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Post#21 » by KingInExile » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:39 pm

Wolfay wrote:And that whole "passing the torch to your young guys" thing is crap. You pass the torch to your GOOD GUYS, otherwise you'll never win anything. All of these people saying we should play the youngins and try to get the highest possible draft picks are really getting on my nerves. That crap really doesn't work.
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Post#22 » by KingInExile » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:51 pm

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I have never ever heard an actual NBA player say that. Now, that might be just because they want to play but c'mon now. You can only learn so much in practice. Trial by fire seems to be the way just about every lotto team goes about it. Are we a lotto team? Check.

I think losing is losing and we've already lost, at the end of the day it really doesn't matter how pretty you looked while doing it. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Need to start focusing on the war.

You also run the risk of doing more harm to a young player's confidence and development by throwing them into situations when they are not ready. When you look at the perennial lotto teams that try to rebuild by just collecting young guys and throwing them on the floor, they tend to stay a lotto team for a long time (then trade a lot of that youth for "veteran leadership"). The Kings have a mix of youth and "veteran leadership" right now. Those groups need to play together so the team as a whole can develop.
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Post#23 » by chrbal » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:59 pm

Douby sucks. His best case scenario is Juan Dixon...you really want to give that any more playing time?
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Post#24 » by KF10 » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:05 pm

chrbal wrote:Douby sucks. His best case scenario is Juan Dixon...you really want to give that any more playing time?


Eh, you could have said the same thing to Kevin Martin during his first 2 years...I give Douby another year....He has shown that he can play in the NBA...His potential is Jason Terry-ish type of player....
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Post#25 » by UKF » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:41 am

I like him, but I dont get the feeling that he will be hear for the ling term. I think their are other teams out there that he would fit in a lot better with.

I think he can be a good player in this league, but I dont think he will be able to reach his best game with this team.

If Monta signs with Memphis this offseason, I think Douby would be a great fit in Oakland. Phoenix is also a place where his game could be best used.
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Post#26 » by BMiller52 » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:57 am

Ultimate Kings Fan wrote:I like him, but I dont get the feeling that he will be hear for the ling term. I think their are other teams out there that he would fit in a lot better with.

I think he can be a good player in this league, but I dont think he will be able to reach his best game with this team.

If Monta signs with Memphis this offseason, I think Douby would be a great fit in Oakland. Phoenix is also a place where his game could be best used.


Yeah I agree. I dunno I think he could fit in well with a run and gun team, but I don't know if I want to see him on division rivals.
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Post#27 » by SacKingZZZ » Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:56 am

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You also run the risk of doing more harm to a young player's confidence and development by throwing them into situations when they are not ready. When you look at the perennial lotto teams that try to rebuild by just collecting young guys and throwing them on the floor, they tend to stay a lotto team for a long time (then trade a lot of that youth for "veteran leadership"). The Kings have a mix of youth and "veteran leadership" right now. Those groups need to play together so the team as a whole can develop.


What are we now? We have the smell, the look, and the record of a perennial lotto team people! Only difference is we are a LATE lotto team, just bad, bad, bad. Plus you can always aquire that young talent to use later on, just like Boston did. If they stuck Al Jefferson on the bench behind Mark Blount for the first 3-4 years of his career do you think KG would be in Boston now?

We have good veteren leadership but Ron Artest is not that guy to lead that team. He has already piped up about playing the young guys which really changed my view on him fitting in on a rebuilding team, he wants to win PERIOD. If the Kings plan on using Ron as the centerpiece moving forward, well...I don't know what they can do but Geoff Petrie better pull some magic out of his hat like never before seen in this league because he has done nothing to facilitate a move in that direction up to this point.
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Post#28 » by KingInExile » Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:18 pm

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What are we now? We have the smell, the look, and the record of a perennial lotto team people! Only difference is we are a LATE lotto team, just bad, bad, bad. Plus you can always aquire that young talent to use later on, just like Boston did. If they stuck Al Jefferson on the bench behind Mark Blount for the first 3-4 years of his career do you think KG would be in Boston now?

We have good veteren leadership but Ron Artest is not that guy to lead that team. He has already piped up about playing the young guys which really changed my view on him fitting in on a rebuilding team, he wants to win PERIOD. If the Kings plan on using Ron as the centerpiece moving forward, well...I don't know what they can do but Geoff Petrie better pull some magic out of his hat like never before seen in this league because he has done nothing to facilitate a move in that direction up to this point.

I love how panic-mongers blow every situation out of proportion. I did not know that missing the playoffs for 2 years qualified as "perennial"...I guess we will need to rewrite the definition of that word.

I'm done with this argument...it will go nowhere because you and the other "the sky is falling so play the young guys now" group do not listen to reason.
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Post#29 » by chrbal » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:26 pm

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Eh, you could have said the same thing to Kevin Martin during his first 2 years...I give Douby another year....He has shown that he can play in the NBA...His potential is Jason Terry-ish type of player....


Martins 1st year, maybe. His 2nd season, are you kidding me?

G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
72 41 26.6 0.480 0.369 0.847 0.8 2.8 3.6 1.3 0.8 0.1 1.13 1.90 10.8


Douby is a "no posistion" player. He'll be lucky to get a new contract out of the Kings.
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Post#30 » by KF10 » Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:33 pm

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Douby is a "no posistion" player. He'll be lucky to get a new contract out of the Kings.


Umm, Martin's 2nd year,especially, in the 1st half of the season sucked...When Bonzi went down (groin injury) Martin shined in the 2nd half of the season..Thus, his stats...(Thank god, we didnt resigned Bonzi...) So all in all, it was opportunity and some luck to in a situation of success. Douby has the talent to do that...But the opportunity (and luck) hasnt come...yet.... We cant simply predict this yet...So, waiting for one more year is ideal...
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Post#31 » by a-rod » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:21 pm

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I love how panic-mongers blow every situation out of proportion. I did not know that missing the playoffs for 2 years qualified as "perennial"...I guess we will need to rewrite the definition of that word.

I'm done with this argument...it will go nowhere because you and the other "the sky is falling so play the young guys now" group do not listen to reason.

A little bit harsh....
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Post#32 » by Wolfay » Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:56 pm

a-rod wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


A little bit harsh....


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Post#33 » by KingInExile » Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:23 pm

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A little bit harsh....

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Post#34 » by backer55 » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:40 pm

My take on Douby, he's not really a very good shot, doesn't handle the ball well, makes up his mind to shoot before he gets the ball, streak shooter, is not a team player, and has a very low BB IQ.

If he's worth anything, trade him for our star of the future. Any pro that gets this far can be as good or better than what he gives us. Time on the floor for him is time wasted. This waste should be used where other, better players could use to better our consistancy, thus our team. My 2 cents!
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Post#35 » by SacKingZZZ » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:30 am

KingInExile wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


I love how panic-mongers blow every situation out of proportion. I did not know that missing the playoffs for 2 years qualified as "perennial"...I guess we will need to rewrite the definition of that word.

I'm done with this argument...it will go nowhere because you and the other "the sky is falling so play the young guys now" group do not listen to reason.



I'd say 2 years in a row, most likely on your way to a 3rd is pretty much "perennial".

I am not a "sky is falling" person. I am a "the sky has already fallen" person.

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