jump shots greater than 8 feet away from the basket, and neither rebounds particularly well. If the Bulls had taken Aldridge, all you "experts" would be bitching that the Bulls just took another jump shooter when they really needed a back-to-the-basket guy.
-- Ty Dilts, Omaha, Neb.

When Ben Wallace was contending with the Pistons, who was their so-called inside scorer? The answer is Rasheed Wallace. In the equivalent of four full seasons with Detroit, roughly one-third of Rasheed's field-goal attempts have come from the three-point line.

What I hear from people in the league who watch NBA games more than I do and record every little thing that happens is that Ben Wallace -- to be most effective -- needs to be paired up front with length and offensive skill. Teaming him with a purely back-to-basket guy, as Mr. Dilts so courteously suggests, would not be the best approach. The right partner for Ben Wallace would have been a power forward who could do a bit of everything, who could score in a variety of ways while enabling Ben to space himself accordingly. Or is Mr. Dilts going to argue that Rasheed Wallace wasn't an excellent complement to Ben Wallace?

I also hear from people in the league that Aldridge is the second coming of Rasheed. The Trail Blazers are working with him on his low-post game as well as his three-point range; coach Nate McMillan insists that Aldridge will be a big threat down low as he matures. Does Aldridge command a double team down low? He doesn't today, but he should in the future.

Aldridge won't be the same player at 25 that he is now as a 22-year-old NBA sophomore. He'll continue to improve along the lines of Rasheed, in part because Aldridge is a reliable personality and an extremely hard worker. When Mr. Dilts asserts that Aldridge doesn't rebound well, then I suppose he would make the same complaint about Rasheed, who throughout his career has averaged one rebound every 4.9 minutes. Over his two years, Aldridge is producing a rebound every 4.6 minutes.

My point on the 6-11 Aldridge is that he might have provided the length and offensive balance that Ben Wallace needed in the short term. Plus, Aldridge could have grown and improved for the long term with the Bulls' young core of Luol Deng, Ben Gordon and Kirk Hinrich, who in turn would have benefited from playing with a power forward who is averaging 17.4 points in the Western Conference. (Joe Smith averaged 11.2 for Chicago.)


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/w ... own/1.html

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:54 pm
by mojomarc
Wow. It must suck to be Ty Dilts of Omaha right about now.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:02 pm
by BlackMamba
wow... nice answer.

and well, i think we all agree that aldridge has the likes and fell of rasheed.

LA for the moment might be shooting more away from the basket, maybe is because he knows he lacks certain strength to be a better post scorer.

also, once oden is down there many things will change.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:21 pm
by swede
Yeah Ty Dilts of Omaha got soned.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:26 pm
by Donatello
http://www.theindependent.com/Archive/1 ... all04.html

Mr. Ty Dilts was an honorable mention for Nebraska All-State football in 1998. You'd best recognize, foo. :rofl:

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:32 pm
by swede
You honestly googled Ty Dilts.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:38 pm
by Donatello
swede wrote:You honestly googled Ty Dilts.


I'm at work! What do you want me to do? :-P

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:01 pm
by TradeMachine
Speaking of Aldridge and Ben Wallace: http://youtube.com/watch?v=OiApjJ2c2rE

Aldridge second coming of Rasheed

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:03 pm
by Dogmont
At first glance, Aldridge looks like Rasheed, but he isn't close yet defensively. He bites on pump fakes WAY too much, and doesn't keep in front of his guy as well, but that all will change. Rasheed didn't improve defensively for a few years, had the ability, but just didn't try. Aldridge is smoother running the floor offensively, has better footwork and moves around the basket, but hasn't developed outside range. I hope that he continues with his mid-range game and stays away from the 3 point game that Sheed has. Sometimes Sheed shoots his team out of games taking those shots. All in all, I truly think , that Aldridge has more upside, is smoother with his teammates and the media, and will have a better career . Who can forget when Rasheed knocked the ball in Sabonis' face. Don't have to worry about that kind of stuff with LaMarcus. Good times ahead.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:57 pm
by Blaze the Nugz
Ty Dilts was a Cornhusker and won the 2000 Fiesta Bowl too!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/footba ... /2000/nnd/

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:08 pm
by mojomarc
i_heart_martell wrote:Ty Dilts was a Cornhusker and won the 2000 Fiesta Bowl too!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/footba ... /2000/nnd/


Great! It's one thing to be punked, but it's an entirely different thing to be punked when you were once a Husker! :D

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:27 pm
by ebott
I've got a friend at work that's a Bulls fan. I'll have to show this to him on Monday.

But maybe that's not so wise. A Blazer fan criticizing a Bulls fan for a bad draft day move is like a 500 pound man criticizing a 300 pound man for eating too much.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:45 pm
by PaKwAn
Im sorry to ask this but im also a blazer fan but dont have the luxury to watch many blazer games because i live in NJ,but is LA's rebounding not that good?

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:55 pm
by Fitz303
Its on and off.. Its getting better, and hes still learning, but he'll never be a 13rpg guy.. I would Imagine his best season he might average 10 but career will be in the high 8's low 9's due to him playing alongside Oden

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:05 am
by PaKwAn
Once Oden plays that 9-10rpg would be just right,im just excited of what this team will be next year. Thanks for the info.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:53 am
by UGotThrilled
I think most likely Aldridge will end up around 8-9 rpg. Thats fine. Its just when he goes for 25-2 (pts, rbs) that i get a little annoyed. I think that was the Cleveland game. But if he can consistently get at least 7+ rpg playing next to Oden, i think we will be fine.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:40 am
by Mr Odd
Im kind of sick of LMA being compared to Rasheed.
Outside of their high jumpshot & similar body, I dont
see it. LMAs mentality is different which translates to
his game. Rasheed has always be passive with his
shots & LMA is the opisit. I also believe LMA trys to
score more down by the paint then Rasheed.. .

Anyway, I just dont see it beyond those two things.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:11 am
by Red Robot
Everybody here already knows this, but Ty Dilts is full of it. He says the Bulls passed on Aldridge because he's not enough of an inside scorer. Never mind that they chose Tyrus Thomas, who's also a PF but about 1/5 the post scorer Aldridge is. Whose primary offensive skill is catching alley-oops. This season he's getting a full 25% of his "close" shot attempts blocked, according to 82games.com.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:12 am
by Red Robot
LaMarcus is a good offensive rebounder. He's in the top 20 in offensive rebound % and he was even better last year. He's a very poor defensive rebounder. This is made a little worse because Blazers are also a very bad rebounding team. Rasheed never had amazing rebound totals, but he's always been part of a good rebounding team. He always helped the Blazers' rebounding when he was on the floor for us.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:53 am
by Wizenheimer
Mr Odd wrote:Im kind of sick of LMA being compared to Rasheed.
Outside of their high jumpshot & similar body, I dont
see it. LMAs mentality is different which translates to
his game. Rasheed has always be passive with his
shots & LMA is the opisit. I also believe LMA trys to
score more down by the paint then Rasheed.. .

Anyway, I just dont see it beyond those two things.


I agree...their styles are quite different.

They are both tall and thin with excellent footspeed and a similar high release on their jump shot. I guess that's enough for some people to see similar players, but it's rather substance-free comparison