Mo Williams???

[Jsun947]

I've been thinking about him as a possible aquisition for our PG problem...

Pluses...
1.) He can score, and at a fairly high percentage all across the court. 18ppg, 48% FG, 39% 3PFG, 86% FT
2.) He can pass. He averages 6.5 assist per game, with a turnover ratio of 2.35
3.) Hes a decent rebounder for his size at 3.7 RPG.
4.) Its possible he may be obtained pretty cheap. I guess hes really really not working out starting with Redd.
5.) Milwaukie fans have said he needs a player next to him that helps make the teamates better because he simply does not do that. Ummm... Brandon Roy anyone?

Negatives...
1.) Hes 6-1, 180lbs. Not exactly the biggest gaurd available.
2.) According to Milwaukie fans his defense is god auful. To be honest, I havn't seen much of him play.
3.) He may have an attitude issue? Reading some of the stuff from their forum hes been in several arguments with coaches.
4.) His contract does not end until 2012/2013 when he has a player option of 8.5 million dollars. He is owed 43.5 million over the next 5 years.

My thoughts?
Depending on the price it might be a gamble worth taking, especially if we can also pull in a SF at the same time who we like and can contribute in a starting role.

On his defensive liabilities we have a pretty good defender in Roy, and with Aldridge and Oden roaming the paint it should help make up for some of our gaurds mistakes. If Mo is having defensive problems in Milwaukie I wonder how much of that is contributed to the fact that nobody in Milwaukie plays any defense....

[PhilipNelsonFan]

I'd explore the option...he's an insane volume scorer. But if his defense is really that bad, then Portland can afford to look elsewhere.

Great idea, though.

[SoHo]

The defense and contract worry me (as well as the attitude, but I don't know much about that so I won't comment).

If his defense is truly awful then I don't think he is the answer for us. We have the foundations for a really good defensive team with our current personnel so adding a player that doesn't fit means other teams will abuse us there. In the west with Paul and Williams quickly becoming the best PGs in the league I don't want PG to be our weakest defensive position.

I also don't like the idea of taking on his contract. The Bucks would certainly add someone like Simmons or Gadzuric to the mix and make us give them LaFrentz. I just think that money could be used better, and if we're taking on a bad contract it should be for a player that really is the answer long term and doesn't have such a glaring hole in his game.

However, if there aren't many other options on the table (which is a real possibility) then I think Mo Williams is someone to consider.

[PhilipNelsonFan]

Also complicating this situation is the fact that Mo Williams is a BYC player...with an insane, contract, no less. Just purely crunching numbers, we could trade Raef for Mo, Desmond Mason and Charlie Villanueva, which works under RealGM's restrictions.

[JD45]

With Roy, LMA and Oden, I think the Blazers are going to have plenty of offense.

Better to make sure the starting PG and SF are good defenders. A volume scorer at that position could actually hinder Oden and LMA's development.

[Pattycakes]

With Roy, LMA and Oden, I think the Blazers are going to have plenty of offense.

Better to make sure the starting PG and SF are good defenders. A volume scorer at that position could actually hinder Oden and LMA's development.

Example: Celtics

With Ray, Pierce, and KG, they just inserted a couple above average defenders [Rondo and Perk] into the lineup who are also decent scorers, with Broy, Lamarcus, and Greg, we can spare to give up offense for defense with a Martell and Blake-esque second fiddle IMO. I'd like to see JameyJones start personally, but I think Martell's defense is worth whatever you give up with Jones on the bench.

I think we need to work on acquiring vets, who have been there before, who have seen what it takes, and can instill that into the young bunch. At the end of the day, we need someone who's gonna step up and get in the face of danger for the team. We need our Stackhouse/Horry/Wally to jump up and go :bitchplease: all over the opponent.

[ReasonablySober]

Just an outsider's opinion, but I think Mo Williams would be outstanding on the Blazers.

For a variety of reasons, Mo Williams isn't particularly liked by most on the Bucks board. There's still a number of TJ Ford fans over there, a few that assured everyone that there was no way he would be dealt. They resent Mo for TJ being gone, stupid as that sounds. Others don't like him because he doesn't automatically come down and up it into Bogut on every possession. Nevermind that when the Bucks go to a free-flowing, high-tempo guard oriented attack the offense takes off and when they slow it down to accommodate Bogut the offense stalls.

Personally, I really like Mo. I think his defense isn't good, but unlike Redd, his issues stem with a lack of ability, not effort. He tries, he's just not very good. But it also doesn't help that he isn't playing with another single defender on the roster. Nobody on the Bucks defends.

While Mo has his detractors, most will agree that if paired with a playmaking SG or SF he would really take off. Redd's a blackhole. If Mo was playing with a guy that could create, someone like LeBron, Kobe, Wade or even Roy he would be outstanding. I was a big fan of Roy at U-Dub and watched almost all his games. I see a lot of OJ Mayo in Roy and if the Bucks could nab him I'd just assume keep Williams.

His contract is not an issue and I challenge anyone that believes it is. His deal averages $8.7 million over the next five. Compare that number with the type of money that other starters in the NBA make, many of whom couldn't hold Mo's jock. Mo's being paid right in line with what he should make. I think on a team with better players he actually out-performs that contract significantly.

[JD45]

Others don't like him because he doesn't automatically come down and up it into Bogut on every possession. Nevermind that when the Bucks go to a free-flowing, high-tempo guard oriented attack the offense takes off and when they slow it down to accommodate Bogut the offense stalls.

Personally, I really like Mo. I think his defense isn't good, but unlike Redd, his issues stem with a lack of ability, not effort. He tries, he's just not very good. B

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Those are pretty big negatives for the Blazers. With Oden and LMA, having a PG that won't throw them the ball could be a huge problem. And if he is just not capable of defending, it is even worse.

[ReasonablySober]

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Those are pretty big negatives for the Blazers. With Oden and LMA, having a PG that won't throw them the ball could be a huge problem. And if he is just not capable of defending, it is even worse.

Can LaMarcus hit an open jumper? If he can then there's nothing to worry about with Mo. Mo will find the open guys. In fact, I think Bogut is at his best when he's rolling to the hoop and getting easy buckets from Williams. But Bogut is very average one-on-one because he can't shoot and he doesn't have a solid post arsenal.

It probably doesn't matter anyway, though. Portland doesn't really have the contracts to put together an attractive deal.

[ReasonablySober]

With regards to his defense, I think you guys overate the importance of having a defensive PG on the Blazers. Roy's a solid defender and you guys are set to get an All-NBA level defender in Oden next season. Look at Tony Parker. He couldn't defend a chair but with it doesn't matter because he's playing next to Bowen and Duncan.

[Jsun947]

Considering...

We draft at #13
Prichard doesn't want to get younger
We need a good defender at PG
We need a PG who can take some of the scoring load when needed
We need a PG who can take care of the ball
We need a PG who can hit the open 3 on the kickout from Roy, Aldridge, and Oden...
Is 27 years of age or younger to fit our window

To me.. That fits Kirk Hinrich to a T..... LAST YEAR.

I think the fact that he has nobody on that team that can score high percentage shots really hurts him. Teams know they can zone in on the gaurds, leave everything else alone and win games.

If you put Hinrich in our line-up next year I can see him having a lot more open shots instead of having to force difficult ones.

[Jsun947]

With regards to his defense, I think you guys overate the importance of having a defensive PG on the Blazers. Roy's a solid defender and you guys are set to get an All-NBA level defender in Oden next season. Look at Tony Parker. He couldn't defend a chair but with it doesn't matter because he's playing next to Bowen and Duncan.

I think we also don't need a volume scorer at PG so we would rather have a PG who is a above average defender and someone who can pick up the scoring load when needed...

[PDXKnight]

I've thought about the possibility of getting Mo Williams before but I've always ultimately been against acquiring him because of his bad defense. Opposing point Guards constantly own him on offense and while his offense is arguably enough to compensate for his insufficiencies on defense, the Blazers don't need an all-offense PG. A defensive PG and SF (with some offense) is preferable to round out the Blazers' lineup and unfortunately, Mo Williams does not fit that category.

[Khazim]

With Roy, LMA and Oden, I think the Blazers are going to have plenty of offense.

Better to make sure the starting PG and SF are good defenders. A volume scorer at that position could actually hinder Oden and LMA's development.

+1

[SinceClyde]

Considering...

We draft at #13
Prichard doesn't want to get younger
We need a good defender at PG
We need a PG who can take some of the scoring load when needed
We need a PG who can take care of the ball
We need a PG who can hit the open 3 on the kickout from Roy, Aldridge, and Oden...
Is 27 years of age or younger to fit our window

To me.. That fits Kirk Hinrich to a T..... LAST YEAR.

I think the fact that he has nobody on that team that can score high percentage shots really hurts him. Teams know they can zone in on the gaurds, leave everything else alone and win games.

If you put Hinrich in our line-up next year I can see him having a lot more open shots instead of having to force difficult ones.

Hinrich would have been perfect. I agree with the last year statement because I think Blake has been better than him this season, considering turnovers and playing a role.

I really hope KP impresses us with a solution to this problem.

[PDXKnight]

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Hinrich would have been perfect. I agree with the last year statement because I think Blake has been better than him this season, considering turnovers and playing a role.

I really hope KP impresses us with a solution to this problem.

I still think Hinrich would be a good solution, especially now. Hinrich is in a bad situation right now and I really think he can bounce out of his current slump if given an opportunity on a better team. Portland provides the perfect opportunity for him what with Oden and LA in the post and Roy to give him wide open shots and he can be had for a relatively reasonable price right now. I'm not sure what Chicago would want for him but Raef's contract packaged with Jack and Frye might be enough to convince Chicago to bite. Acquiring Hinrich has its obvious risks but Hinrich-Roy-Martell-Aldridge-Oden seems like a fairly fierce lineup.