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Re: The argument for 2009... 

Post#41 » by VeeJay24 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:11 pm

I think the Kings need to follow the Blazers model build with young guys. I look at Thompson & Hawes in the same way I look at Alridge/Oden. Let's develop these guys no need in bringing in an overpaid cut below superstar to take away the development and minutes of Thompson. The Kings just don't need it. If they sign anyone in the next couple years it should be a veteran who's forte is defense like Mitch said. Boozer would love to come here after the big clubs rate him low on their list besides I still can't forget the fact that he left the Cavs at the alter to go to Utah for money. Sure the Jazz are a good team now but I think the Cavs may have been able to reach a finals if Boozer hung around with Lebron.

Get that? Lebron, that's was Boozer needs to be more effective, he doesn't have that in Utah and sure won't have it in Sactown. The only player the Kings should sign at PF that would relegate Thompson to the bench is in college and his name is Blake Griffin!!!!! I'd take Blake Griffin and Stephon Curry all day long over Boozer. Now that's a no brainer!!!!!!! Can you say Bibby/Webber/Vlade = Curry/Griffin/Hawes? I can

So........Stop suggestions to sign wasteful FAs that the Kings don't need!!!!!

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Re: The argument for 2009... 

Post#42 » by Rugged Ron Ron » Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:58 pm

With DWill's contract extension kicking in. Will Jazz have enough cap to resign Boozer to a max deal without going over the cap?
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Re: The argument for 2009... 

Post#43 » by Smills91 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:24 pm

VeeJay24 wrote:I think the Kings need to follow the Blazers model build with young guys. I look at Thompson & Hawes in the same way I look at Alridge/Oden. Let's develop these guys no need in bringing in an overpaid cut below superstar to take away the development and minutes of Thompson. The Kings just don't need it. If they sign anyone in the next couple years it should be a veteran who's forte is defense like Mitch said. Boozer would love to come here after the big clubs rate him low on their list besides I still can't forget the fact that he left the Cavs at the alter to go to Utah for money. Sure the Jazz are a good team now but I think the Cavs may have been able to reach a finals if Boozer hung around with Lebron.

Get that? Lebron, that's was Boozer needs to be more effective, he doesn't have that in Utah and sure won't have it in Sactown. The only player the Kings should sign at PF that would relegate Thompson to the bench is in college and his name is Blake Griffin!!!!! I'd take Blake Griffin and Stephon Curry all day long over Boozer. Now that's a no brainer!!!!!!! Can you say Bibby/Webber/Vlade = Curry/Griffin/Hawes? I can

So........Stop suggestions to sign wasteful FAs that the Kings don't need!!!!!

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The thing is the Blazers and Kings situations are very different and the most apparent is that the Blazers have Mr. Deep pockets Paul Allen as owner who can afford to retain all those young players to massive extensions. The next is they were able to get Greg Oden. While I think Blake Griffin is a stud and definitely the best player in this next draft, I just don't see him being in Oden league in that regard.
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Re: The argument for 2009... 

Post#44 » by boffacheerios » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:50 pm

plus, realistically, do you eally think we could pick up griffin and Curry? Very possibly we could get curry wothout moving up, but i doubt that anyone would give up Griffin , and we are deffinately not a #1.
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Re: The argument for 2009... 

Post#45 » by Smills91 » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:00 am

boffacheerios wrote:plus, realistically, do you eally think we could pick up griffin and Curry? Very possibly we could get curry wothout moving up, but i doubt that anyone would give up Griffin , and we are deffinately not a #1.



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Re: The argument for 2009... 

Post#46 » by SacKingZZZ » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:17 am

Smills91 wrote:

The thing is the Blazers and Kings situations are very different and the most apparent is that the Blazers have Mr. Deep pockets Paul Allen as owner who can afford to retain all those young players to massive extensions. The next is they were able to get Greg Oden. While I think Blake Griffin is a stud and definitely the best player in this next draft, I just don't see him being in Oden league in that regard.


We'll see about that. Depth is a good thing but too much can be hazardous to your health. You already have guys like Spanish Chocolate griping about playing time, and then you have Bayless who can't even sniff the floor. When Webster comes back they are going to have the same kind of problems we're going to have when Martin, Garcia, and Moore come back.
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Re: The argument for 2009... 

Post#47 » by deNIEd » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:35 am

Smills91 wrote:The thing is the Blazers and Kings situations are very different and the most apparent is that the Blazers have Mr. Deep pockets Paul Allen as owner who can afford to retain all those young players to massive extensions. The next is they were able to get Greg Oden. While I think Blake Griffin is a stud and definitely the best player in this next draft, I just don't see him being in Oden league in that regard.


So, you think it's cheaper to sign players like Boozer instead of resigning young draft picks? It's always more expensive to sign a player coming from a brand new team, instead of resigning a player you currently have. The only reason players change teams now (pretty much), is either the original team didn't offer the player a contract or the new team pays more than the original team is willing to pay.
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Re: The argument for 2009... 

Post#48 » by VeeJay24 » Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:29 am

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VeeJay24 wrote:I think the Kings need to follow the Blazers model build with young guys. I look at Thompson & Hawes in the same way I look at Alridge/Oden. Let's develop these guys no need in bringing in an overpaid cut below superstar to take away the development and minutes of Thompson. The Kings just don't need it. If they sign anyone in the next couple years it should be a veteran who's forte is defense like Mitch said. Boozer would love to come here after the big clubs rate him low on their list besides I still can't forget the fact that he left the Cavs at the alter to go to Utah for money. Sure the Jazz are a good team now but I think the Cavs may have been able to reach a finals if Boozer hung around with Lebron.

Get that? Lebron, that's was Boozer needs to be more effective, he doesn't have that in Utah and sure won't have it in Sactown. The only player the Kings should sign at PF that would relegate Thompson to the bench is in college and his name is Blake Griffin!!!!! I'd take Blake Griffin and Stephon Curry all day long over Boozer. Now that's a no brainer!!!!!!! Can you say Bibby/Webber/Vlade = Curry/Griffin/Hawes? I can

So........Stop suggestions to sign wasteful FAs that the Kings don't need!!!!!



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The thing is the Blazers and Kings situations are very different and the most apparent is that the Blazers have Mr. Deep pockets Paul Allen as owner who can afford to retain all those young players to massive extensions. The next is they were able to get Greg Oden. While I think Blake Griffin is a stud and definitely the best player in this next draft, I just don't see him being in Oden league in that regard.


What you are saying is irrelevant? What does Allen's pockets have to do with anything? His pockets only come into the conversation when the Lux Tax is in question. Here it is not. Remember it is easier to retain your players in the NBA then to sign big FAs. So retaining your young guys wouldn't be a problem. And listen I am not saying that they will or have to draft Griffin, I am perfectly fine with Thompson which is the whole point why they don't need a player like Boozer who I think Thompson will definitely be better than in a few years. My comment was that Griffin would be the only player that Thompson should go to the bench for. Meaning, that if they are in a position to draft Griffin they shouldn't let the fact that Thompson is already here stop them from doing that. As far as getting both, it's a long basketball season, no one knows what is going to happen. It is not all that far-fetched! And if you don't think the Kings will be in the lottery it's wishful thinking.

As far as Griffin and Oden- first of all they play 2 different position but Griffin will be every bit as devasting at the PF position as Oden is at the C. All he has to do is play his rookie year to accomplish one thing over Oden and Griffin will avg. more pts than Oden hands down who doesn't have an offensive game to think of............
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Re: The argument for 2009... 

Post#49 » by sackings916 » Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:58 am

Does anyone think its possible we go after Hedo in 09 and start Hedo/Martin/Salmons together and have Hedo and Salmons split PG duties? Salmons can defend the opposing PG.

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Miller

would be a great offensive team, not so sure about defense and rebounding. Garcia/Thompson will help in that area off the bench.
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Re: The argument for 2009... 

Post#50 » by SacKingZZZ » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:06 am

Interesting idea, but I am not such a big fan of it. Hedo, Salmons, and Martin is too many wing types that need the ball, Hedo and John in particular. I maybe wouln't mind exchanging John for Hedo however. Still, I see someone else manning the 3 when it's all said and done.
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Re: The argument for 2009... 

Post#51 » by king125 » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:48 pm

first off, we are not gonna get a top 5 pick next year. we will be somewhere around 10th or so like always, unless we tank this year on purpose. our lineup is too good to be last in the nba.

second, lebron, dirk, bosh, etc. are not coming to sac. you guys all know this. so we have 2 choices. build around our youth and spend our money to keep our players in sac. or try and get some help in FA next year like boozer or hedo. but who is to say they would even come to sac either.

boozer would be good in many ways. a hawes/boozer/salmons/martin/beno lineup is better then a miller/moore/salmons/martin/beno lineup for sure. we would be way better. when we run the floor in the fast break offense it is usually with kmart/salmons/beno anways so having boozer would not slow us down. our problem offensivly is the half court offense which would improve with boozer. it would be nice to able to play both styles of basketball. plus the fast break starts with rebounding and booz is a killer rebounder. also spencer is only 20 and is in the top 10 in block shots a game while coming off the bench and playing less then starter minutes. give him another year or 2 and watch the hell out.

we need to keep salmons. he is a GREAT defensive player like doug christie who can also score. no way should we move him. no way. plus he would be a great option in scoring behind martin and boozer. damn that would be an awesome offense boozer/martin/salmons.

dont count out beno yet either. this is his first year as a starter and he is showing flashes of brilliance. he is a little inconsistent but he is still young and developing. he is agressive which is great and soon as he can control himslef a little better he is gonna be a great PG in this league. maybe not a chris paul, jason kidd, or steve nash, but how many championships have those guys won? he could be just as good as fischer or rondo who were in the finals last year. give him the rest of the year and next year and watch. you will see.

miller needs to go. he is a great player but will not help us get into the playoffs or win a title. he is one of my favorite players on the kings but he helps in no way. he is a great passer but does not help our rebounding or defense at all. plus he is way inconsistent. i love that he is doing good enough right now to use as trade bait. move him this year by the deadline for expirings.

with this lineup hawes/boozer/salmons/martin/beno and thompson/garcia/brown off the bench we could make the playoffs in 2009. not win a championship, but be in the playoffs. the team would still be young and developing but it would be ready to take the next step. then we need to pray that hawes and martin (our future superstars) develop into elite players and take us to a possible championship in 2011 and beyond.

that is my opnion. but what do i know????
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Re: The argument for 2009... 

Post#52 » by SacKingZZZ » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:58 pm

king125 wrote:first off, we are not gonna get a top 5 pick next year. we will be somewhere around 10th or so like always, unless we tank this year on purpose. our lineup is too good to be last in the nba.

second, lebron, dirk, bosh, etc. are not coming to sac. you guys all know this. so we have 2 choices. build around our youth and spend our money to keep our players in sac. or try and get some help in FA next year like boozer or hedo. but who is to say they would even come to sac either.

boozer would be good in many ways. a hawes/boozer/salmons/martin/beno lineup is better then a miller/moore/salmons/martin/beno lineup for sure. we would be way better. when we run the floor in the fast break offense it is usually with kmart/salmons/beno anways so having boozer would not slow us down. our problem offensivly is the half court offense which would improve with boozer. it would be nice to able to play both styles of basketball. plus the fast break starts with rebounding and booz is a killer rebounder. also spencer is only 20 and is in the top 10 in block shots a game while coming off the bench and playing less then starter minutes. give him another year or 2 and watch the hell out.

we need to keep salmons. he is a GREAT defensive player like doug christie who can also score. no way should we move him. no way. plus he would be a great option in scoring behind martin and boozer. damn that would be an awesome offense boozer/martin/salmons.

dont count out beno yet either. this is his first year as a starter and he is showing flashes of brilliance. he is a little inconsistent but he is still young and developing. he is agressive which is great and soon as he can control himslef a little better he is gonna be a great PG in this league. maybe not a chris paul, jason kidd, or steve nash, but how many championships have those guys won? he could be just as good as fischer or rondo who were in the finals last year. give him the rest of the year and next year and watch. you will see.

miller needs to go. he is a great player but will not help us get into the playoffs or win a title. he is one of my favorite players on the kings but he helps in no way. he is a great passer but does not help our rebounding or defense at all. plus he is way inconsistent. i love that he is doing good enough right now to use as trade bait. move him this year by the deadline for expirings.

with this lineup hawes/boozer/salmons/martin/beno and thompson/garcia/brown off the bench we could make the playoffs in 2009. not win a championship, but be in the playoffs. the team would still be young and developing but it would be ready to take the next step. then we need to pray that hawes and martin (our future superstars) develop into elite players and take us to a possible championship in 2011 and beyond.

that is my opnion. but what do i know????


If the teams that are struggling right now, like the Clipps, improve then we should be snuggled right into that 5-8 spot. Even though it's looking shaky for some teams, I think there are still too many teams that made moves to improve now to keep us at around 35-40 wins.

The fact is this draft will probably be like the last 2. There will be 1 or 2 guys ahead of the others (not in an Oden/Durant way) and from there on out it should be about 10-12 deep in really solid prospects.

I agree that our cap space will probably end up being used to keep our own draftees, but there is also the chance that the cap space combined with a young talent or 2 can be traded for a "star" level player on a team looking to start over.

As for John, I love what he's doing but at the end of the day I think the best thing we can get out of him is value through a trade. I think his value by the deadline might be pretty high and he can easily be the starting 2 or 3 on a team looking to get better for a playoff run. I still don't think he'll fit on this team long term. As a 3 he is a little bit on the low side in rebounding and is most effective with the ball. I said before the season that he might fit on this team in the same way Artest did and so far I think I was right. Moving forward we need a spot shooter, or someone that is more accustomed to getting his shot off quickly as opposed to slashing so much (Garcia? Greene? Draft pick?). John is one of the better below the rim finishers I've seen but I don't think a slasher is what we need next to Kevin Martin or for the offense this team should be running.

Another question I am surprised hasn't been brought up, as it usually is when a player plays well filling in for another, is maybe we should trade Kevin Martin and keep John at the SG? It's an idea. One that I am not for, but it most certainly could be an option.
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Re: The argument for 2009... 

Post#53 » by Smills91 » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:29 am

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king125 wrote:first off, we are not gonna get a top 5 pick next year. we will be somewhere around 10th or so like always, unless we tank this year on purpose. our lineup is too good to be last in the nba.

second, lebron, dirk, bosh, etc. are not coming to sac. you guys all know this. so we have 2 choices. build around our youth and spend our money to keep our players in sac. or try and get some help in FA next year like boozer or hedo. but who is to say they would even come to sac either.

boozer would be good in many ways. a hawes/boozer/salmons/martin/beno lineup is better then a miller/moore/salmons/martin/beno lineup for sure. we would be way better. when we run the floor in the fast break offense it is usually with kmart/salmons/beno anways so having boozer would not slow us down. our problem offensivly is the half court offense which would improve with boozer. it would be nice to able to play both styles of basketball. plus the fast break starts with rebounding and booz is a killer rebounder. also spencer is only 20 and is in the top 10 in block shots a game while coming off the bench and playing less then starter minutes. give him another year or 2 and watch the hell out.

we need to keep salmons. he is a GREAT defensive player like doug christie who can also score. no way should we move him. no way. plus he would be a great option in scoring behind martin and boozer. damn that would be an awesome offense boozer/martin/salmons.

dont count out beno yet either. this is his first year as a starter and he is showing flashes of brilliance. he is a little inconsistent but he is still young and developing. he is agressive which is great and soon as he can control himslef a little better he is gonna be a great PG in this league. maybe not a chris paul, jason kidd, or steve nash, but how many championships have those guys won? he could be just as good as fischer or rondo who were in the finals last year. give him the rest of the year and next year and watch. you will see.

miller needs to go. he is a great player but will not help us get into the playoffs or win a title. he is one of my favorite players on the kings but he helps in no way. he is a great passer but does not help our rebounding or defense at all. plus he is way inconsistent. i love that he is doing good enough right now to use as trade bait. move him this year by the deadline for expirings.

with this lineup hawes/boozer/salmons/martin/beno and thompson/garcia/brown off the bench we could make the playoffs in 2009. not win a championship, but be in the playoffs. the team would still be young and developing but it would be ready to take the next step. then we need to pray that hawes and martin (our future superstars) develop into elite players and take us to a possible championship in 2011 and beyond.

that is my opnion. but what do i know????


If the teams that are struggling right now, like the Clipps, improve then we should be snuggled right into that 5-8 spot. Even though it's looking shaky for some teams, I think there are still too many teams that made moves to improve now to keep us at around 35-40 wins.

The fact is this draft will probably be like the last 2. There will be 1 or 2 guys ahead of the others (not in an Oden/Durant way) and from there on out it should be about 10-12 deep in really solid prospects.

I agree that our cap space will probably end up being used to keep our own draftees, but there is also the chance that the cap space combined with a young talent or 2 can be traded for a "star" level player on a team looking to start over.

As for John, I love what he's doing but at the end of the day I think the best thing we can get out of him is value through a trade. I think his value by the deadline might be pretty high and he can easily be the starting 2 or 3 on a team looking to get better for a playoff run. I still don't think he'll fit on this team long term. As a 3 he is a little bit on the low side in rebounding and is most effective with the ball. I said before the season that he might fit on this team in the same way Artest did and so far I think I was right. Moving forward we need a spot shooter, or someone that is more accustomed to getting his shot off quickly as opposed to slashing so much (Garcia? Greene? Draft pick?). John is one of the better below the rim finishers I've seen but I don't think a slasher is what we need next to Kevin Martin or for the offense this team should be running.

Another question I am surprised hasn't been brought up, as it usually is when a player plays well filling in for another, is maybe we should trade Kevin Martin and keep John at the SG? It's an idea. One that I am not for, but it most certainly could be an option.


As much as I enjoy Kevin Martin the basketball player and person on the Kings, you ABSOLUTELY consider trading him if it brings you a clear cut #1 option. I was for dealing him for Gasol, and I'd be willing to deal him for a Bosh/LeBron/Wade type level player(even if it cost us Thompson and/or a pick). You just HAVE to do that at the end of the day. However, the ONLY way a clear cut, bona fide #1 option becomes available is if they FORCE their way out, in which case, they tend to come at a discount. Which brings up the fact that the Kings could be MAJOR players at a disgruntled superstar over the next 1.5 years as they have 30+ million in expirings in the MAJOR FA year of 2010 PLUS a lot of cheap and valuable assets to couple with those expirings to make a play via trade as well. Hawes/Thompson/2009 1st/2010 1st/even Greene maybe could all be considered valuable to another team.

Hell if Kwame Damn Brown/Critt/1st can land Gasol, then our package of Miller/Thomas/Greene/1st could potentially land a player somewhat NEAR Gasol's level if that team is really motivated by cap savings and has that said player locked up long term. That honestly seems like it could be the most likely manner to obtain a #1 option. That or Hawes and/or Thompson develop at a Kevin Martin like level and speed.
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Re: The argument for 2009... 

Post#54 » by n_a_h_t_a_n » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:20 am

king125 wrote:first off, we are not gonna get a top 5 pick next year. we will be somewhere around 10th or so like always, unless we tank this year on purpose. our lineup is too good to be last in the nba.

second, lebron, dirk, bosh, etc. are not coming to sac. you guys all know this. so we have 2 choices. build around our youth and spend our money to keep our players in sac. or try and get some help in FA next year like boozer or hedo. but who is to say they would even come to sac either.

boozer would be good in many ways. a hawes/boozer/salmons/martin/beno lineup is better then a miller/moore/salmons/martin/beno lineup for sure. we would be way better. when we run the floor in the fast break offense it is usually with kmart/salmons/beno anways so having boozer would not slow us down. our problem offensivly is the half court offense which would improve with boozer. it would be nice to able to play both styles of basketball. plus the fast break starts with rebounding and booz is a killer rebounder. also spencer is only 20 and is in the top 10 in block shots a game while coming off the bench and playing less then starter minutes. give him another year or 2 and watch the hell out.

we need to keep salmons. he is a GREAT defensive player like doug christie who can also score. no way should we move him. no way. plus he would be a great option in scoring behind martin and boozer. damn that would be an awesome offense boozer/martin/salmons.
dont count out beno yet either. this is his first year as a starter and he is showing flashes of brilliance. he is a little inconsistent but he is still young and developing. he is agressive which is great and soon as he can control himslef a little better he is gonna be a great PG in this league. maybe not a chris paul, jason kidd, or steve nash, but how many championships have those guys won? he could be just as good as fischer or rondo who were in the finals last year. give him the rest of the year and next year and watch. you will see.

miller needs to go. he is a great player but will not help us get into the playoffs or win a title. he is one of my favorite players on the kings but he helps in no way. he is a great passer but does not help our rebounding or defense at all. plus he is way inconsistent. i love that he is doing good enough right now to use as trade bait. move him this year by the deadline for expirings.

with this lineup hawes/boozer/salmons/martin/beno and thompson/garcia/brown off the bench we could make the playoffs in 2009. not win a championship, but be in the playoffs. the team would still be young and developing but it would be ready to take the next step. then we need to pray that hawes and martin (our future superstars) develop into elite players and take us to a possible championship in 2011 and beyond.

that is my opnion. but what do i know????


were currently 7th and should slip down when agent 0 gets back from the wix and the clipps should improve to. then again the kings should when Martin and Garcia get back

Id like to see the Kings get Al Farouq he's a Nigerian King apperently. But athletic as all hell. I think he will declaree but should definatly stay. In time he devolop into a pretty good defender who can guard the 1-4 (more effectivly the 2+3) Not going to be a big time scorer but we dont need that at the wings with Martin and down the road he can defend the better offensive player eg againts the spurs he would follow Manu and Martin would sit in the corner next to Bowen. pretty good rebounder to but needs to improve from deep and has shown flashes off being a good assist man.

No way to Salmons. While i like hes defence and think hes a pretty talented play hes a black hole he needs the ball to be effective which is ok if your a superstar but john salmons is john salmons plus hes a career loser. Has he even made it to the post season? we want players who can win. at the deadline or even draft night he will be valuble trade him and houstons pick which is currently 19th for somewhere around pick 10. A team like golden State would be perfect for him.

Maybe keep Beno but not as the starter. Id prefer Bobby Brown anyway he can score and provide energy way way better then Beno.

You mention that rondo and fisher have won more titiles then Paul Deron Nash and Kidd thats a good point but when you have Kobe/Shaq/Phil Jackson and KG/Pierce/Ray leading the show is pretty handy. Both Rondo and Fish are great defenders and can actually keep a few players out of the lane unlike Beno

I also think keep Miller at least beyond this year. No other center anywhere can pass and set up an offence like him. Not to mention few could beat him in a competition of setting screens which is underrated) if the was one and just his ability to shot from outside means tho others team opposing centre doesnt want to rotate to help out the driving Martin or Beno ect... The the things he needs to be teaching to our young superstars Spencer and Thompson and i hope quick so we dont have to see how horrible he is at everything elce
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Re: The argument for 2009... 

Post#55 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:03 am

n_a_h_t_a_n wrote:were currently 7th and should slip down when agent 0 gets back from the wix and the clipps should improve to. then again the kings should when Martin and Garcia get back

Id like to see the Kings get Al Farouq he's a Nigerian King apperently. But athletic as all hell. I think he will declaree but should definatly stay. In time he devolop into a pretty good defender who can guard the 1-4 (more effectivly the 2+3) Not going to be a big time scorer but we dont need that at the wings with Martin and down the road he can defend the better offensive player eg againts the spurs he would follow Manu and Martin would sit in the corner next to Bowen. pretty good rebounder to but needs to improve from deep and has shown flashes off being a good assist man.

No way to Salmons. While i like hes defence and think hes a pretty talented play hes a black hole he needs the ball to be effective which is ok if your a superstar but john salmons is john salmons plus hes a career loser. Has he even made it to the post season? we want players who can win. at the deadline or even draft night he will be valuble trade him and houstons pick which is currently 19th for somewhere around pick 10. A team like golden State would be perfect for him.

Maybe keep Beno but not as the starter. Id prefer Bobby Brown anyway he can score and provide energy way way better then Beno.

You mention that rondo and fisher have won more titiles then Paul Deron Nash and Kidd thats a good point but when you have Kobe/Shaq/Phil Jackson and KG/Pierce/Ray leading the show is pretty handy. Both Rondo and Fish are great defenders and can actually keep a few players out of the lane unlike Beno

I also think keep Miller at least beyond this year. No other center anywhere can pass and set up an offence like him. Not to mention few could beat him in a competition of setting screens which is underrated) if the was one and just his ability to shot from outside means tho others team opposing centre doesnt want to rotate to help out the driving Martin or Beno ect... The the things he needs to be teaching to our young superstars Spencer and Thompson and i hope quick so we dont have to see how horrible he is at everything elce


I am very interested in Aminu. So far I'd like to see more perimeter skills from him but one advantage he may have in the eyes of NBA scouts is that he is playing SF in college. Usually a top prospect SF is playing PF in college. Aminu can play PF I think as well, on both levels.

Two guys I'm interested in the most are Austin Daye and Greg Monroe. I don't know if Daye is a full time 3 though, he might not be quick enough but he has all the other tools. He is a solid shooter all the way out to the 3 point line, can handle, and makes Tayshaun Prince look short and stubby. He blocks, rebounds, and even has a nice post game. He needs to get stronger but I see him as a NIGHTMARE mismatch at the 4, and maybe even at the 3 as well. Defensively he might have some problems at the 3 (although what I'm seeing might just be his knee not completely healthy yet) but his length should give him an advantage.

As for Monroe, I was disappointed when I initially saw him, but in looking closer this guy could be as legit as his hype a few years ago. He is way more high IQ than I thought and he looks to be a guy that could run the high post system as he is at Georgetown now. He needs a jumper but while he hasn't jumped off the page in too many ways yet he is already looking pretty solid. He also has the makings of a Dwight Howard-esque physique. He is certainly one to watch for.

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