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Felton?

Posted: Tue Apr 1, 2008 11:37 pm
by jeffhardyfan52
What do you guys think of trying to pick up Raymond Felton?
He seems like he could be a nice fit for our starting PG spot. If the Bobcats pick up his option he will be a restricted free agent this year mayeb a sign and trade with the bobcats?

Posted: Tue Apr 1, 2008 11:42 pm
by Yadadimean
Felton Spencer retired a long time ago.

Posted: Tue Apr 1, 2008 11:46 pm
by jeffhardyfan52
must you make me feel like a little kid yada.? i dont even know who that is

Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:16 am
by Mr Odd
Yadadimean wrote:Felton Spencer retired a long time ago.

Haaaa, I remember him.
He had like big eyebrows, right?? Good role player.
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Raymond isnt to bad. Hes a smart player and can
move the ball around. Hes not a very good shooter
and is a avg defender if I remember correctly.. .
I havent seen a lot of him. I wonder how many
times (avg) he takes it to the rim a game??

Is there a site out there that has that stat on players??

Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:18 am
by Butter
Mr Odd wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Haaaa, I remember him.
He had like big eyebrows, right?? Good role player.
-
Raymond isnt to bad. Hes a smart player and can
move the ball around. Hes not a very good shooter
and is a avg defender if I remember correctly.. .
I havent seen a lot of him. I wonder how many
times (avg) he takes it to the rim a game??

Is there a site out there that has that stat on players??


That is a great question. I'd love to see something that talked about stats for driving to the rim. Maybe something that tracks points in the paint?

Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:28 am
by jeffhardyfan52
Heres some videso of him i foudn on youtube.
He seems to get to the rim alot and has a good outisde shot.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vo_WBCulyVQ
Splits a doubel team



http://youtube.com/watch?v=mxqE3Mw_IZI
Mix of his abotu 5 minutes long

Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:30 am
by Khazim
I'm really not a fan of his. He isn't absolutely terrible, but I certainly think we could do much better. I would put him about equal with an Earl Watson or so.

Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:30 am
by blazersmaniac8
14/3/7 isn't bad and he is 23/24 so right age, but his shooting is god awful. 41% from the field and only 28% from 3 land is AWFUL. I liked him alot as a rookie but he hasn't really progressed but for jack/frye and maybe a 2nd rounder I'm game.

Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:34 am
by jeffhardyfan52
How this sound for a trade


Portland Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -1.7 ppg, -4.1 rpg, and +2.7 apg.
Incoming Players
Raymond Felton
6-0 PG from North Carolina
14.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 7.1 apg in 37.5 minutes
Outgoing Players
Channing Frye
6-11 C from Arizona
6.2 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 0.7 apg in 16.4 minutes
Jarrett Jack
6-3 PG from Georgia Tech
9.7 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 3.7 apg in 26.9 minutes
Charlotte Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +1.7 ppg, +4.1 rpg, and -2.7 apg.
Incoming Players
Channing Frye
6-11 C from Arizona
6.2 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 0.7 apg in 16.4 minutes
Jarrett Jack
6-3 PG from Georgia Tech
9.7 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 3.7 apg in 26.9 minutes
Outgoing Players
Raymond Felton
6-0 PG from North Carolina
14.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 7.1 apg in 37.5 minutes


Maybe the bobcats give us a second rounder back since we are giveing them 2 players

Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:42 am
by Mr Odd
I rather keep Frye. To bad Jacks $$$ doesnt match up.

Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:43 am
by Butter
Here's what John Hollinger said about Felton at the start of the year:

2006-07 season: Felton is an ace at getting to the basket; it's just a shame the Bobcats can't bring in a relief pitcher to make the shot once he gets there. He's proven himself to be among the worst finishers in the game, constantly making dazzling drives and then botching the layup at the end.

For the year, Felton hit 43.8 percent of his shots in the immediate basket area; he and Derek Fisher are the only two players to make under 45 percent in each of the past two seasons. But unlike other players who shoot poor percentages from close-in (Fisher, Jannero Pargo, Matt Carroll, Ben Gordon, and Luke Ridnour, to name a few), Felton takes a ton of shots near the rim -- more than half his attempts have come from there each of the past two seasons.

Obviously, with the bulk of his attempts coming on shots he has trouble making, his overall shooting numbers are poor. Felton made only 38.4 percent from the field, undermining what otherwise was a very solid second pro season. He created a lot of shots, had decent assist and turnover numbers, defended competently, and hit enough 3s for defenses to respect his shot. He just couldn't make a layup.

Scouting report: Felton's penetration skills are his primary asset. He is very quick off the dribble, can go with either hand and is effective pushing the ball in transition. He has good court vision, too, and might be able to indulge that part of his game more now that he has a few teammates who can score. While Felton has a reputation as a poor outside shooter, he's actually done decently from outside the past couple seasons. Instead, finishing at the rim has been his big problem.

Defensively, it would be nice if he were an inch or two taller, but Felton does a good job keeping opposing guards in front of him and doesn't appear to have any glaring weaknesses. Opponents rarely attacked him since some of his teammates were such easy targets, but that might change this season.

2007-08 outlook: Felton figures to take another step forward this season, as even if his finishing troubles persist, his outside shot should continue developing. The other reason to like Felton this year is that he's likely to be trying to finish much less often -- the Bobcats have added enough scoring that he can focus on the drive-and-dish rather than driving for his own offense.

Brevin Knight's departure guarantees him a starting job and a likely 40 minutes-a-night gig. The Bobcats didn't even bother looking for a backup (well, unless you count Jeff McInnis), so obviously Felton's job is safe. All told, if you're looking for a breakout player this year, you could do a lot worse.

Most similar at age: Kenny Anderson


Height 6-1
Weight 198 lbs.

I love the idea of a PG who can get into the lane at will, but his shooting percentages are more than a little bit scary. Sounds like a smaller, more talented version of Jack.

Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:44 am
by Mr Odd
Sounds like Telfair too, he could get to the
hoop all the time but could never finish.. .

Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 1:20 am
by Spykes
The guy always puts up OK stats, but I never hear anything good about him. Even Bobcat fans don't speak particularly high of him.

I think Butter hit the nail on the head when he likened Felton to a more talented version of Jack. If Jarrett were given the kind of opportunities in Portland that Felton gets in Charlotte (starting at PG and playing 36-37 minutes a game), I don't think it's a huge stretch to imagine Jack putting up the same numbers Felton can.

As a matter of fact, I'll go as far as to question just how much more talented Felton actually is over Jack... Last year, when Jack was our starting PG and averaging over 30 minutes a game, he put up 12, 5 and 3, which isn't that far off from what Felton gets. Not to mention Jack shot at a much better percentage. In Felton's rookie season (starting and averaging 30 minutes a game), he averaged 12 points while taking 11 shots a game. Jack's sophomore year (started and averaged a little more than 30 minutes a game), he averaged 12 points on only 9 shots a game.

I could go on and on about the stats, but long story short, no, I have no interest in having Raymond Felton as our starting PG.

Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 1:26 am
by PDXKnight
I'm not a huge fan of Felton. He was overrated coming out of college and just isn't the type of PG I want starting for the Blazers.

Posted: Wed Apr 2, 2008 6:47 am
by Yadadimean
jeffhardyfan52 wrote:must you make me feel like a little kid yada.? i dont even know who that is


lol, there are worse things to feel like...