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Re: Soo....Kings at Jazz 

Post#21 » by RIPskaterdude » Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:19 am

jazzfan1971 wrote:Oh, and Theus should have called like 5 more time outs to fits of frothing screaming. I was unimpressed with his lack of fire.


Theus is a terrible leader and seems to leave people with that "unimpressed feeling" quite a bit.
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Post#22 » by KF10 » Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:22 am

jazzfan1971 wrote:I was real impressed with Hawes. I don't know if he plays like that every night or not, but, if he's got those kinds of moves and touch, you got yourselves a nice center.


Yeah, he has an ARRAY of offensive moves. Sometimes you forget he is only 20 years old and he is barely scratching the surface of his potential. When he came out of the draft (19 years old) he was the most offensive advanced freshman center in the last 20 years. We all know he can be a beast in offense in the near future. But the thing he showed this year is that his defense has really improved. He is like 2nd in the league in block totals. Even though, he did not have blocks in this game, he is a blocking machine currently. So, Hawes is playing offense/defense really well.
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Post#23 » by RIPskaterdude » Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:46 am

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jazzfan1971 wrote:I was real impressed with Hawes. I don't know if he plays like that every night or not, but, if he's got those kinds of moves and touch, you got yourselves a nice center.


Yeah, he has an ARRAY of offensive moves. Sometimes you forget he is only 20 years old and he is barely scratching the surface of his potential. When he came out of the draft (19 years old) he was the most offensive advanced freshman center in the last 20 years. We all know he can be a beast in offense in the near future. But the thing he showed this year is that his defense has really improved. He is like 2nd in the league in block totals. Even though, he did not have blocks in this game, he is a blocking machine currently. So, Hawes is playing offense/defense really well.


Too bad he can barely play 20+ minutes a game now.
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Post#24 » by KM44 » Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:51 am

I watched this one 50/50, and I missed the entire third and most of the 4th, so I thought they played very well. Haha, but I was veeery upset by the defense. They don't know how to be physical without fouling, so they just let guys go by until they can foul again, it's pathetic. No one has mentioned this much, but Garcia came back... I would prefer not to talk about it, but he did not play well at all. I was expecting Jesus the way smills talks about him. Hopefully it's just first game coming back syndrome.

As for Theus, just leave him alone. He gives the young guys plenty of time, and he's just doing what he thinks is right, You have to realize that he is the NBA head coach, no us.
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Post#25 » by RIPskaterdude » Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:51 am

^^ And you have to realize that we (the fans) help pay for his (Theus) job, through ticket sales, parking, merch, etc etc. So we have just as much as say in this matter as he does. And besides, just because he is doing what he thinks is right, doesn't mean it's the correct path to rebuilding a franchise into a winning team (or even winning right now).

When a team isn't coming together, unfortunately someone has to be the fallman, and 95% of the time, it's the coach. Our season has been over since K-Mart went out with an injury, and he should have NEVER replaced Thompson with Moore in the starting lineup when Moore came back from his injury.
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Post#26 » by pillwenney » Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:16 pm

xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:So we should keep playing our useless vets, keep losing AND not develope the future of the team because...we want to keep their trade value higher? I don't think Miller or Moore will get more than expirings (+ draft pick/prospect for Miller) anyways. Personally, I say we trade Miller ASAP for shorter deal/expiring/1st and keep Moore, but have him come off the bench for 15 minutes a game.



We have a rookie that is still averaging 26 MPG and a 20-year-old sophomore that's averaging 29MPG. Let's wait for there to become a pattern before we freak the hell out. Playing time doesn't always=great development. I firmly believe Jason will get the starting job this year, regardless of whether or not we move Mikki. But he'll have to work for it, not because he isn't already arguably better than Mikki, but because making him work for it will make him a better player.

Also, there isn't necessarily a deal out there right now for Brad that's like that. I'm not saying that there won't be, but people need to stop just assuming that we have a deal like that in our back pocket, and we're just sleeping on it right now.

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Too bad he can barely play 20+ minutes a game now.


Yeah, you know that has totally been the pattern for one game.
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Post#28 » by Wolfay » Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:57 pm

Of course we were a better team with Ron, but he "stole playing time from the young guys" and he was "an offensive liability".
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Post#29 » by SacKingZZZ » Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:00 am

Wolfay wrote:Of course we were a better team with Ron, but he "stole playing time from the young guys" and he was "an offensive liability".



Oh, I wouldn't worry too much about it. I'm sure we'll find somebody else to jack up 15-20 completely out of rhythm jumpers as a response.
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Post#30 » by pillwenney » Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:25 am

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Wolfay wrote:Of course we were a better team with Ron, but he "stole playing time from the young guys" and he was "an offensive liability".



Oh, I wouldn't worry too much about it. I'm sure we'll find somebody else to jack up 15-20 completely out of rhythm jumpers as a response.


15-20? Yeah, maybe every 8-10 games.

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