Play In Game 1: #9 Kings vs #10 Mavericks

[codydaze]

Going out sad. We're stuck with Zach but you need to move everyone else outside of Keon/Keegan/Carter. Go young and restart.

Keegan's meek 2-6 and Keon's D on Klay this game, doesn't lead one to herald them and those are consistent issues, but their young..

Would rather see Keegan actually have the opportunity to get shots up than watch Derozan and Lavine iso ball hog and not impact winning.

[BoogieTime]

Going out sad. We're stuck with Zach but you need to move everyone else outside of Keon/Keegan/Carter. Go young and restart.

Keegan's meek 2-6 and Keon's D on Klay this game, doesn't lead one to herald them and those are consistent issues, but their young..

Would rather see Keegan actually have the opportunity to get shots up than watch Derozan and Lavine iso ball hog and not impact winning.

I think we have a gist on his innate personality, than blaming other factors, but I can see going young. Derozan shouldn't be starting tho. Zach should be off ball

[codydaze]

Keegan's meek 2-6 and Keon's D on Klay this game, doesn't lead one to herald them and those are consistent issues, but their young..

Would rather see Keegan actually have the opportunity to get shots up than watch Derozan and Lavine iso ball hog and not impact winning.

I think we have a gist on his innate personality, than blaming other factors, but I can see going young. Derozan shouldn't be starting tho. Zach should be off ball

Zach should be off ball but he can't play off ball. If he doesn't have the ball in his hands or getting a dribble handoff he just floats around the perimeter.

[BoogieTime]

I’ve left the game… this clown team needs to be blown up

I was/am pissed about this game, and this end to the season... but I still feel as though I need to see another coach with the roster first.. loved DC as a player, but don't expect him back..

The roster just seems better than its output and the system for me was awful, and there was no symbiosis with the players.. and I would have had different rotations.. and hopefully the youth or early-mid 20s improve, and im big on Carter

[BoogieTime]

^^^ and maybe, like most playin/post season hopefuls we can starting spending draft capital to augment

but I realize most other fans want a tear down

[codydaze]

^^^ and maybe, like most playin/post season hopefuls we can starting spending draft capital to augment

but I realize most other fans want a tear down

That would be an incredibly Vivek move to make (in other words: horrible) but I won't put it past him. Let's trade all this draft capital we have available now to move up from a 9 seed play in loser to be a 7 seed play in loser!

[City of Trees]

Sell the team. Trade everyone. Change the uniforms. Hell, change the team name. Only thing that stays is the arena

[BoogieTime]

^^^ and maybe, like most playin/post season hopefuls we can starting spending draft capital to augment

but I realize most other fans want a tear down

That would be an incredibly Vivek move to make (in other words: horrible) but I won't put it past him. Let's trade all this draft capital we have available now to move up from a 9 seed play in loser to be a 7 seed play in loser!

Yes, may be aggressive this summer

I was supposing a new coach was already doing better with this crew before being parceled out which I think will happen

Then,~ 75% of all competitive hopefuls move draft capital to improve and if you aren’t your hamstringing the direction

And many, including owner, don’t mind non championship or die periphery playoffs like how many everyday non realgm kings fans who have sat through decades of nonsense

[codydaze]

^^^ and maybe, like most playin/post season hopefuls we can starting spending draft capital to augment

but I realize most other fans want a tear down

That would be an incredibly Vivek move to make (in other words: horrible) but I won't put it past him. Let's trade all this draft capital we have available now to move up from a 9 seed play in loser to be a 7 seed play in loser!

Yes, may be aggressive this summer

I was supposing a new coach was already doing better with this crew before being parceled out which I think will happen

Then,~ 75% of all competitive hopefuls move draft capital to improve and if you aren’t your hamstringing the direction

And many, including owner, don’t mind non championship or die periphery playoffs like how many everyday non realgm kings fans who have sat through decades of nonsense

No, trading your draft capital is hamstringing your entire franchise. Accepting play in appearances as your team's ceiling is just absurd. This current iteration of the team has the least potential of any group that has been here the last 20 years. Riding with a core of Zach/Demar/Domas into their 30s (nearly 40s for Demar) and trading draft capital to try and play two play in games rather than one would be the dumbest thing the org has done during the entire drought era.

[BoogieTime]

That would be an incredibly Vivek move to make (in other words: horrible) but I won't put it past him. Let's trade all this draft capital we have available now to move up from a 9 seed play in loser to be a 7 seed play in loser!

Yes, may be aggressive this summer

I was supposing a new coach was already doing better with this crew before being parceled out which I think will happen

Then,~ 75% of all competitive hopefuls move draft capital to improve and if you aren’t your hamstringing the direction

And many, including owner, don’t mind non championship or die periphery playoffs like how many everyday non realgm kings fans who have sat through decades of nonsense

No, trading your draft capital is hamstringing your entire franchise. Accepting play in appearances as your team's ceiling is just absurd. This current iteration of the team has the least potential of any group that has been here the last 20 years. Riding with a core of Zach/Demar/Domas into their 30s (nearly 40s for Demar) and trading draft capital to try and play two play in games rather than one would be the dumbest thing the org has done during the entire drought era.

It’s already a playin ceiling team with an interim coach and no capital besides that swap. What though hopeful improvement from within and aging west

And we see the roster on paper differently. Sabonis/lavine/monk/Derozan (if he accepts bench role)/where I see Carter going/hopefully Keegan and Keon improve/Jv /hopefully we keep LaRavia

I see the talent on paper different from output, and we will see if it’s accurate notion to start next season with new coach most likely

[codydaze]

Yes, may be aggressive this summer

I was supposing a new coach was already doing better with this crew before being parceled out which I think will happen

Then,~ 75% of all competitive hopefuls move draft capital to improve and if you aren’t your hamstringing the direction

And many, including owner, don’t mind non championship or die periphery playoffs like how many everyday non realgm kings fans who have sat through decades of nonsense

No, trading your draft capital is hamstringing your entire franchise. Accepting play in appearances as your team's ceiling is just absurd. This current iteration of the team has the least potential of any group that has been here the last 20 years. Riding with a core of Zach/Demar/Domas into their 30s (nearly 40s for Demar) and trading draft capital to try and play two play in games rather than one would be the dumbest thing the org has done during the entire drought era.

It’s already a playin ceiling team with an interim coach and no capital besides that swap.

And we see the roster on paper differently. Sabonis/lavine/monk/Derozan (if he accepts bench role)/where I see Carter going/hopefully Keegan and Keon improve/Jv /hopefully we keep LaRavia

I see the talent on paper different from output, and we will see if it’s accurate notion to start next season with new coach most likely

Vivek wants to keep Doug so prepare for Doug to be hired full time.

This team is going nowhere. I would rather watch a young team and build through the draft than watch this group win 38-40 games and clawing our way into the play in every year. Lavine/Derozan are a losing duo and the worst fits possible with Sabonis.

[BoogieTime]

No, trading your draft capital is hamstringing your entire franchise. Accepting play in appearances as your team's ceiling is just absurd. This current iteration of the team has the least potential of any group that has been here the last 20 years. Riding with a core of Zach/Demar/Domas into their 30s (nearly 40s for Demar) and trading draft capital to try and play two play in games rather than one would be the dumbest thing the org has done during the entire drought era.

It’s already a playin ceiling team with an interim coach and no capital besides that swap.

And we see the roster on paper differently. Sabonis/lavine/monk/Derozan (if he accepts bench role)/where I see Carter going/hopefully Keegan and Keon improve/Jv /hopefully we keep LaRavia

I see the talent on paper different from output, and we will see if it’s accurate notion to start next season with new coach most likely

Vivek wants to keep Doug so prepare for Doug to be hired full time.

This team is going nowhere. I would rather watch a young team and build through the draft than watch this group win 38-40 games and clawing our way into the play in every year. Lavine/Derozan are a losing duo and the worst fits possible with Sabonis.

If Doug stays, a lot of my theory of the team being better on paper will dissipate, and I might have another view

As of now, I have a theory the team is better on paper which will be seen with a new coach most

Keeping Doug from what I saw of his rotations/team chemistry/ability to inspire instead of landing a proven coach would not be suitable for me

If Doug is kept, which would be a bad scenario, I’d still expect them to give him a proper training season and we will see if we get any improvement from within before moving anyone in a direction this summer

[codydaze]

It’s already a playin ceiling team with an interim coach and no capital besides that swap.

And we see the roster on paper differently. Sabonis/lavine/monk/Derozan (if he accepts bench role)/where I see Carter going/hopefully Keegan and Keon improve/Jv /hopefully we keep LaRavia

I see the talent on paper different from output, and we will see if it’s accurate notion to start next season with new coach most likely

Vivek wants to keep Doug so prepare for Doug to be hired full time.

This team is going nowhere. I would rather watch a young team and build through the draft than watch this group win 38-40 games and clawing our way into the play in every year. Lavine/Derozan are a losing duo and the worst fits possible with Sabonis.

If Doug stays, a lot of my theory of the team being better on paper will dissipate, and I might have another view

As of now, I have a theory the team is better on paper which will be seen with a new coach most

Keeping Doug from what I saw of his rotations/team chemistry/ability to inspire instead of landing a proven coach would not be suitable for me

If Doug is kept, which would be a bad scenario, I’d still expect them to give him a proper training season and we will see if we get any improvement from within before moving anyone in a direction this summer

Based on what though? And do you seriously think a Popovich/Spoelstra caliber coach is eager to walk into this mess of an organization?

Zach Lavine has 1 playoff win in his entire career.

Derozan is going to be 36 years old next season.

Domas for as good as he is in the regular season has shrunk in every postseason/play in opportunity with the Kings.

The roster is horribly put together. Everyone (not just Kings fans) can see it.

[BoogieTime]

Vivek wants to keep Doug so prepare for Doug to be hired full time.

This team is going nowhere. I would rather watch a young team and build through the draft than watch this group win 38-40 games and clawing our way into the play in every year. Lavine/Derozan are a losing duo and the worst fits possible with Sabonis.

If Doug stays, a lot of my theory of the team being better on paper will dissipate, and I might have another view

As of now, I have a theory the team is better on paper which will be seen with a new coach most

Keeping Doug from what I saw of his rotations/team chemistry/ability to inspire instead of landing a proven coach would not be suitable for me

If Doug is kept, which would be a bad scenario, I’d still expect them to give him a proper training season and we will see if we get any improvement from within before moving anyone in a direction this summer

Based on what though? And do you seriously think a Popovich/Spoelstra caliber coach is eager to walk into this mess of an organization?

Zach Lavine has 1 playoff win in his entire career.

Derozan is going to be 36 years old next season.

Domas for as good as he is in the regular season has shrunk in every postseason/play in opportunity with the Kings.

The roster is horribly put together. Everyone (not just Kings fans) can see it.

It’s a lot of talent on paper from my vantage point

The roster’s fit is in question but it can also lead to can anyone make them fit better. I thought there was a lack of cogent coherent system and the starting lineup was blatantly off from my perspective, post deadline. In addition to the tactical issues, Doug has a questionable players coach personality for the job

[LightTheBeam]

All this is irrelevant. We most certainly wont be running it back. Based on Amick reporting + all the obvious signs, Sabonis is asking out and Derozan wants to go also.

LaVine is so toxic that within 4 months the whole team wants out. Partially kidding, Vivek is obviously the main problem.

[Silver Man]

Vivek wants to keep Doug so prepare for Doug to be hired full time.

This team is going nowhere. I would rather watch a young team and build through the draft than watch this group win 38-40 games and clawing our way into the play in every year. Lavine/Derozan are a losing duo and the worst fits possible with Sabonis.

If Doug stays, a lot of my theory of the team being better on paper will dissipate, and I might have another view

As of now, I have a theory the team is better on paper which will be seen with a new coach most

Keeping Doug from what I saw of his rotations/team chemistry/ability to inspire instead of landing a proven coach would not be suitable for me

If Doug is kept, which would be a bad scenario, I’d still expect them to give him a proper training season and we will see if we get any improvement from within before moving anyone in a direction this summer

Based on what though? And do you seriously think a Popovich/Spoelstra caliber coach is eager to walk into this mess of an organization?

Zach Lavine has 1 playoff win in his entire career.

Derozan is going to be 36 years old next season.

Domas for as good as he is in the regular season has shrunk in every postseason/play in opportunity with the Kings.

The roster is horribly put together. Everyone (not just Kings fans) can see it.

It's a 2K roster that didn't work in Chicago so we brought the failed experiment and now have some horrific contracts with Lavine getting 47.5 million and DeRozan 24.75 million next year. Dark days are ahead.

[codydaze]

All this is irrelevant. We most certainly wont be running it back. Based on Amick reporting + all the obvious signs, Sabonis is asking out and Derozan wants to go also.

LaVine is so toxic that within 4 months the whole team wants out. Partially kidding, Vivek is obviously the main problem.

Amick also reported that Vivek wants to extend Zach because clearly he made such an impact on this roster...

[LightTheBeam]

All this is irrelevant. We most certainly wont be running it back. Based on Amick reporting + all the obvious signs, Sabonis is asking out and Derozan wants to go also.

LaVine is so toxic that within 4 months the whole team wants out. Partially kidding, Vivek is obviously the main problem.

Amick also reported that Vivek wants to extend Zach because clearly he made such an impact on this roster...

I told a family member recently. What is the worst outcome you can think of for the Kings? Now double it and you have reality.

I had a terrible feeling we would try and convince LaVine to opt out of the option year, and instead try to get him for 3/120. Then Kings copium for try and convince "doomers" that Lavine is curry-lite and we just got him to opt out and give a family discount lol.

LaVine was so terrible the writing was on the wall. When discussing Fox trades I joked we would get Beal or LaVine. I didn't actually think a franchise was managed so terribly they would consider it

[kevin44]

Trading Fox for Lavine sealed this teams fate. The owner is the biggest problem. The new tv deal and the crazy valuation of the team just keeps making Vivek richer. He will never spend the money needed to compete for a ring. Starting over after finally getting to the playoffs after all these years just sucks. Last night really showed how bad this organization is.