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Re: uhhh....Kings at Grizzlies? 

Post#61 » by pillwenney » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:16 pm

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I think our biggest problem is the rebounding. We were out rebounded 33-46.
In the Spurs game we hit a big percentage of our shots in the first half but the Spurs kept things close with pressure and rebounding. We are trying the pressure but we are not rebounding, you cannot run on offense if you do not get rebounds. Basically we replaced Moore with BJax today and we got killed on the boards for it. I do not know why Theus doesn't like the big lineup. Thompson is as versatile as Garnett, Dirk, Duncan and can play 3-4-5. Why are we not letting them play together significant minutes? There are going to be nights when teams hit threes but you still win if you rebound, which was what happened in the last game against Memphis. Rebounding and controlling the paint are the keys to basketball. Just like in baseball pitching is the key, and football the lines on both sides of the ball are the keys. You just want to keep yourself in every game and give yourself a chance to win, but when you are outrebounded the way we were last night you have no chance to win. I am not going to get upset with a loss since we do need an upgrade at the point and there are a few 20pt/10ast PGs this year. So I am not sweating close youth losses but not being competitve is unacceptable.


To be fair, a lot of that is because we missed a lot more shots than they did, so there were a lot more rebounds avialable. The bigger problem is that we left them wide open everywhere and they hit pretty much ever wide open shot.
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Re: uhhh....Kings at Grizzlies? 

Post#62 » by KF10 » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:36 pm

tsherkin wrote:At least Jason Thompson looked good... 12/7 on the season so far. :D


Yep. He is one of our bright spots in this season. Averaging 12/7 is pretty good considering that we "reached" Thompson at #12.
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Re: uhhh....Kings at Grizzlies? 

Post#63 » by Cruel_Ruin » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:19 pm

tsherkin wrote:At least Jason Thompson looked good... 12/7 on the season so far. :D


Most of his production came in garbagetime. Not necessarily Thompson's fault, but this wasn't a good game from him. IMO, he needs to be much more involved on offense, because he and Hawes are our only post up threats.

cdt3 wrote:I think our biggest problem is the rebounding. We were out rebounded 33-46. In the Spurs game we hit a big percentage of our shots in the first half but the Spurs kept things close with pressure and rebounding. We are trying the pressure but we are not rebounding, you cannot run on offense if you do not get rebounds. Basically we replaced Moore with BJax today and we got killed on the boards for it. I do not know why Theus doesn't like the big lineup. Thompson is as versatile as Garnett, Dirk, Duncan and can play 3-4-5. Why are we not letting them play together significant minutes? There are going to be nights when teams hit threes but you still win if you rebound, which was what happened in the last game against Memphis. Rebounding and controlling the paint are the keys to basketball. Just like in baseball pitching is the key, and football the lines on both sides of the ball are the keys. You just want to keep yourself in every game and give yourself a chance to win, but when you are outrebounded the way we were last night you have no chance to win. I am not going to get upset with a loss since we do need an upgrade at the point and there are a few 20pt/10ast PGs this year. So I am not sweating close youth losses but not being competitve is unacceptable.


For the first time in a LONNG while, I think the Kings are a decent rebounding team. Most of that is because Thompson is now on the team, and he's a terrific rebounder. This game is an anomaly because the Grizzlies couldn't miss at all; they shot SIXTY PERCENT from three point line! Our rebounding is fine.

The main problem is the lack of a defensive scheme. The guys just aren't hustling to cover shooters. They are sagging off of their man because they don't trust the help defense behind them, and give up open shots. That's no way to play defense. This is the NBA, teams have hot shooting nights. You can't crowd the paint and pray that other teams miss. It's going to burn you eventually.
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Re: uhhh....Kings at Grizzlies? 

Post#64 » by SacKingZZZ » Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:34 am

mitchweber wrote:
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I don't know what it "sounded" like to you but that's certainly not what I said. I said no more running it 3-4 times in a row when it didn't work the first time. If you do that you start to make it really easy on the other team, especially when they're heated up. I'm not saying don't ever play a zone defense again for craps sake, just simply don't be as predictable with it.


Sorry if I misinterpreted it, but when you said you thought we'd be fine in man-to-man...well we clearly weren't tonight. That's what I was referring to.



Hey, anything other than what they're doing now has to be fine right? :wink:

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