Sacramento (36-41) @ Golden State (46-31)

Post #81 » by **pillwenney** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:10 am

DanLanghiOwnsAll wrote:Garcia is like the Dunleavy of Sacramento. Teasing the fans by tearing it up when it doesn't much matter anymore.

Martin is a stud, but I'd like to see him more involved on the defensive side of things. He seems kind of soft and passive. You definitely need more out of your guard when you have Spencer Hawes or Mikki Moore swatting at flies in the paint.

John Salmons is a keeper IMO. It comes down to the Kings having no big out there.

Cisco has been tearing it up all year--especially in clutch situations (i.e. - "when it matters").

Ballings7 · Post #82 » by **Ballings7** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:35 am

Yeah, Cisco's come along strongly, specifially, I feel like his shot has a good chance to go down every time.

Not so much in Oakland, but Dunleavy's been tearing it up in Indiana. I'm happy for him, and he's changed my view of him as a player. I actually have enjoyed watching him when I've seen the Pacers through out the season.

Smills91 · Post #83 » by **Smills91** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:17 pm

DanLanghiOwnsAll wrote:Garcia is like the Dunleavy of Sacramento. Teasing the fans by tearing it up when it doesn't much matter anymore.

Martin is a stud, but I'd like to see him more involved on the defensive side of things. He seems kind of soft and passive. You definitely need more out of your guard when you have Spencer Hawes or Mikki Moore swatting at flies in the paint.

John Salmons is a keeper IMO. It comes down to the Kings having no big out there.

Don't you DARE say that...that's BLASPHEMY! You should ban for even mentioning their names in a comparison.

Garcia is actually a GOOD player with a lot of heart that plays defense. Dumbleavy is a dumb idiot who's in the league due to his connections that plays ZERO defense.

SadKingsFan · Post #84 » by **SadKingsFan** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:19 am

DanLanghiOwnsAll wrote:Garcia is like the Dunleavy of Sacramento. Teasing the fans by tearing it up when it doesn't much matter anymore.

Martin is a stud, but I'd like to see him more involved on the defensive side of things. He seems kind of soft and passive. You definitely need more out of your guard when you have Spencer Hawes or Mikki Moore swatting at flies in the paint.

John Salmons is a keeper IMO. It comes down to the Kings having no big out there.

No way, Garcia has been fantastic and very consistent. At times he makes bonehead plays but not as often as he did in the past.

Salmons is the one who needs to go IMO. If we can somehow get a pretty good big man or point guard by trading him, then i would send john packing.

Post #85 » by **KF10** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:52 am

Theus has done a great job for Martin's progression in footwork around the post.

Various possessions throughout the game, Martin wanted to back down his defenders (Which he was actually successful!) Martin backed down Buke (I think) and spinned away from him and ran baseline for the jam. Also, he backed down Ellis in the post and Martin did a power hop and and fade away J...swish... And etc

DanLanghiOwnsAll · Post #86 » by **DanLanghiOwnsAll** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:38 am

Garcia is a tease.

But maybe that's because I see him as a guy who can be a lot better than he is.

Post #87 » by **KF10** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:40 am

DanLanghiOwnsAll wrote:Garcia is a tease.

But maybe that's because I see him as a guy who can be a lot better than he is.

What do you mean by "tease"? You mean that this year is a fluke by Garcia?

BMiller52 · Post #88 » by **BMiller52** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:57 am

kingsfan10 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

What do you mean by "tease"? You mean that this year is a fluke by Garcia?

No he means Garcia plays real well sometimes, and then other times there is a huge drop off. I see it too sometimes. Luckily he has a ton of confidence since his minutes have gone up this year and still hustles and defends even if his shot isn't on.

Post #89 » by **KF10** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:15 am

BMiller52 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

No he means Garcia plays real well sometimes, and then other times there is a huge drop off. I see it too sometimes. Luckily he has a ton of confidence since his minutes have gone up this year and still hustles and defends even if his shot isn't on.

Oh, I see! Oops, I read his statement wrong...lol...Thanks!

Yeah, I do see it as well. Garcia needs to be a bit more consistent IMO...

Post #90 » by **pillwenney** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:26 am

But even then, a "tease" is a player who has a great game once every like 5 or so games and then doesn't show up much besides that. Cisco, like all players has off games, but he's generally an awesome role player, and sometimes looks like a star. But when he looks like a star, that's just a bonus. Unlike with Dunleavy, nobody ever expected Cisco to really be any better than he currently is.