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Game 31 Thread - Kings (17-13) vs Wizards (12-21)

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Re: Game 31 Thread - Kings (17-13) vs Wizards (12-21) 

Post#21 » by sackings916 » Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:52 pm

Lost in LA wrote:Beaten by a smarter team which used a good game plan to exploit known weaknesses. Sac needs reinforcement at forward at a minimum, and neither Fox nor Huerter are really good defenders. Brown/Monte have to figure out that best way for the team to become more intense defensively, as when your 3 and 4 are being beaten all night it makes it hard to win.


Wasn’t sure if it was just me, but feel like Fox and Huerters defense have been pretty bad lately. Huerter isn’t quick enough to stop penetration, and he routinely gets bullied by the bigger guards/wings. Fox always gambling instead of just playing solid, fundamental defense and staying in front of his guy is extremely frustrating.
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Re: Game 31 Thread - Kings (17-13) vs Wizards (12-21) 

Post#22 » by BoogieTime » Sat Dec 24, 2022 7:51 pm

OxAndFox wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:
codydaze wrote:
I don't think he's ever left your list lol. And to say this game is on him is laughable, the entire team has zero energy. Fox is leading all scorers for us and has 11 attempts at the line. Keegan is 1/7 from the floor, Sabonis is 3/8. The team is just flat tonight.


the game was decided in the beginning of the second quarter when the team was doing nothing but giving the wizards the mojo of the game, and the players on the kings who were doing nothing about it

No it wasn’t. It was decided at the start of the game.
I do agree partially this (and other W/L) are on Fox for the exact thing he has done tonight. The Sacramento Kings won’t make the POs unless he punches teams in the mouth in the first quarter. He can sit back and talk smack to Kuzma after he has done so.
If not, STFU and play. Sick of this team being removed, yes from the top down. Stop talking about Keegan getting 1 board as a SF.
Start talking about this team has been smacked in the mouth by every EC team. That’s not to say they have lost every game, They’re ALL soft, not just Keegan. But let’s be lazy and blame a friggin rookie.

Why is it that you can LITERALLY tell what players are going to light the Kings up every game because they always have?

Let's chill out on some of the language.

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well, it was a one point game going into the second quarter.

But yes, the game was lost in that opening second quarter stretch.

The bench itself has been bad. Monk has fallen off a cliff after giving fans hope, and I still don't know why Brown refuses to play Len.

But it sure isn't going to survive Fox's sleepwalking and lack of leadership. There is a reason Brown is staggering the minutes like so. To have one of Sabonis and Fox in the game. Brown recognizes Sabonis to be superior to Fox, so he is giving Fox the brunt of when the other team's bench is in without Sabonis. And still, this unit has not gotten the job done, partially because of Fox's underwhelming impact on the game, aside from his post Haliburton stint.
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Re: Game 31 Thread - Kings (17-13) vs Wizards (12-21) 

Post#23 » by OxAndFox » Sat Dec 24, 2022 8:32 pm

BoogieTime wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:
the game was decided in the beginning of the second quarter when the team was doing nothing but giving the wizards the mojo of the game, and the players on the kings who were doing nothing about it

No it wasn’t. It was decided at the start of the game.
I do agree partially this (and other W/L) are on Fox for the exact thing he has done tonight. The Sacramento Kings won’t make the POs unless he punches teams in the mouth in the first quarter. He can sit back and talk smack to Kuzma after he has done so.
If not, STFU and play. Sick of this team being removed, yes from the top down. Stop talking about Keegan getting 1 board as a SF.
Start talking about this team has been smacked in the mouth by every EC team. That’s not to say they have lost every game, They’re ALL soft, not just Keegan. But let’s be lazy and blame a friggin rookie.

Why is it that you can LITERALLY tell what players are going to light the Kings up every game because they always have?

Let's chill out on some of the language.

-codydaze


well, it was a one point game going into the second quarter.

But yes, the game was lost in that opening second quarter stretch.

The bench itself has been bad. Monk has fallen off a cliff after giving fans hope, and I still don't know why Brown refuses to play Len.

But it sure isn't going to survive Fox's sleepwalking and lack of leadership. There is a reason Brown is staggering the minutes like so. To have one of Sabonis and Fox in the game. Brown recognizes Sabonis to be superior to Fox, so he is giving Fox the brunt of when the other team's bench is in without Sabonis. And still, this unit has not gotten the job done, partially because of Fox's underwhelming impact on the game, aside from his post Haliburton stint.


It just seems like Fox has the attitude of allowing others to get theirs at the start of games because he has the confidence to do his scoring at the tail end of games. The coaching staff should be on him about this. Not saying he has to do it all the time, but it would take the pressure off the bench unit.
Maybe its the sub pattern of Fox coming out early, but he still played 8 minutes in that 1st quarter with 0 points and 1 assist. At the moment teams are figuring out that he won't take the game away from you. There's obviously more to it though.
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Re: Game 31 Thread - Kings (17-13) vs Wizards (12-21) 

Post#24 » by BoogieTime » Sun Dec 25, 2022 12:12 am

OxAndFox wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:No it wasn’t. It was decided at the start of the game.
I do agree partially this (and other W/L) are on Fox for the exact thing he has done tonight. The Sacramento Kings won’t make the POs unless he punches teams in the mouth in the first quarter. He can sit back and talk smack to Kuzma after he has done so.
If not, STFU and play. Sick of this team being removed, yes from the top down. Stop talking about Keegan getting 1 board as a SF.
Start talking about this team has been smacked in the mouth by every EC team. That’s not to say they have lost every game, They’re ALL soft, not just Keegan. But let’s be lazy and blame a friggin rookie.

Why is it that you can LITERALLY tell what players are going to light the Kings up every game because they always have?

Let's chill out on some of the language.

-codydaze


well, it was a one point game going into the second quarter.

But yes, the game was lost in that opening second quarter stretch.

The bench itself has been bad. Monk has fallen off a cliff after giving fans hope, and I still don't know why Brown refuses to play Len.

But it sure isn't going to survive Fox's sleepwalking and lack of leadership. There is a reason Brown is staggering the minutes like so. To have one of Sabonis and Fox in the game. Brown recognizes Sabonis to be superior to Fox, so he is giving Fox the brunt of when the other team's bench is in without Sabonis. And still, this unit has not gotten the job done, partially because of Fox's underwhelming impact on the game, aside from his post Haliburton stint.


It just seems like Fox has the attitude of allowing others to get theirs at the start of games because he has the confidence to do his scoring at the tail end of games. The coaching staff should be on him about this. Not saying he has to do it all the time, but it would take the pressure off the bench unit.
Maybe its the sub pattern of Fox coming out early, but he still played 8 minutes in that 1st quarter with 0 points and 1 assist. At the moment teams are figuring out that he won't take the game away from you. There's obviously more to it though.


I don't think its a conscious process by Fox to tune it up later, but innate insosnsitency resulting in sporadic influence on game, but whatever it is your right, doing nothing for the first 1.5 quarters, when the game's balance is being fought, and then ending up with 26 points because your pouring it on when the game is over, doesn't help anyone.

Fox was buoyed by the fact that he thought the team actually chose him by trading Tyrese not knowing his own trade value, and the coaching change, now that those motivating factors seem decreasing, Brown/Fox need to work with what Fox has to positively impact the season.

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