Game #2: LA Clippers at Sacramento, October 22, 7:00

[LightTheBeam]

Can we talk about Browns rotations? Davion has been horrible and he kept fox out from the 4 minute marks of 1st and 3rd until the 7-8 minute marks of the 2nd and 4th. These rotations making my head hurt.

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[LightTheBeam]

Matt Barnes just said he was surprised we didn't use Lyles, maybe that will be an option to help the bench offensively going forward. Too many mins flat offensively from the bench.

Lyles has sucked too in regular season and preseason on both sides.

At this point Holmes is a lost cause. Without Hali he looks terrible, and basically untradeable. I'd put lyles in over Holmes, at least he can shoot a corner 3. And it's not like Holmes has been good defensively either. It's just negative minutes, so I don't see what they have to lose.

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[BoogieTime]

Matt Barnes just said he was surprised we didn't use Lyles, maybe that will be an option to help the bench offensively going forward. Too many mins flat offensively from the bench.

Lyles has sucked too in regular season and preseason on both sides.

At this point Holmes is a lost cause. Without Hali he looks terrible, and basically untradeable. I'd put lyles in over Holmes, at least he can shoot a corner 3. And it's not like Holmes has been good defensively either. It's just negative minutes, so I don't see what they have to lose.

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Len was looking fairly solid in the preseason I thought.

[SupaFly1978]

I would like to see

PG: Fox
SG: Huerter
SF: Keegan
PF: Lyles
C: Boner

as the starting 5.
I would release Barnes personally, he’s completely worthless.

[jeffjtk1234]

Same old kangz


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[BoogieTime]

I would like to see

PG: Fox
SG: Huerter
SF: Keegan
PF: Lyles
C: Boner

as the starting 5.
I would release Barnes personally, he’s completely worthless.

Keegan is a PF, and Lyles starting.. just kill me. Okpala can at least be developed into a serious player, possibly

[LightTheBeam]

I hope Monte gets aggressive early with Barnes. Just like many of us said, the time to trade him was 2 deadlines ago, and then again last deadline. As feared, it looks like a worst case scenario where we won't get anything for him and shouldn't resign him.

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[LightTheBeam]

Sabonis, Barnes, Mitchell, Holmes and Monk

Domas has been doing nothing that he is supposed to be doing in the preseason and regular season and the trade with Haliburton so far this season is looking scary. He needs to imprint the game now

Barnes is looking over the hill in a year, glad we didn't see the extension. Murray needs his starting spot, continue to try to develop KZ

Mitchell is just looking like a bust, as said previously

Holmes is becoming a disliked bad bench player from starting solid center in a year.

Monk...

Sabonis can be rectified, hopefully. Davis needs to siphon most of Monk minutes.

Side note, I'm bummed you have come around on mitchell. Was really hoping you would be right last year, and I would be proven wrong. I said last season his ceiling was basically a worse shooting Bev. He's looking absolutely terrible

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[kalenclayton]

Regarding Barnes, it has been two games. He hasn’t looked very good, but give it time. The sky is not falling right now. The overreactions are abound.

[euphorbus]

As a coach, you have to play the long game. Like Brown and Kerr:

https://theathletic.com/3716872/2022/10/23/kerr-brown-warriors-kings/

[BoogieTime]

Sabonis, Barnes, Mitchell, Holmes and Monk

Domas has been doing nothing that he is supposed to be doing in the preseason and regular season and the trade with Haliburton so far this season is looking scary. He needs to imprint the game now

Barnes is looking over the hill in a year, glad we didn't see the extension. Murray needs his starting spot, continue to try to develop KZ

Mitchell is just looking like a bust, as said previously

Holmes is becoming a disliked bad bench player from starting solid center in a year.

Monk...

Sabonis can be rectified, hopefully. Davis needs to siphon most of Monk minutes.

Side note, I'm bummed you have come around on mitchell. Was really hoping you would be right last year, and I would be proven wrong. I said last season his ceiling was basically a worse shooting Bev. He's looking absolutely terrible

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Yeah, it started to falter at the end of last year, though I tried to be a fan about it over the summer.

The guy's career was going to be built on how much "dawg" he has in him. Rumors of being the first and last one at practice etc. At the end of last regular season the guy had some 20 point games with Fox out, then took his foot off the gas and literally cruised through the remainder. Thats when I questioned, are started to disbelieve in the "dawg". Someone with dawg doesn't stop, and would try to use all those opportunities without Fox.

So, if the "dawg" is in the end questionable, he isnt skilled enough to coast to a good career

[LightTheBeam]

Regarding Barnes, it has been two games. He hasn’t looked very good, but give it time. The sky is not falling right now. The overreactions are abound.

I think its more so that he's just not a fit anymore. His defense hasn't ever been great, but it seems especially bad with his lost step this year. Hes clogging the paint when fox/sabonis are working rather than spotting up for a 3.

I said it this off-season but I was 100% on board with moving him for crowder. I just felt our team had progressed past needing him. We have other scorers now, I'd prefer more of a 3&d type wing even if they are "worse"

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[LightTheBeam]

Sabonis, Barnes, Mitchell, Holmes and Monk

Domas has been doing nothing that he is supposed to be doing in the preseason and regular season and the trade with Haliburton so far this season is looking scary. He needs to imprint the game now

Barnes is looking over the hill in a year, glad we didn't see the extension. Murray needs his starting spot, continue to try to develop KZ

Mitchell is just looking like a bust, as said previously

Holmes is becoming a disliked bad bench player from starting solid center in a year.

Monk...

Sabonis can be rectified, hopefully. Davis needs to siphon most of Monk minutes.

Side note, I'm bummed you have come around on mitchell. Was really hoping you would be right last year, and I would be proven wrong. I said last season his ceiling was basically a worse shooting Bev. He's looking absolutely terrible

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Yeah, it started to falter at the end of last year, though I tried to be a fan about it over the summer.

The guy's career was going to be built on how much "dawg" he has in him. Rumors of being the first and last one at practice etc. At the end of last regular season the guy had some 20 point games with Fox out, then took his foot off the gas and literally cruised through the remainder. Thats when I questioned, are started to disbelieve in the "dawg". Someone with dawg doesn't stop, and would try to use all those opportunities without Fox.

So, if the "dawg" is in the end questionable, he isnt skilled enough to coast to a good career

Ya he just makes very questionable decisions. He continues to jack up bad 3s when his mid range is what is effective. He doesn't really finish well at the rim. And when he is handling the point, he is slow instead of giving us that extra energy off the bench. He has time to right the ship..

1. Push the pace
2. Become more of a facilitator (he had some success with this at the end of the season)
3. If he is going to shoot, look for his mid range, the spot he is at his best

He will never be a fox replacement, but if he plays to his strengths he could eventually not be a liability.

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