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What do you think would be the best outcome of the offseason?

Both Ron and Beno are back next year
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Just Ron is back
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Neither return
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Post#141 » by Smills91 » Tue Jun 3, 2008 4:31 pm

Beno is probably worth what John Salmons contract got him IMO.
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Post#142 » by SacKingZZZ » Tue Jun 3, 2008 5:00 pm

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The full MLE is overpaying for Beno and is unnecessary if we get a PG in the draft. I know that Petrie does like Beno, but he's also a realist. Beno is not worth overpaying.



Two words: Mikki Moore.

It would be better use of our MLE than 2 of the last 3 years at least. I think he is worth the MLE.
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Post#143 » by pillwenney » Tue Jun 3, 2008 11:17 pm

I think that typically the MLE is about the cost of a solid starter or a very good bench player. I think Beno is worth the MLE on a team where he would start--not so sure if that's true if he's coming off the bench.
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Post#144 » by sackings916 » Wed Jun 4, 2008 12:07 am

I predict Beno wont be with the Kings next year. I dont think Petrie wants another long term contract and would rather keep the flexibility.
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Post#145 » by a-rod » Wed Jun 4, 2008 12:27 am

^I agree, He's Very nice and an asset to any team, useful role player, but he's no starter on a contender, even in the East. It doesn't make sense to use the full MLE on him when the team is rebuilding, He's likely going to pass up a possible backup job with a perennial contender for a chance to play starter on a playoff team.
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Post#146 » by KingInExile » Wed Jun 4, 2008 12:50 am

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Two words: Mikki Moore.

It would be better use of our MLE than 2 of the last 3 years at least. I think he is worth the MLE.

Mikki Moore was a stop-gap alternative in a position where we were (are) desperate. He's also an expiring contract in 2010 and can be as good as an expiring contract next summer if need be.

Beno is a good player who can be very useful at the point. But if Petrie drafts an Augistine or Westbrook, then there is no need for Beno at the MLE. I'm surprised you, someone who spent most of the last season advocating "play the young guys" would want to keep around a veteran who would take minutes away from a "young guy who's part of the future".
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Post#147 » by pillwenney » Wed Jun 4, 2008 3:15 am

a-rod wrote:^I agree, He's Very nice and an asset to any team, useful role player, but he's no starter on a contender, even in the East. It doesn't make sense to use the full MLE on him when the team is rebuilding, He's likely going to pass up a possible backup job with a perennial contender for a chance to play starter on a playoff team.


I disagree--it depends on the team. Obviously if the team is heavily reliant on a PG, then Beno isn't the answer, but I could easily see him starting for either team that is in the finals right now.

Beno is a good player who can be very useful at the point. But if Petrie drafts an Augistine or Westbrook, then there is no need for Beno at the MLE. I'm surprised you, someone who spent most of the last season advocating "play the young guys" would want to keep around a veteran who would take minutes away from a "young guy who's part of the future".


To be fair, I don't think Westbrook is very close to being ready to run an NBA team.
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Post#148 » by SacKingZZZ » Wed Jun 4, 2008 6:45 am

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Mikki Moore was a stop-gap alternative in a position where we were (are) desperate. He's also an expiring contract in 2010 and can be as good as an expiring contract next summer if need be.

Beno is a good player who can be very useful at the point. But if Petrie drafts an Augistine or Westbrook, then there is no need for Beno at the MLE. I'm surprised you, someone who spent most of the last season advocating "play the young guys" would want to keep around a veteran who would take minutes away from a "young guy who's part of the future".



Um, TWO WORDS: MIKKI MOORE!!!! :wink:

The same exact circumstances surrounding the signing of Mikki Moore. Except one important thing, Beno is young. Not only that but he is someone who the Kings have had interest in for a long time, and for the numbers he is capable of producing he is well worth the MLE.
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Post#149 » by SacKingZZZ » Wed Jun 4, 2008 6:48 am

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I disagree--it depends on the team. Obviously if the team is heavily reliant on a PG, then Beno isn't the answer, but I could easily see him starting for either team that is in the finals right now.


To be fair, I don't think Westbrook is very close to being ready to run an NBA team.


Exactly why I think we should re-sign Beno. I think by re-signing him to such a reasonable deal we can really focus on other areas, like a big man for example, and using the extra capital to either keep one long term that we either draft, sign outright, or trade for.

I think we will have 3 spots locked up with solid players on bargain contracts in Beno, Kevin, and John. Then there is the potential for a lot of wiggle room elsewhere.
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Post#150 » by pillwenney » Wed Jun 4, 2008 7:40 am

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Exactly why I think we should re-sign Beno. I think by re-signing him to such a reasonable deal we can really focus on other areas, like a big man for example, and using the extra capital to either keep one long term that we either draft, sign outright, or trade for.

I think we will have 3 spots locked up with solid players on bargain contracts in Beno, Kevin, and John. Then there is the potential for a lot of wiggle room elsewhere.


Well what I meant was that a team can contend and have Beno starting at PG--but the rest of their talent has to be stellar (as would be the case in Boston or LA for example). The talent we currently have (particularly the younger players) is good, but not amazing, so unless a superstar comes our way, Beno probably won't cut it as our real future PG. He's just not that amazing of a player.
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Post#151 » by KingInExile » Wed Jun 4, 2008 2:58 pm

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Exactly why I think we should re-sign Beno. I think by re-signing him to such a reasonable deal we can really focus on other areas, like a big man for example, and using the extra capital to either keep one long term that we either draft, sign outright, or trade for.

I think we will have 3 spots locked up with solid players on bargain contracts in Beno, Kevin, and John. Then there is the potential for a lot of wiggle room elsewhere.

I have no problem resigning Beno. I just don't want to sign him to a long-term, full MLE deal. I think that is overpaying (based on what he has demonstrated so far). He can be a good piece for the future, but not a critical piece. And, frankly, his hideous assist to turnover ratio from last season is something this team does not need. Can he improve that? Possible. But you don't pay him a long term, full MLE deal based on a hope. If we get outbid for him this summer, all I will say is "good luck at your next stop"...we have other options.
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